[Aluback]

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
الحمد لله حمدا طيبا كثيرا مباركا
Recently I've had this though and I want to know what some of you think especially those who spent some times researching the Twelver Shia sect.

We all know that Ahmadis are labelled Kouffar because they believe in other prophets after Muhammad SAWS such as Mirza Ghulam But what is the difference between the 12 imams of the Twelver Shia and the Prophets?

Here are ten main points that I used to compare the two:

1- Prophets are infallible and the Shia Imams are infallible since birth.

2- Allah sent the Prophets on a holy mission to give mankind divine guidance and according to the Shia Allah sent the Imams on a holy mission to give mankind divine guidance.

3- The Prophet is the leader of the Ummah and his obedience is obligatory, the Imam is also the leader of the Ummah and his obedience is obligatory.

4- Prophets communicate with angels and so do the Shia Imams.

5- Prophets know some things which will take place in the future and they know the unseen, the Shia Imams know the future and the unseen.

6- Some Prophets can communicate with Jinn or animals, the Shia Imams communicate with Jinn and animals.

7- Prophets do miracles by permission of God and the Shia Imams do miracles by the permission of God.

8- Prophets hold a high and virtuous rank above that of an average human being, according to the Shia the Imams are better than the Prophets.

9- Prophets are sent to affirm previous laws and Imams are sent to affirm previous laws.

10- Disbelief in a prophet will lead to Hell, disbelief in a Shia Imam will lead to Hell.

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I still haven't reached a final conclusion but until this moment I see no difference between the two, what do the more knowledgeable members think? especially the mods or scholars.

[Aluback]

BTW the Twelver "Basim Ali" saw this and he didn't reply.

[Dabdklwu]

Salamalaikum , plz refer this article for more details:

http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress....er-microscope/

[Aluback]

Salamalaikum , plz refer this article for more details:

http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress....er-microscope/

السلام عليكم Mr.Salafi

Your article starts out in a really good way but then it starts to get weak because you did not provide many proofs and explanations.

I added two more points and merged them with mine.

[natahololll]

Assalam alaikum

The same argument I raised on shiachat about a year ago, and asked them some straight questions but I did not see anything to tackle this argument. This is what I wrote..

1. what is the difference between Imams and Prophets?

2. What is shia view regarding Qadiyanis? Are they Kaffir? If yes then why?

3. If Qadiyanis are Kaffir for believing in the existence of a Prophet after our beloved Prophet (pbuh) , then what about you who believe in the existence of even greater in status than all Prophets?

4. Is it just about labels? if a person can have all characteristics of Prophets and even more than that without him being labelled as 'Prophet'... does it contradict concept of Khatme Nubuwwah, according to shia?

All opinions are welcome.....except people like aladdin and haideriam, unless they are ready to give me a shock with their fruitful reply.

Note for mods: This is just a list of questions, which gives shia a chance to defend them. I am not propogating Takfeer on shia here... so please don't close/delete this A shia qouted Shah Waliyullah making the same argument. Read their replies and my counter arguments here: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234977740-shia-imamah-and-qadiyanism/

[Aluback]

Assalam alaikum

The same argument I raised on shiachat about a year ago, and asked them some straight questions but I did not see anything to tackle this argument. This is what I wrote..



A shia qouted Shah Waliyullah making the same argument. Read their replies and my counter arguments here: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234977740-shia-imamah-and-qadiyanism/

From what I saw no proper answer was given by a Shia, I will give proofs for all ten points in the list from their books soon inchallah... then we'll see.

[Dabdklwu]

From what I saw no proper answer was given by a Shia, I will give proofs for all ten points in the list from their books soon inchallah... then we'll see.

oh that will be great akhee, i will update it then.....

Mr.Salafi

Your article starts out in a really good way but then it starts to get weak because you did not provide many proofs and explanations. well because i dont think any shia could dare to reject any point i mentioned because they all know that they believe in it.

[Aluback]

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
الحمد لله حمدا طيبا كثيرا مباركا
As promised a VERY BRIEF list with a few samples from the saying of the Shia scholars and their narrations regarding the comparison of Prophets and Imams in Shiism.

I request the brother well-wisher to merge this article with his article but take my ten points as I numbered them instead of the eight points in your article.

1- Allah sent the Prophets on a holy mission to give mankind divine guidance and according to the Shia Allah sent the Imams on a holy mission to give mankind divine guidance.

