[LeaderBiz]

Pakistan really really needs Islamic Revolution before its too late --- wine and whisky is becoming common drink in many cities -- specially in villages it is in much more use than even cold drinks

music is becoming common and when i tell someone to not to listen to songs I get mocked

boyfriend - girlfriend relationships are becoming common and no one thinks it as sin - specially because of free mobile packages bf-gf talk with each other till late night

homosexuality is increasing very very much

porn is viewed much more than anything

in education system there should be seperation among boys and girls -

zina is increasing very very much - it is increasing at unbeleivable rate

many are leaving Islam -

Violence is increasing -- every day 5-10 people and many more are killed due to politics related hatred

in short - all things prohibited in Islam are increasing day by day in Pakistan

[YTmWSOA5]

Everything is timed to happen, just wait for the right time.

Within 10-15 years there would be an Islamic Revolution from West.

[Ad0i89Od]

Salam 'Aleykum,

I'd support any Islamic revolution in Pakistan, why would anyone want to be ruled by Kouffar?

[mikeyyuiok]

Revolutions are for people who can't do things the hard way. Would replacing the ruler bring change ? Ofcourse not as there is nothing in the current Pakistan system of governance that prevents a good Muslim to get elected. What's wrong then is somewhere else.

[Mister.levitra]

Assalam alikum wa rahmat Allah,

Revolution is for making changes in political system. politycal system is not the most important part of islamic society.hearts of men are. revolution is not advised in Islam. It is neither rejected if it happens by its natural course.by historically, it is a struggle for better earthly life. call it for your stomatch and below. The way of the prophet SAS is to lift your sleves and do work of dawah. painstaking individual work one ny one call people to Allah and oppose the ways of devil in every way.vigilant momeens. that is how you learn to be patient, rahim, karim, dignified, and man of Allah. the troubles outside of you is to improve your inside not the other way around. After all, at the time of death Allah swt will only look at your heart not social role that you played

[WaydayNef]

You are highly exaggerating, 90% of other muslim countries are much worse than pakistan when it comes to BF/GF relationships, zina, homosexuality, whiskey.


Revolutions only come when there is a leader to guide the people, sorry but there are none right now in pakistan, we need an intellect like Iqbal.

[LeaderBiz]

You are highly exaggerating, 90% of other muslim countries are much worse than pakistan when it comes to BF/GF relationships, zina, homosexuality, whiskey.


Revolutions only come when there is a leader to guide the people, sorry but there are none right now in pakistan, we need an intellect like Iqbal.

no i am not exaggerating - come into rural areas and look at the state of people there - yes there are good people also - but homo sexuality - zina - phone sex - whiskey - its increasing day by day trust me i have seen with my own eyes -- if this is not put into stop then condition of Pakistan will be even more worse afterwards

what should we do then ?? how to put stop all these acitivities ?? my dawah is of no use - no one listens to me if i tell them to stop something bad like whiskey - homosexuality --- what i meant by islamic revolution is that -- all these activities - whiskey - homosexuality - zina should be put to stop - and there should be penalty for anyone involved in such activities --

[LeaderBiz]

Salam 'Aleykum,

I'd support any Islamic revolution in Pakistan, why would anyone want to be ruled by Kouffar?

no actually Pakistan is ruled by a Muslim government. but what i meant by revolution is that -- such a system should be introduced that everything in Pakistan should be according with teachings of Islam - there should be complete full stop to activities like Drinking alcohol - homosexuality - zina - violence ---

[LeaderBiz]

The problem with such solutions is that are only duscussed on Internet forums by people who don't have the means (correct if I'm wrong) to bring about a revolution anywhere and it adds to the number of threads already on Sunni Forum about revolution in Pakistan.

hmm you are right i have no means to bring revolution - but my soul cries when ( specially in rural areas ) unislamic activities like drinking whiskey - homosexuality - zina is being practised openly and no one is getting punished what should i do then just watch ?

[swissloveone]

Revolutions only come when there is a leader to guide the people... Very true and also
The people get the leader that reflects their actions

[Gremlinn]

Assalam alikum wa rahmat Allah,

Revolution is for making changes in political system. politycal system is not the most important part of islamic society.hearts of men are. revolution is not advised in Islam. It is neither rejected if it happens by its natural course.by historically, it is a struggle for better earthly life. call it for your stomatch and below. The way of the prophet SAS is to lift your sleves and do work of dawah. painstaking individual work one ny one call people to Allah and oppose the ways of devil in every way.vigilant momeens. that is how you learn to be patient, rahim, karim, dignified, and man of Allah. the troubles outside of you is to improve your inside not the other way around. After all, at the time of death Allah swt will only look at your heart not social role that you played

Asalam o Alaikum. But creating a society and an envrionment where people can practice Islam properly is also necessary. You are in a manner agreeing to the ideology of Ghamidi that Islam is concerned with personal matters only and it is a mazhab instead of a deen. So we need to better our innerselves only where as one must remember that the outside world does influence us in one way or the other to a smaller or greater extent according to our capacity and determination to resist. So in order to create a better environment for all, we need to establish khilafah. Otherwise Prophet Muhammad SAW and his companions RA would have remained in Makkah, getting lashed and being harmed by the Makkans and wouldn't have to establish the first Islamic state in Madina.

