[asSexate]

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...#disqus_thread



Looks like the emergence of modern human intelligence keeps getting pushed back further and further with each new discovery.

[somamasoso]

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...#disqus_thread



Looks like the emergence of modern human intelligence keeps getting pushed back further and further with each new discovery.

Since, the discovery was made in a cave, i feel it must have been the Jinns who were cooking their food. Remember they are created from fire and inhabited the earth before Adam was created.

[ulnanVti]

Since, the discovery was made in a cave, i feel it must have been the Jinns who were cooking their food. Remember they are created from fire and inhabited the earth before Adam was created.

Yea I have heard that long before the creation of Adam (as) jinns lived in the earth. They even waged wars against each other and made fitna on the earth.

[asSexate]

Since, the discovery was made in a cave, i feel it must have been the Jinns who were cooking their food. Remember they are created from fire and inhabited the earth before Adam was created.

I don't know...do jinnis even cook their food? And would they use fire to do it? I think it's more likely to be humans who did it. Allah knows best. My main takeaway from this is that with each new archaeological discovery, we get more evidence of human civilization stretching further back into the past...which supports the idea that all these so-called proto-hominids were in fact just humans with somewhat different physical characteristics...maybe different races that have died out. Either that, or the dating system used by archaeologists is not as accurate as we are led to believe.

[ulnanVti]

I don't know...do jinnis even cook their food? And would they use fire to do it?

lol good question. I have heard that the jinns eat the bones of our leftovers or something like that.

Anyways either the dating is inaccurate or Adam(as) descended a million years ago.

Allahu Alam.

[ExpodoDop]

well one things for sure this is a major pitfall for evolution theory. how did monkeys who eat raw flesh evolve with new enzymes and change in organs into humans who can only eat cooked meat and some cooked vegetables. this also requires learning the skill of creating fire and use of utensils for cooking food.

[hasasnn2345tv]

We should not let scientific theories and discoveries influence our deen since belief in it may be inconsequential and if a theory or discovery is proven to be false (as is the norm in the scientific community), then some of us would end up defending something that is alien to Islam to begin with.

What we can see from this, as brother NNoor pointed out, is that the theory of human evolution continues to "evolve" itself. It has been the consensus amongst evolutionists that the first Homo sapiens appeared 400,000 years ago. This theory suggests that it may have been earlier, overlapping with many of the earlier Homo species. These earlier "species" were considered to lack any real sense of intelligence so to actually discover fire is something that seems uncharacteristic of them. There are even other holes that exist, such as the earliest primitive tools that exist predate the supposed advent of the Homo species and subspecies.

[rsdefwgxvcfdts]

We should not let scientific theories and discoveries influence our deen since belief in it may be inconsequential and if a theory or discovery is proven to be false (as is the norm in the scientific community), then some of us would end up defending something that is alien to Islam to begin with.

What we can see from this, as brother NNoor pointed out, is that the theory of human evolution continues to "evolve" itself. It has been the consensus amongst evolutionists that the first Homo sapiens appeared 400,000 years ago. This theory suggests that it may have been earlier, overlapping with many of the earlier Homo species. These earlier "species" were considered to lack any real sense of intelligence so to actually discover fire is something that seems uncharacteristic of them. There are even other holes that exist, such as the earliest primitive tools that exist predate the supposed advent of the Homo species and subspecies.

You have to remember that all the ancient bone fragments that the scientists create all these names from (and attach them to false evolutionary trees) even if they were all collected from around the world and put together, would not make much of a pile.

You have to understand that what is occurring is that only a small amount of physical evidence is available about ancient humanity from which researchers must then apply their minds to understanding.

This leaves a great space into which the existing philosophical ideas of the researchers tend to be projected (notably evolutionism)

and once this projection occurs it becomes part of the general belief system so that when it is challenged by evidence that is contrary to these theories then that evidence is usually ignored as it is easier for these people to do this than to accept that many of their basic assumptions are wrong.

Homo erectus were around well over a million years ago - they were just as human as Homo sapiens, the differences between the Homo errectus and Homo sapiens are just racial variation.

The bone structures of the Homo erectus people are different from those of modern Europeans but they fall within the scope of the wide range of differences that exist amongst modern races

- in fact there are races alive today who possess amongst their possible variations between individual the various different features that were possessed by the Homo erectus - including the same feautures that are used to differentiate them from so called 'modern Homo sapiens'.

There is a lot of racism in popular modern scientific thought (which is largely a Western way of thinking) and this is applied to living and past races in different ways.

