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Old 12-13-2009, 11:01 PM   #1
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in the hadith 73 sects are mentioned, we know about the 1 going to paradise (ahl assunnah wal jamah) but who are the other 72?
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:13 AM   #2
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in the hadith 73 sects are mentioned, we know about the 1 going to paradise (ahl assunnah wal jamah) but who are the other 72?
Imam Rabbani, Mujaddid Alf Thani, Shaykh Ahmed Faruqi Sirhindhi rahmatullah alayhi wrote:
"It was declared in a Hadith that this Ummah would part into 73 groups, 72 of which would go to Hell. This Hadith informs us that the 72 groups will be tormented in the Fire of Hell. It does not inform us that they will remain in torment eternally. Remaining in the torment of Hell Fire eternally is for those who do not have Iman. That is, it is for disbelievers. The 72 groups, on account of their corrupt beliefs, will go to Hell and will burn as much as the corruptness of their beliefs.

One group, the 73rd, will be saved from Hell Fire because their belief is not corrupt. If among the members of this one group there are those who committed evil deeds and if these evil deeds of theirs have not been forgiven through repentance or intercession, it is possible that these, too, will burn in Hell as much as their sins. All of those who are in the 72 groups will go to Hell.

But none of them will remain in Hell eternally. Not all of those who are in this one group will go to Hell. Of these only those who have committed evil deeds will go to Hell. The 72 reported groups of bid'ah, which will go to Hell, should not be called disbelievers, because they are Ahl al-Qibla (people of the Qibla in prayer). But, of these, the ones who disbelieve those facts in the Deen that are indispensably required to be believed, as well as those who deny the rules of the Shari'ah which every Muslim has heard and knows, become disbelievers."
(Maktubaat, Vol. 3, Letter 38)
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:18 AM   #3
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"There is no doubt whatsoever that the sect that made conforming to the conduct of the Prophet's Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) necessary, that alone is the Ahl as Sunnah wa'l Jama'ah." (Maktubaat, Vol. 1, letter 80)


"The Believer should adapt himself to the Sunnah and to the Jama'ah. The Sunnah is the way shown by Rasulullah (Peace be upon him). The Jama'ah is composed of the things done unanimously by the Sahaba al-Kiram who lived in the time of the four caliphs called Khulafa' ar-Rashidin (and others in their path).

A Muslim must prevent the multiplication of the men of bid'ah and keep away from them, and should not greet them (as given in many Hadith on this issue).

Ahmad ibn Hanbal (rahimahullah), the Imam of our Madhhab, said that greeting a man of bid'ah meant loving him since it had been declared in a Hadith, 'Disseminate (your) greeting (salaam)! Love one another in this way!" He also said "The title, Ahl as-Sunnah, which the innovators have expressed for themselves is not appropriate for them."
(Hadhrat Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani rahmatullah alayhi - Ghunyat at-Talibeen)
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:44 AM   #4
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you may read the book Al-Shahrastani "Kitab al-Milal wa'l Nihal" to know about 72 sects and their examples and descriptions.

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Old 12-14-2009, 03:42 AM   #5
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jazakallah will read it and let you know
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:19 PM   #6
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As-Salamu `alaykum.

Here is a translation i have done of a french originial text i falled on there is several days ago, and found really interesting on the analysis. May Allah forgives me about some errors i could make in typing it. Amin.


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OPEN LETTER TO MUSLIMS WHO PROMISE THE HELL TO OTHER MUSLIMS

By the Shaykh Ahmad al-`Alawi



Answering one day to a salafist-wahabi shaykh who said about the Sufi that they will be part of groups who will go to hell according to the sayings of the Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace) : “My community will divide into seventy and something groups. All are going to be in hell except one : it is the group of those who will follow the path which is mine and the one of my companions.”, the shaykh al-`Alawi had this following answer :

“But why don’t you narrate the Hadith reported by the Imam al-Ghazali in his Fasl at-Tafriqat ? The Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace) said : “My community will divide into seventy and something groups. They will all go in Paradise, except the group of the heretics.” Of course your sight didn’t fall on this Hadith ! It stopped on what was arranging yourself for promising the fire to the rest of Muslims and to keep for yourself the exclusivity of the Paradise, to those who look like you, your folks, and yourself.

