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Old 04-28-2012, 01:58 AM   #1
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Default Brelwi Pir asks followers to swear at Wahhabis during Tawaaf of Kaabah
One of the leaders of the brelwis is the UK asks his followers to swear at the Wahabbis during tawaaf if onedoesent know any othe masnoon duas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSYFzv0FBNU

Allah SWT save us from such fitnah.. ameen
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:05 AM   #2
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And he calls the wahhabi's the enemies of the Messenger I don't agree with wahhabi's on certain issues but saying they are the enemies of the Messenger is going a bit too far I reckon. They are Muslims after all and the Muslims are meant to love one another

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Old 04-28-2012, 04:16 AM   #3
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Salam 'Aleykum,

عن ابن مسعود رضي الله عنه قال قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم : [ ليس المؤمن بالطعان ولا اللعان ولا الفاحش ولا البذي ] رواه الترمذي وقال حديث حسن 1734. Ibn Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said, "A true believer does not taunt or curse or abuse or talk indecently.''

[at-Tirmidhi and he said: Hadith Hasan].

أتدرون من المفلس؟ قالوا: المفلس فينا من لا درهم له ولا متاع. فقال: إن المفلس من أمتي، من يأتي يوم القيامة بصلاة وصيام وزكاة، ويأتي وقد شتم هذا، وقذف هذا، وأكل مال هذا، وسفك دم هذا، وضرب هذا، فيعطى هذا من حسناته، وهذا من حسناته، فإذا فنيت حسناته، قبل أن يقضي ما عليه، أخذ من خطاياهم فطرحت عليه، ثم طرح في النار Abu Huraira (May Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "Do you know who is poor?" they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) said: "A poor man amongst us is one who has neither dirham with him nor wealth." He (the Holy Prophet) said: "the poor of my Ummah would be he who would come on the Day of Resurrecton with prayers and fasts and Zakat but (he would find himself bankrupt on that day as he would have exhausted his funds of virtues) since he hurled abuses upon others, brought calumny against others and unlawfully consumed the wealth of others and shed the blood of others and beat others, and his virtues would be credited to the account of one (who suffered at his hand). And if his good deeds fall short to clear the account, then his sins would be entered in (his account) and he would be thrown in the hell-Fire."

[Sahih Muslim - Book #032, Hadith #6251]
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:20 AM   #4
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Typically backward people.
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:01 AM   #5
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Can somebody translate what he is saying?

Is he joking or actually serious?
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:29 PM   #6
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The gist of what the respected scholar is saying is that God will reward those who recognise who the enemies of Islam/the prophet (pbuh) are.

So he says a man came to him and said that he didn't know any of the duas people do during tawaaf. He was asked further and it transpired he didn't even know the full bismillah, so the respected scholar says in that case you can curse the Wahhabis.

Now, all these hadiths about cursing etc...who knows more a scholar or a lay member of the Sunni forum? Even if you think he's a deviant.

Salam
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #7
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The gist of what the respected scholar is saying is that God will reward those who recognise who the enemies of Islam/the prophet (pbuh) are.

So he says a man came to him and said that he didn't know any of the duas people do during tawaaf. He was asked further and it transpired he didn't even know the full bismillah, so the respected scholar says in that case you can curse the Wahhabis.

Now, all these hadiths about cursing etc...who knows more a scholar or a lay member of the Sunni forum? Even if you think he's a deviant.

Salam
What a stupid and shameful defense. Fear Allah SWT.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:54 PM   #8
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The gist of what the respected scholar is saying is that God will reward those who recognise who the enemies of Islam/the prophet (pbuh) are.

So he says a man came to him and said that he didn't know any of the duas people do during tawaaf. He was asked further and it transpired he didn't even know the full bismillah, so the respected scholar says in that case you can curse the Wahhabis.

Now, all these hadiths about cursing etc...who knows more a scholar or a lay member of the Sunni forum?
So instead of telling the man to merely repeat the name of Allah this sajjada nashin is ordering him to curse? Na'udhu bi-Llah... Surely, you are aware that these Barelwis also consider Deobandis (who seem to be a majority on SF) to be deviated Wahhabis (both were declared 'dogs of hell' by Ahmad Raza Barelwi)? You have some gall...
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:33 PM   #9
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The gist of what the respected scholar is saying is that God will reward those who recognise who the enemies of Islam/the prophet (pbuh) are.

So he says a man came to him and said that he didn't know any of the duas people do during tawaaf. He was asked further and it transpired he didn't even know the full bismillah, so the respected scholar says in that case you can curse the Wahhabis.

Now, all these hadiths about cursing etc...who knows more a scholar or a lay member of the Sunni forum? Even if you think he's a deviant.

Salam


LOL at the fact that you think he's a respected scholar. Even many of the barelwi's have beef with him, due to certain rumours. And other scholars have commented on this hadith and no one of them will agree with what this guy is saying. Who knows more, the vast majority of Ulema, or this guy?

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Old 04-29-2012, 12:30 AM   #10
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One of the leaders of the brelwis is the UK asks his followers to swear at the Wahabbis during tawaaf if onedoesent know any othe masnoon duas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSYFzv0FBNU

Allah SWT save us from such fitnah.. ameen
Kutte ki dum kabhi seedhi nahin hogi.
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