[WeestDype]

no actually Pakistan is ruled by a Muslim government. but what i meant by revolution is that -- such a system should be introduced that everything in Pakistan should be according with teachings of Islam - there should be complete full stop to activities like Drinking alcohol - homosexuality - zina - violence ---

Salaam

Actually, the government is murtad and is being fought, mostly in tribal regions such as Waziristan i.e. the revolution has already begun

[fgfblog]

I completely agree.
Pakistan really does need to improve in regards to Islam. Not only that, giving/accepting bribery is also common for authorities (police officers, politicians etc...).

[911_993_911]

Definitely, as Pakistan is the only country came into being in the name of Islam.
Unfortunately, still we are discussing and arguing about the vision of its founders whetther it should be islamic state or not.
At start, ulema from different schools of thought collectively proposed a 22 point agenda for constitution building but due to secular and modernest and foreign pressure, it couldn't be implemented.

Now, different Islamic organisations (mostly jihadis) gather on a platform of Difa e Pakistan council.
http://www.difaepakistan.com/

Challanges we are facing here are of modernists, puppit government and army, so called scholars promoted in media(e.g Javed Ghamdi), sectarian extremism. So every step must be taken carefully.

[Ettiominiw]

Man i really need to go there now!!!

[ZZChristopher]

Asalam o Alaikum. But creating a society and an envrionment where people can practice Islam properly is also necessary. You are in a manner agreeing to the ideology of Ghamidi that Islam is concerned with personal matters only and it is a mazhab instead of a deen. So we need to better our innerselves only where as one must remember that the outside world does influence us in one way or the other to a smaller or greater extent according to our capacity and determination to resist. So in order to create a better environment for all, we need to establish khilafah. Otherwise Prophet Muhammad SAW and his companions RA would have remained in Makkah, getting lashed and being harmed by the Makkans and wouldn't have to establish the first Islamic state in Madina.

Assalam alikum wa rahmat Allah

society is formed when people gather.smart moomin do not waste their time for organizing or changing the society worry about its ambiance hence do dawah. changing it though, is work for dunkys let them get excited about it. Also there is a fundamental difference between the role of prophet SAS and us. his (SAS) Allah given role was to establish Islam. Ours on the other hand to practice it. so we are responsible for the ambiance. to make it Islamic . and the devil would like to make it unislamic. we do not need revolution for that. a Mommeens duty is to be concerned mostly with Akhirah. In front of Allah swt you will not be asked about the democracy or equal distribution of wealth. rather good character, patience, good aamal etc.

[Brutton]

The only solution is T...L...B...N.

[Gremlinn]

Assalam alikum wa rahmat Allah

society is formed when people gather.smart moomin do not waste their time for organizing or changing the society worry about its ambiance hence do dawah. changing it though, is work for dunkys let them get excited about it. Also there is a fundamental difference between the role of prophet SAS and us. his (SAS) Allah given role was to establish Islam. Ours on the other hand to practice it. so we are responsible for the ambiance. to make it Islamic . and the devil would like to make it unislamic. we do not need revolution for that. a Mommeens duty is to be concerned mostly with Akhirah. In front of Allah swt you will not be asked about the democracy or equal distribution of wealth. rather good character, patience, good aamal etc.

Asalam o Alaikum, Sir you mean to say that The institution of Zakaat, Baitul Maal, Ameer ul Momineen, Army of Mujahideen, Islamic rules of governance , all of this is not the part of Islam and Islam is concerned with personal life only. If your neighbour is being harrassed by the police, and as a result he is unable to perform salaat with Jamaat, do you think that Allah will spare you in the end for not doing anything to resist the oppression. Do you forget the hadith which says (explanation) that greatest Jihad is to stand against a tyrant ruler? Dawah is necessary but setting up a model of true Islamic society is also necessary.

[Brutton]

Asalam o Alaikum, Sir you mean to say that The institution of Zakaat, Baitul Maal, Ameer ul Momineen, Army of Mujahideen, Islamic rules of governance , all of this is not the part of Islam and Islam is concerned with personal life only. If your neighbour is being harrassed by the police, and as a result he is unable to perform salaat with Jamaat, do you think that Allah will spare you in the end for not doing anything to resist the oppression. Do you forget the hadith which says (explanation) that greatest Jihad is to stand against a tyrant ruler? Dawah is necessary but setting up a model of true Islamic society is also necessary.

Brother, leave him. He is very happy with his Kuffar American rulers who are striving to erase the name of Islam from the world. I'm sure that he will bring more evidences to refute you. Don't argue with a fool.

[furillo]

Lets see..Pakistan is such a beautiful yet we have Tehreek e Taliban there who is destroying the country, killing the people and partaking in sinful activities. If there should be any revolution, it should be against this group