Say : « If the last home beside Allah is promised to yourself, excluding anyone else, than wish the death if your are truthful ! “ But they will never desire it because of their own achievements they have done. Allah knows the cheaters." (QUR’AN 2-94)

I am guessing your wondering how we can conciliate these two sayings of the Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace). You will only find a Sufi to resolve this difficulty or others like it. Unfortunately, you won’t bow to ask him, because your jealousy has closed the door of the objectivity inside you, and is blocking to consider your misses. Anyway, i will say what Allah revealed [to this Sufi] ; supposing you don’t need it, it will always be useful for others.

The two sayings are easily concealable. It is sufficient for that to consider that the term “community” is pointing the whole of those that this message is given in the first Hadith, and the whole of those who answer to this call in the second. The sense is then clearer when we consider the complete form of the Hadith which is : “Jews divided into 71 groups and the Christians 72. About my community, it will divide into 73 groups ; all are going to be in hell except one : those who will follow my path and the one of my companions.”

The succeeding mentioned that is existed 70 religions before the coming of Musa, his own being the 71st. These groups are going to be in hell, except those who followed this path who was his, and the one of his companions. The whole 71 groups can be called his “community” because he was the messenger of God for this time, and his predication was addressed to them.

After the coming of Jesus, who complete the number of 72, all groups except those who followed his path and the one of his pupils are going to fire. Muhammad (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace), was after that sent with the Ahmadian religion [1] who corresponds to the 73rd of the mentioned groups ; all are going to hell except one : it is the group of those who follow his path and the one of his companions.

Here again, the word “community” names the whole people who are designated by his addressed predication ; truly, he said : “I am the Messenger of God, for all man living in my time or born after me.” After him, the Ahmadian religion had divided, according to the second Hadith, in seventy and something groups ; they represent the different schools and differing approaches, among all the concerned people, will all go to paradise, excluding the heretics.

Here is what is claimed by the Divine Mercy and the Ahmadian kindness ! If it wasn’t that, it will be nearly the whole community who will be lost, as just one part on seventy something would be saved ; Moreover, in this case, there is nothing to clearly identify that part, and what is proving it, is that every group pretends being the happy elected. [2] Concerning me, i attest that Allah the Exalted, is conform to the [correct] opinion that people who believe in Him have about Him, and in His Prophet and the last day, when they do their bests to approach Him. If they are correct, they will have two rewards [3], in the hypothetic contrary, they will obtain as least one.

They are rewarded anyway, if you want it or not, because the creatures are not obliged to be infallible ; they are only willing to try to be in the right, and it is explained by the “largeness” of the Ahmadian way, who makes allusion this Verse : “It has not imposed any gene in religion.” (QUR’AN 22-78). This marfu` [4] Hadith, reported by at-Tabarani, is also testifying this, according to the Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace) saying : “300 different ways (turuq) goes into my law (shari`a). It is sufficient to follow one of them to be saved.” But what is more confirming this idea, is the Hadith reported by as-Suyuti in his Jami` as-Saghir, according to the saying of the Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace) : “In every community, one part of the people goes to paradise when one other goes in the fire, except in the case of my community who, entirely, will go in paradise.”, and if it pleases to Allah, then it will be !


NOTES :

[1] Allusion to the Hadith : “I’ve been sent with the hanifiyya samha” (the hanifiyya designates the pure ibrahimic monotheism), according to that Islam is a easy religion (samha), it means simple, also according to this Verse : “It has not imposed any gene in religion ; the religion of your father Ibrahim.” (QUR’AN 22-78) Ahmad is the celestial name of the Prophet (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace).

[2] Reference to this following Hadith reported by ash-Shaykh’ayn (the two shaykhs : al-Bukhari and Muslim). The Prophet said : “Allah the Exalted said : “I am conform to the opinion My Apostle has about Me.”.” In others variations of this Hadith, the Divine saying continues as : “Than he can thinks about Me what he wants”, or again : “Than he would have a good opinion about Me.”

