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Old 04-01-2012, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default Misconception in the translation of Maraqi 's-Saadat


I am reading the English translation of Maraqi 's-Saadat with its commentary by Faraz Khan and on page 48 it is written:

Wudu is nullified by any one of the following things:
1/...
2/...
3/...
4/ Sleeping in a position such that the buttocks are not firmly planted onto the ground, such as while lying down or leaning one one's side*

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* As opposed to sleeping in a position with one's buttocks firmly planted onto the ground (or any firm surface), whereby wudu is not nullified. This ruling applies even if he were leaning onto something to the extent that, if it were removed, he would fall down (Hadiyya, Badai, Tabyin, Durr, Radd). From my superficial knowledge of the English language I understand that sleeping in a position with one's buttocks firmly planted onto the ground does not nullify wudu.

Is this right or just I haven't understood correctly?

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Old 04-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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From my superficial knowledge of the English language I understand that sleeping in a position with one's buttocks firmly planted onto the ground does not nullify wudu.

Is this right or just I haven't understood correctly?



Yes, this is right.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:28 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Hamdi
From my superficial knowledge of the English language I understand that sleeping in a position with one's buttocks firmly planted onto the ground does not nullify wudu.

Is this right or just I haven't understood correctly?




Yes, this is right. Brother, can you tell me what the logic of this is? So according to this when I sleep on my buttocks during the night and then wake up I still have wudu? Can you give more explanations inshallah?
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:49 PM   #4
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Is this an error in the translation or the author himself?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:00 PM   #5
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Is this an error in the translation or the author himself? Actually you can read this in the commentary of Faraz Khan, which is as a note, quoting from Hadiyya, Badai, Tabyin, Durr, Radd.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:19 PM   #6
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I mean, did the author, ash-Shurunbulali state a non-mu'tamad view or did the translator err and that originally that point is not there in the original book?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:26 PM   #7
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Brother, can you tell me what the logic of this is? So according to this when I sleep on my buttocks during the night and then wake up I still have wudu? Can you give more explanations inshallah?


This is when you fall asleep while sitting down, with the buttocks firmly attached on the ground.

If you sleep while lying - even if on your back - your wudu' will break.
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This is when you fall asleep while sitting down, with the buttocks firmly attached on the ground.

If you sleep while lying - even if on your back - your wudu' will break.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:32 AM   #9
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brother Umar!
Wa anta min ahl-il-jaza' brother, nice to hear from you even if "indirectly"
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:52 AM   #10
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Wa anta min ahl-il-jaza' brother, nice to hear from you even if "indirectly"
sorry, I can't see what's wrong in the text.I am sure I am not able to see something very obvious. Can someone plz explain
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:25 AM   #11
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sorry, I can't see what's wrong in the text.I am sure I am not able to see something very obvious. Can someone plz explain
Me too.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:43 PM   #12
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sorry, I can't see what's wrong in the text.I am sure I am not able to see something very obvious. Can someone plz explain
Due to my lack of English I didn't get the text correctly.
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:28 AM   #13
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The text has no error here. As hamdi posted, it says:

Wudu is nullified by any one of the following things:
1/...
2/...
3/...
4/ Sleeping in a position such that the buttocks are not firmly planted onto the ground, such as while lying down or leaning one one's side*
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* As opposed to sleeping in a position with one's buttocks firmly planted onto the ground (or any firm surface), whereby wudu is not nullified. This ruling applies even if he were leaning onto something to the extent that, if it were removed, he would fall down (Hadiyya, Badai, Tabyin, Durr, Radd).
This is the mu'tamad view (though not the view of Imam Abu Hanifah رضي عنه, which is alluded to in the latter part of Shaykh Faraz Khan's footnote).

For anyone studying this book, I would recommend Shaykh Faraz Rabbani's ongoing classes on it, which are free. (See seekershub.org)
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