[Annevecenqp]

Salam Alaykum,

Is there any manual in Hanafi Fiqh for what a person has to when they come late for the congregational prayer in terms of what they should and should not say.

For example, suppose the person gets to the 3rd Rakah of a 4 Rakah prayer. When he says takbeer, should he says Thanna (SubhanakAllah) or not? Or should he say it once he arises from the last Rakah after the Imam finsihes the prayer?

[wentscat]

How to Complete Missed Rakahs booklet, by Mufti A. H. Elias.

[Annevecenqp]

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Salam Alaykum,

I need some clarification on some points:

The booklet says that as a general rule one should miss Thana if "one joins the Jammat later in the 1st Rakaat" but also it says that "If one joins the Jamaat in the first Rakaat, the general rule is to complete the Salat behind the Imam without reciting Thana".

So my understanding is that if someone joins after the first Takbeer of the Imam, then they should not say Thana. If they caught the first Rakaat then they will not say it at all, but if they missed any of the Rakaat tehy should say it in the first Rakaa of their make-up Rakaat.

Also, the booklet does not discuss the matter of how much of the Tashahud and Durood to say. From what I understand, if a person comes late (i.e. they missed a Rakaat) they should only say Tashahud without Durood for all the times they are sitting for Tashahud with the Imam in the 2nd and 4th Rakaat, and then make up the Tashahud as appropriate for the number of Rakaat they have missed.

So can someone explain whether the above is correct or is there a need for some corrections in this respect?

[wentscat]

Here is a Q&A scenario from Askimam. Hopefully it clarifies your queries further, inshaAllaah.

Question:
If a person joins zuhr salat in the second rakat, then what is the correct way of performing the salat.

I have seen people sit in every rakat they pray after that for some reason.

Please explain in detail the correct method of performing a salat which a person joins from the middle.

Answer:

If a person misses 2 rakats of Zuhr Salah behind the Imam, he is called a Masbooq. The masbooq should make up for the 2 missed rakats after the imam completes his salah as follows:

a. In the tashahhud of the Imam’s 4th rakat the masbooq will recite only the Attahiyaat. He will not recite Durood e Ibrahim and dua.
b. When the Imam finishes the second salam, then only will the masbooq stand up to make up for the missed rakats. It is a general practice to stand up after the first salam, this is incorrect.
c. The masbooq should recite the Sanaa, Ta’wuz, Bismillah, Surah Fatiha and a sura in the first rakat and Bismillah, Surah Fatiha, and a surah in the second rakat.
d. The masbooq will perform his two missed rakats and then sit down for the tashahud and recite attahiyaat, Durud Ibrahim and dua and complete his Salah by making two salams. He does not sit after each rakat. That is incorrect.

Source

And Allaah knows best.

[ElegeExcest]

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Salam Alaykum,

I need some clarification on some points:

The booklet says that as a general rule one should miss Thana if "one joins the Jammat later in the 1st Rakaat" but also it says that "If one joins the Jamaat in the first Rakaat, the general rule is to complete the Salat behind the Imam without reciting Thana".

So my understanding is that if someone joins after the first Takbeer of the Imam, then they should not say Thana. If they caught the first Rakaat then they will not say it at all, but if they missed any of the Rakaat tehy should say it in the first Rakaa of their make-up Rakaat.

Also, the booklet does not discuss the matter of how much of the Tashahud and Durood to say. From what I understand, if a person comes late (i.e. they missed a Rakaat) they should only say Tashahud without Durood for all the times they are sitting for Tashahud with the Imam in the 2nd and 4th Rakaat, and then make up the Tashahud as appropriate for the number of Rakaat they have missed.

So can someone explain whether the above is correct or is there a need for some corrections in this respect?

Assalamu alaikum brother,

In Beheshti Zewar there is detailed discussion regarding this as far as I remember. If you can download the book free from the internet and go over it, it will answer inshaAllah all of your questions. I suggest yuo do that. Also I don't understand your last question. But if you read the book (the relevant chapter) your questions will be answered inshaAllah. You can download it here: http://www.as-sidq.org/durusulQuran/...ion-ebooks.htm

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How to Complete Missed Rakahs booklet, by Mufti A. H. Elias.

... brother, I was also looking for a book on this topic...

[Galsteinbok]

Can someone please clearly explain to me a few points:

1) If I join the salah and the imam is already in ruku, should I tie the hands first, then do a second takbir and enter ruku? I read somewhere on the forum that after takbiratul ihram, hands should be tied for the time of one tasbih, then the second tasbih, then go into ruku. Is this correct? Please tell me the status of each action in this sequence (whether wajib or sunnah). That is, takbiratul ihram, tying of the hands, standing for the duration of one tasbih, and the takbir before entering ruku.

2)If I join when the imam has already come out of ruku, and is standing before going to sajdah, what should I do?

3)If I join when imam has gone into sajdah or jalsa, what should I do?

4)If I say my takbir and am about to go into ruku and the imam at the same time says "sami allahu li man hamida" and begins to rise out of ruku, what should I do? Go into ruku or stop and return to standing? It's rare but awkward situation. If I am supposed to go into ruku and then catch up with the imam, will the rakah count?

[Galsteinbok]

Can someone please clearly explain to me a few points:

1) If I join the salah and the imam is already in ruku, should I tie the hands first, then do a second takbir and enter ruku? I read somewhere on the forum that after takbiratul ihram, hands should be tied for the time of one tasbih, then the second tasbih, then go into ruku. Is this correct? Please tell me the status of each action in this sequence (whether wajib or sunnah). That is, takbiratul ihram, tying of the hands, standing for the duration of one tasbih, and the takbir before entering ruku.

2)If I join when the imam has already come out of ruku, and is standing before going to sajdah, what should I do?

3)If I join when imam has gone into sajdah or jalsa, what should I do?

4)If I say my takbir and am about to go into ruku and the imam at the same time says "sami allahu li man hamida" and begins to rise out of ruku, what should I do? Go into ruku or stop and return to standing? It's rare but awkward situation. If I am supposed to go into ruku and then catch up with the imam, will the rakah count?

Bump.