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Old 04-29-2012, 04:49 AM   #1
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Salaams,

I was reading a Wikipedia article about Is-haaq (as) or Isaac and Ismaeel (as) or Ishmael, from what I read, Christians believe that Is-haaq (as) was the one who was nearly slaughtered as per the command of God. But as far as I know it was actually Ismaeel (as) who was nearly sacrificed by Ibraheem (as). What is going on there? I am a student of Islam so excuse my errors and lack of knowledge.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:52 AM   #2
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Christians and Jews believe it was Isaac (Ishaaq) as they try to legitimize Jews, as they are descendents of Ishaaq , whereas it was Ishmael (Isma'eel) who was actually going to be slaughtered, not Ishaaq . Isma'eel was the first born - upon this, everyone agrees. So, why would Allah tell Ibraheem to just slaughter Ishaaq and not even bother with Isma'eel ?
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:01 AM   #3
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http://www.answering-christianity.co...nd_ishmael.htm

I think some modern Bible scholars admit that an honest reading of the Bible shows that Ishmael was to be sacrificed and not Isaac.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:19 AM   #4
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http://www.answering-christianity.co...nd_ishmael.htm

I think some modern Bible scholars admit that an honest reading of the Bible shows that Ishmael was to be sacrificed and not Isaac.
Jazakallah for the link. Very helpful.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:37 PM   #5
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Jazakallah for the link. Very helpful.
bro. Also stay away from wikipedia, lots of mistakes and misinformation in there. If you want to know about any topic or need any books just post here on the forums, you will get directions

Ps. A small detail on Ibrahim (as) and his sons: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post705710

I ll post the relevant parts here:

. Prophet Ibrahim (as) had 13 children. First of them was Ismail (as) who was born when Ibrahim (as) was old. It was Allah's miracle that He was able to bear children in such old age. The most famous of The children were Ismail (as), Ishaaq (as) and Madhian.

From the descendants of Ismail (as) there is only one Prophet, Prophet Muhammad , The progeny of Ismail(as) are the Arabs, thats why he is also known as Abul Arabi. From Madhian there was only one Prophet, Prophet Shuaib (as). Ishaq (as) was the ancestor of Bani Israel. There were numerous Prophets in his descendants.

It was Ismail (as) that Allah commanded Ibrahim (as) to slaughter in the dream. And we know how the Qurbani was the sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim (as). However the Jews argue it was Ishaaq(as) that was commanded to be slaughtered. But in the Torah itself its mentioned that Allah commanded to slaughter the 'only son'. Only time that Ibrahim (as) had a single son was during the time of Ismail (as), when Ishaaq (as) was born Ismail (as) had already grown.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:51 PM   #6
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wa rahmatullah,

Some said it was Isma'eel (). This was the opinion of Ibn 'Umar, Abu Hurayra, Al Hassan Al Basri, Mujahid, Sa'id Ibn Mussayib, Ar Rabi' ibn Anas, Muhammad ibn Ka'b Al-Qurazi, al Kalbi.

Others said it was Ishaaq (). This was the opinion of Ibn Mas'ud, Qataada, Masrooq, 'Ikrima, 'Ataa, Muqaatil, az Zuhri (tafseer ibn Katheer).
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:08 PM   #7
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Salaams,

So does that mean that even within Islamic scholarship there is ikhtilaaf regarding this issue. What is the stance of Ahlus Sunna on this issue?

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Old 04-29-2012, 11:11 PM   #8
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Salaams,

So does that mean that even within Islamic scholarship there is ikhtilaaf regarding this issue. What is the stance of Ahlus Sunna on this issue?

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Yes there seems to be ikhtilaaf in this matter.

Allahu alam.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:13 PM   #9
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Salaams,

So does that mean that even within Islamic scholarship there is ikhtilaaf regarding this issue. What is the stance of Ahlus Sunna on this issue?

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Yes, there have always been both views.
I'll see if I can post something from a tafseer tomorrow,
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:55 AM   #10
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It was Ismail.

Here's proof: http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur...sacrifice.html
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