[flowersnewacq]

"The value of paper money is precisely the value of a politician's promise, as high or low as you put that; the value of gold is protected by the inability of politicians to manufacture it."
– Sir William Rees-Mogg

Ron Paul would scale back the power of the state at federal as well as local levels, he would reduce taxes, he would reduce government spending on defence, bring the troops home, not go on any more wars abroad and he would encourage individuals to work for themselves....all very Islamic.


In Praise of Private Charity
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 – by Ron Paul


"One of the great fallacies of our time is that if government doesn't do something, no one will. Its corollary is that if you are opposed to the government doing something, you are opposed to anyone performing that function at all. These disastrous fallacies color much of our national debate concerning heath care, education, poverty, housing, disaster relief and other issues.

This Easter season, I would like to applaud an organization that proves just how much private charity can accomplish without government mandates or intrusion. Convoy of Hope, based in Springfield, Missouri, is equal parts grocer, clothier, heath care provider, first responder, educator and logistics expert. It works with communities across America and around the world, bringing together other local charities, businesses, churches and government agencies to alleviate poverty and help people in the wake of disasters. The tremendous scope of its activities serves as a reminder that government is neither the sole, nor the best, provider of goods and services to people in need."


http://thedailybell.com/3777/Ron-Pau...rivate-Charity

[brandiweb]

No, since there's literally no chance whatsoever of his being elected. Even if every Muslim voted for him, he still wouldn't get over 7% of the vote since he'd be running third-party.

[flowersnewacq]

salaam

Maybe Muslims should not only vote for him but they should promote him amongst the non Muslims? All the other politicians within the main two parties will just give you more of the same and this will lead to disaster in the end, the US is in trouble with its enormous debt and no politician is prepared to take the tough decisions necessary for change.

No, since there's literally no chance whatsoever of his being elected. Even if every Muslim voted for him, he still wouldn't get over 7% of the vote since he'd be running third-party.

[courlerwele]

Assalamualikum wrbt,

A recent article published on the NYtimes newspaper reveals that Republicans use "Islam-bashing" as a way to increase their votes. Furthermore, Republican policies tend to favor strict airport searches (especially Muslims). Democratic candidates are more leninent on airport policies and have the potential of providing minority rights.

[flowersnewacq]

Assalamualikum wrbt,

A recent article published on the NYtimes newspaper reveals that Republicans use "Islam-bashing" as a way to increase their votes. Furthermore, Republican policies tend to favor strict airport searches (especially Muslims). Democratic candidates are more leninent on airport policies and have the potential of providing minority rights.

WS

Democrats are far worse than republicans in my opinion, they want a big state and government. Muslims should not fall for the two party dialectic....both parties are statists, and both parties want to wield power over the state. Ron Paul says he would reduce the state, which means he would stop body searches and the false war on terror.

[Mboxmaja]

Isnt voting shirk? especially in democracies where the source of law is supposedly the public? well according to salafis anyway. What's the Hanafi/Deobandi thought on this?

[flowersnewacq]

Isnt voting shirk? especially in democracies where the source of law is supposedly the public? well according to salafis anyway. What's the Hanafi/Deobandi thought on this?

Deobandies allow voting tactically as a Muslim Block to further increase Muslim power. They argue that if Muslims abstain from voting people who hate Muslims may get into power and make life worse for Muslims. Voting is not shirk, because you are not voting to make haram into halal and regardless of who gets into power they will do that anyway.

I personally do not vote however because I believe that voting gives the rulers an excuse to do what they like and to claim that they have the agreement of the voters. I could argue that those who voted for any government gave permission to that government to then make war and kill others abroad. Ron Paul however is saying he would reduce the power of the state and refrain from getting America involved in wars.

[Mboxmaja]

A lot of Muslims voted for Obama, will they somehow share blame in the bloodbath Obama orchestrated against Muslims? Anyway if Ron Paul wants to take a U-Turn on American policy, I don't see him as POTUS but they might use him to get the US out of war and save face at the same time, instead of calling it defeat they can just just call it Ron Paul's new foreign policy. TBH i don't believe presidents have anything to do with American foreign policy, it's dictated by the string holders, not 'elected' presidents, i bet all elections are a farce.

[flowersnewacq]

A lot of Muslims voted for Obama, will they somehow share blame in the bloodbath Obama orchestrated against Muslims? Anyway if Ron Paul wants to take a U-Turn on American policy, I don't see him as POTUS but they might use him to get the US out of war and save face at the same time, instead of calling it defeat they can just just call it Ron Paul's new foreign policy. TBH i don't believe presidents have anything to do with American foreign policy, it's dictated by the string holders, not 'elected' presidents, i bet all elections are a farce.

In principle everyone who votes for people like Obama or Bush or who participate in elections can be blamed for giving legitimacy to their war machines and mass murder. Only Allah knows if they actually share the blame, maybe they can have excuses. I agree that Democracy is a farce that the real power is money power. Obama got funding from the banks h e then bailed them out when in power...all politicians lie, why would anyone vote for known liars? Ron Paul may not be lying because he is shunned by the mainstream politicians.

[loginereQQ]

Salam 'Aleykum,

Don't waste time and vote in the west, unless there was a chance we can get someone really useful up there.

[Mboxmaja]

i dont believe in any such chances, american foreign policy is simply not dictated by presidents. It comes from the higher ups, prolly the jewish lobby.

[timmybrown]

Ron Paul is a monster. He has multiple connections to White Nationalist groups and he said that if someone chooses not to buy health insurance and needs critical care, then that person should be left to die. Ron Paul is not any better than any of the rest of the presidential candidates.

Besides:

i dont believe in any such chances, american foreign policy is simply not dictated by presidents. It comes from the higher ups, prolly the jewish lobby.

This is entirely correct, this country is run by Corporations and lobbyist groups (not just the Israeli lobby, though), not the government.