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Old 02-03-2012, 10:37 PM   #21
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yes
another color to this deviancy is the pervezi group


hmm..they too are divided among themselves..but on what issue...as they follow only Quran... i wonder what made them now to didvide among themselves..

so sad..all these groups in our muslim community..
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:46 PM   #22
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hanbali to hanafi.


i want to know the names of the authentic books of Madhabs...since u were hanbali once..so could u give me the name of the authentic book of hanbali madhab and the name of the hadith books of this Madhab..Like hanafi follows..bukhari and Muslim..and Maliki follows Imam Muatta..so for hanbali which hadith book they follow..


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Old 02-06-2012, 01:00 AM   #23
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i want to know the names of the authentic books of Madhabs...since u were hanbali once..so could u give me the name of the authentic book of hanbali madhab and the name of the hadith books of this Madhab..Like hanafi follows..bukhari and Muslim..and Maliki follows Imam Muatta..so for hanbali which hadith book they follow..


aoa,
it doesnt work that way sister. all madhabs to my knowledge use the same ahadith bank. it was imam malik specifically who preferred muwatta simply bcoz at that time it was the only written book of collected hadith. over time other books appeared which were made use of by jurists.
having a different usool each madhab has their own fiqh book(s).
these are the ones for hanbali fiqh:
- al mughni by ibn qudamah
- al umdatul fiqh by same author
- Zaad al Mustaqni' by Sharaf ud-deen Abu An-Najaa al Hajjaawi

thats all. they used ahadith from sahih sitta as well as other hadith books but nothing specific. its just their usool is different from other madhabs just like every madhab has a unique usool
hope u understood
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:45 AM   #24
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aoa,
it doesnt work that way sister. all madhabs to my knowledge use the same ahadith bank. it was imam malik specifically who preferred muwatta simply bcoz at that time it was the only written book of collected hadith. over time other books appeared which were made use of by jurists.
having a different usool each madhab has their own fiqh book(s).
these are the ones for hanbali fiqh:
- al mughni by ibn qudamah
- al umdatul fiqh by same author
- Zaad al Mustaqni' by Sharaf ud-deen Abu An-Najaa al Hajjaawi


thats all. they used ahadith from sahih sitta as well as other hadith books but nothing specific. its just their usool is different from other madhabs just like every madhab has a unique usool
hope u understood


..i will try to find pdf. links for those books..
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:18 AM   #25
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"Whoever innovates or accomodates an innovator, then upon him is the curse of Allah, His angels and the whole of mankind." Bukhari and Muslim.

The innovator here is the innovator in beliefs such as the Qur'anist you want us to respect.


the above hadith really shook me up...

could u elaborate..the meaning of innovator in beliefs..
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #26
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aoa,
made some additons/corrections to brother umairel's post.
Allahualam in fact


salafi

arab or non-arab ghair muqallids. a very general term for a ghair muqallid.may or may not be athari. but definitive feature is they do not do taqlid of one imam. other characteristics may vary region-wise
ahlehadith
indo-pak ghair muqallids. very aggressive. do not believe there is a necessity for fiqh and ahadith to be separate. they are NOT athari
Tableeghi
jamati islami
their ideology is considered deviant by ulema-e-haqq. brother umairel is correct about their political stance
jamati muslemeen
deobandi
barelwi
wahabi
arab salafis. they reject following one madhab in totality but their 'fiqh' is whatever coincides from the madhabs with sahih ahadith. lot of emphasis on hafiz ibn e taymiyyah, sheikh albani and on bidah and shirk. they DO NOT consider taqlid to be haram or shirk


Jazakallah for ur appreciable input..

i just want to clarify some stuff..

what is the literal meaning of muqallid..

In the definition of wahabi.. u wrote wahabis are arab salafis... seems wahabis are not Indo-pak..

Ahlehadith..u wrote they are indo-pak... seems ahlehadith are not arabs....


correct me if i am wrong..
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:24 PM   #27
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i want to know the names of the authentic books of Madhabs
There are hundreds of them, If you can read Arabic this is a good book to read concerning the Hanbali Madhab.

http://www.waqfeya.com/book.php?bid=304
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:26 PM   #28
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..i will try to find pdf. links for those books..
You shouldn't, In fact if anything the only one you should look for is Umdatul Fiqh... That is the only one in English, In Arabic there are more choices for the beginner if you're interested I will give you the names of them.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:55 AM   #29
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besides four hanafi/shafii/maliki/hanbali..Madhab i came across another terminology..jafiri madhab..which i guess 5th madhab..

what is jafari Madhab and how it is different from other four Madhabs?
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