[3] It means, one for the sincerity of the intention, and the other for the good result : these are the terms of one Hadith reported by Muslim (no.4261) concerning the function of judge (scholar).

[4] A marfu` Hadith is a Hadith who goes back to the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah prays on him and gives him peace).



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Please consider the following text in its original language : http://www.sunnisme.com/article-25354805.html

Barakallahu fikum.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:13 AM   #7
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Assalam o Alakum

Dear Brothers --all those who will follow the Quran and Sunnah in true spirit will inshallah by the grace of Allah (subhanahu watala) enter Jannah

please visit a link www.ITandQuran.com/11_11_73 Sects.htm

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Old 04-15-2012, 09:18 AM   #8
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in the hadith 73 sects are mentioned, we know about the 1 going to paradise (ahl assunnah wal jamah) but who are the other 72?
Ahl-assunnah wal jamah is not the only sec on the right path. Rather, there are several other groups who are also right.
watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkFk...ure=plpp_video
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:24 PM   #9
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for sharing this video. Shaykh Hasan Ali really knows how to speak to his audience and explain concepts clearly

The cheap guns of takfir... that backfire. (at approx. minute 32:10 and again at approx. minute 44:50)
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:20 PM   #10
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Sigh - each individual will go to Hell or Paradise if his deeds and Aqeedah are correct -- in Quran Allah has strongly forbidden to make sects -- rather just be a Muslim - dont be sunni - wahaabi - salafi - deobandi - barelwi - ibaadi - shia - just be a Muslim

at the time of Holy Prophet (S) people just accepted Islam without doing takfir or considering himself of any sects - so i think anyone whose Aqeedah is correct and his deeds are best will go to Paradise Inshaa' Allah
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:22 PM   #11
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Remember ALLAH is AR - Rahmaan , AR RAheem -- so i have faith in him that he wont put anyone who beleives him as Rabb in Hell
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:55 PM   #12
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Why should the person with the following aqeedah should go to jannath.

There are 2000 narrations in shia books which claim that Quran is changed. Are these narrations are sound, can't be rejected (usool-e-kaafi)

The original quran brought by Jibrael AS to Rasulullah sas had 13,000 ayah (usool kaafi)

The love towards the original Quran is aborrogated. (Saafee shrah usool kaafi)

There are words which were not from Allah SWT (ehtejaj tabree)

The present quran is compiled by enemies of Auliyah.(ehtejaj tabree)

The sequence in this quran is against Allah SWT. (fasl alkhattab)

Ali's RA name is removed from many places in Quran. (tafseer saafee)
of course whoever have these beliefs is wrong - but sending someone to Paradise is in ALLAH 's hand - so i wont comment if he is going to paradise or not , who am i to decide ? i myself aint sure whether i am going to Paradise or not - i just pray for ALLAH 's mercy - just because my scholars say i am the saved group and going to Paradise doesn't mean that i believe it - coz my scholars have not gotten wahi from ALLAH that yes only Sunni are going to Paradise - so instead of pointing hands at others think first about yourself



what guarantee have you got that you are going to Paradise ? have you got the ticket ? or did you had a dream ? you think you are right just because your scholar says so ?
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:07 AM   #13
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It is not only wrong, but that belief is kufr. Do you agree.

I am sure that if I have such beliefs I shall never taste jannah.
Yes, brother, I agree but I think what akhi White-Falcon is trying to say is that is no matter what your beliefs, your ending place is only up to Allah.
If Allah wants to send a pious person to Jahannam, who can stop him?
And if Allah wants to send a sinner to Jannah, who will object?

The point is, Allah can do these things, but He probably won't, because he is Al-'Adl ((The Just)
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:08 AM   #14
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for sharing this video. Shaykh Hasan Ali really knows how to speak to his audience and explain concepts clearly

The cheap guns of takfir... that backfire. (at approx. minute 32:10 and again at approx. minute 44:50)
Haha, yes, that was one of my favorite parts.
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