For example racists used to try and class racial groups Australian Aborigines as being a so called 'evolutionary sub-human species' even into the 1970s CE (this was even taught in the Australian school system at one time).

There is no doubt in my mind that the Homo erectus people and the other ancient 'Homo' species after them were all from the children of Adam (as).

[rsdefwgxvcfdts]

you may find ancient boat building interesting too...

Evolutionists regard the classification Homo erectus, meaning “upright-walking human,” as the most primitive species on the fictitious human family tree. They have had to separate these humans from other, earlier classes by means of the title upright, because all the H. erectus fossils we have are erect in a manner not seen in specimens of Australopithecus or Homo habilis. There is no difference between H. erectus skeletons and those of modern human beings.

Evolutionists’ most important grounds for regarding H. erectus as “primitive” are the fact that its brain volume (900 to 1100 cubic centimeters) is smaller than the modern human average, and also its thick protruding eyebrow ridges. The fact is, however, that a great many human beings today have a brain size identical to that of H. erectus (pygmies, for example), and eyebrow protrusions can also be seen in various contemporary human races, such as native Australians. It is a known that there is no correlation between brain size and intelligence and ability. Intelligence varies not according to brain size, but according to its internal organization.200

The fossils that introduced H. erectus to the world were Peking Man and Java Man fossils, both discovered in Asia. However, it was gradually realized that these two remains were not reliable. (See Java Man, Peking Man.) For that reason, more and more importance began to be attached to the H. erectus fossils discovered in Africa. (Also, some evolutionists included some of the fossils described as H. erectus in a second class, Homo ergaster. by. The matter is still a subject of debate.)
The best-known of the H. erectus specimens discovered in Africa is Nariokotome homo erectus or the so-called Turkana Boy. The fossil’s upright skeleton is identical to that of modern man.201 Therefore, H. erectus is a human race that is still in existence today. (See Turkana Boy, the.)

Professor William Laughlin of the University of Connecticut carried out lengthy anatomical research into Inuit and the inhabitants of the Aleut Islands and noted that these people bore an astonishingly close resemblance to H. erectus. Laughlin’s conclusion was that all these races are actually different races all belonging to H. sapiens,FCor today’s man:

When we consider the vast differences that exist between remote groups such as Eskimos and Bushmen, who are known to belong to the single species of Homo sapiens, it seems justifiable to conclude that Sinanthropus [an erectus specimen] belongs within this same diverse species [H. sapiens].202

There is an enormous gulf between Homo erectus, a human race, and the apes that precede it (Australopithecus, Homo habilis, H. rudolfensis) in the scenario of human evolution. In other words, the first humans to appear in the fossil records emerged suddenly, all at the same time, and in the absence of any process of evolution. There could be no clearer indication that they were created.

However, acceptance of this fact would constitute a violation of evolutionists’ dogmatic philosophies and ideologies. Therefore, they seek to depict H. erectus, a human race, as a semi-ape. That is why they insist on giving H. erectus an ape-like appearance in the reconstructions they produce. (For detailed information, see The Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya.)
HOMO ERECTUS’ MARITIME CULTURE

According to “Ancient Mariners: Early humans were much smarter than we suspected” an article published in New Scientist magazine on 14 March 1998, the human beings whom evolutionists refer to as Homo erectus were building boats some 700,000 years ago. It is of course out of the question to regard people possessed of boat-building knowledge as primitive.

http://harunyahya.com/en/Evrim_Sozlu...5/Homo_erectus

[somamasoso]

I don't know...do jinnis even cook their food? And would they use fire to do it? I think it's more likely to be humans who did it. Allah knows best. My main takeaway from this is that with each new archaeological discovery, we get more evidence of human civilization stretching further back into the past...which supports the idea that all these so-called proto-hominids were in fact just humans with somewhat different physical characteristics...maybe different races that have died out. Either that, or the dating system used by archaeologists is not as accurate as we are led to believe.

Jinns are created from Fire. And they are known to inhabit the caves.

[rsdefwgxvcfdts]

if you like this thread you may find the following of interest...

http://harunyahya.com/en/works/3392/...olution_deceit

[rsdefwgxvcfdts]

Jinns are created from Fire. And they are known to inhabit the caves.

lol http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...s_march365.xml maybe its just in the name

Miners often have some strange stories about things they see.

I know when I was younger I used to sometimes go looking in old mines and caves on my own and I can see how people can imagine jinn are in them.

Maybe if I was a jinn I would think they were nice quiet places to live, away from the hustle and bustle of the modern world