هداية البشر وإرشادهم إلى ما فيه الصلاح والسعادة في النشأتين، وله ما للنبي من الولاية العامة على الناس لتدبير شئونهم ومصالحهم، وإقامة العدل بينهم، ورفع الظلم والعدوان من بينهم، وعلى هذا فالإمامة استمرار للنبوة al-Muzaffar talks about the jobs of the Imams in his book of 'Aqaed page 89: From the jobs of the Imams: "Guiding mankind to what brings them happiness in the two worlds, they have to rule over the nation the same way the Prophets ruled over them so that they can take care of their affairs and interests and to carry out the justice between them and remove oppression and settle the differences of the people, in this sense the Imamah is a continuation of the Prophet-hood."

يعتبر الشيعة أن الإمامة ضرورة كضرورة الرسل . فكما أن مهمة الرسل هي هداية أقوامهم وإرشادهم إلى الصراط المستقيم كذلك مهمة الإمام بالنسبة لقومه . Shia scholar Saleh al-Wardani says in his book "'Aqaed al-Sunnah wa 'Aqaed al-Shia" page 145:
"Shia consider the Imamah to be as necessary as the messengers, just like the job of the messengers is to guide their people to a straight path the job of the Imam is the same."

2- Prophets are sent to affirm previous laws and Imams are sent to affirm previous laws.

الشيخ المفيد في كتاب (أوائل المقالات) باب (القول في عصمة الأئمة): إن الأئمة القائمين مقام الأنبياء في تنفيذ الأحكام وإقامة الحدود وحفظ الشرائع وتأتديب ألانام معصومون كعصمة الأنبياء ولا تجوز عليهم كبيرة ولا صغيرة.. ولا سهو في شيء من الدين ولا ينسون شيئاً من ألاحكام. Sheikh al-Mufid says in the book "Awael al-Maqalat" under the chapter "Al-Qawl fi 'Ismat al-Aimmah":
"The Imams who are in the position of the Prophets when it comes to carrying out the rulings of God and preserving the divine Laws"

الصادق: إن الله لا يدع الأرض إلا وفيها عالم يعلم الزيادة والنقصان، فإذا زاد المؤمنون شيئاً ردهم، وإذا نقصوا أكمله لهم The Shia attribute to Imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq this saying: "Allah does not leave the earth without a 'Alim (Imam) who knows what people add to the religion and what they subtract from it, when they add he will stop them and if they miss anything of the religion then he will complete it for them."

sources: 'Ilal al-Sharae'e pages 76-77-78, Basaer al-Darajat pages 96-143-289, al-Ikhtisas pg.289.

3- The Prophet is the leader of the Ummah and his obedience is obligatory, the Imam is also the leader of the Ummah and his obedience is obligatory.

من مات وليس له إمام يسمع له ويطيع مات ميتة جاهلية The Shia attribute to the Prophet SAWS this saying: "He who dies and he did not have an Imam so that he can listen to him and obey him then he will die the death of ignorance."

sources: al-Ikhtisas pages 268-269, Bihar al-Anwar 23/92.

الباقر: بني الإسلام على خمس: إقام الصلاة، وإيتاء الزكاة، وحج البيت، وصوم رمضان، والولاية لنا أهل البيت، فجعل في أربع منها رخصة ولم يجعل في الولاية رخصة Shia attribute to the Imam al-Baqir this saying: "Islam was built upon five things: Salat, Zakat, Hajj, Siyam and the divine rule (Wilayah) of us Ahlul-Bayt, Allah may forgive when it comes to the first four but he will not forgive when it comes to our Wilayah."

sources: Wasael al-Shia 1/23, Bihar al-Anwar 68/332-376,

أَبِي الصَّبَّاحِ قَالَ أَشْهَدُ أَنِّي سَمِعْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) يَقُولُ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ عَلِيّاً إِمَامٌ فَرَضَ اللَّهُ طَاعَتَهُ Abu al-Sabbah said: I witnessed Imam Ja'afar saying: "I bear witness that 'Ali is an Imam whose obedience has been made obligatory by Allah."

source: al-Kafi 1/186.

أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْحَكَمِ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ أَبِي الْعَلَاءِ قَالَ ذَكَرْتُ لِأَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَوْلَنَا فِي الْأَوْصِيَاءِ إِنَّ طَاعَتَهُمْ مُفْتَرَضَةٌ قَالَ فَقَالَ نَعَمْ هُمُ الَّذِينَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَ أَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَ أُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ Abu al-'Alaa said: I mentioned to the Imam Ja'afar the matter of obedience to the successors(imams) and that it is obligatory, he replied: Yes it is, for Allah said about us: "Obey Allah and obey the Prophet and those of you who are in authority."

source: al-Kafi 1/187.

4- Prophets communicate with angels and so do the Shia Imams.

ومما قلنا يتضح أيضاً سر ما نقل عن جبرائيل في إبتداء خلقه، حيث
سأله الله أكثر من مرة من أنا ومن أنت ؟! ويجيب كل مرة مخاطباً الله
بقوله: أنت أنت وأنا أنا، فيحترق بسطوات الكبرياء، ويسقط من سماء
القرب أبعد مما بين هذه الأرض وتلك السماء إلى أن ظهر مُغيث النفوس
والأرواح في عالم الأنوار والأشباح، مولى الكونين، وأمام الثقلين مولانا
علي عليه السلام، فعلمه بأن يقوم في الجواب:أنت الملك الجليل وأنا العبد
الذليل جبرائيل، فلما قال ذلك تخلص من الاحتراق بنار البعد والفراق
فاحتفظ بذلك التحقيق فإنه من مشرب رحيق. Ayatullah Khomeini says in his book "Al-Ta'aleeqah 'ala al-Fawaed al-Radawiyah" page 151:
"about Gabriel in the beginning of creation When Allah had asked him(Gabriel) several times "Who am I and who are You!?" and every time he answers Allah saying " You are you and I am I" Then Allah burns him for being too proud and sends him away from the Nearest heavens until The Saviour of Souls appeared in the world of lights and ghosts, The Mawla of the two universes and the Imam of the Thaqalayn, our Mawla Ali bin abi Talib PBUH, Then Ali taught Gabriel to say in the answer: "You are the Great King and I am the humble slave" and when he said it he was saved from the fires of Hell."

وكلمني ربي عز وجل: يا محمد، إني جعلت علياً وصيك ووزيرك وخليفتك من بعدك، فأعلمه فهو يسمع كلامك، فأعلمته وأنا بين يدي ربي عز وجل، فقال لي: قد قبلت وأطعت، فأمر الملائكة أن تسلم عليه ففعلت، فرد السلام The Prophet SAWS said: My lord spoke to me: Ya Muhammad, I have made 'Ali your successor and your caliph after you, so tell him as he hears your speech, so I told him while I was between the hands of my Lord and Ali replied: I listen and I obey, Then Allah ordered the angels to greet him with peace so they did and he returned their greeting.

sources: Amali al-Tusi page 64, al-Khisal page 141, Bihar al-Anwar 16/318.

عبدالله بن عبدالرحمان عن حماد بن عيسى عن الحسين بن المختار عن عبدالحميد الطائي قال : سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول : إنهم ليأتونا ويسلمون ونثني لهم وسائدنا ، يعني الملائكة Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH says: "The angels come to us and greet us and we hand them our pillows."

source: Bihar al-Anwar 26/355.

أحمد عن الحسين عن الحسن بن برة الاصم عن أبي عبدالله عليه السلام قال : سمعته يقول : إن الملائكة لتنزل علينا في رحالنا وتتقلب على فرشنا وتحضر موائدنا ، وتأتينا من كل ( 3 ) نبات في زمانه رطب ويابس وتقلب علينا أجنحتها وتقلب أجنحتها على صبياننا وتمنع الدواب أن تصل إلينا وتأتينا في وقت كل صلاة لتصليها معنا ، وما من يوم يأتي علينا ولا ليل إلا وأخبار أهل الارض عندنا وما يحدث فيها ، وما من ملك يموت في الارض ( 4 ) ويقوم غيره إلا وتأتينا بخبره ، وكيف كان سيرته في الدنيا . Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH says: The Angels descend upon us in our houses and they sleep in our beds and they sit at our tables and they pass their wings over us and our children and during the prayer times they prevent the animals from reaching us as they want to pray with us as well, there isn't a day that passes that we do not know what the people of the earth are doing and not one angel dies or is created unless they(Angels) deliver his news to us and how he lived in the world.

source: Basaer al-Darajat page 27.

5- Prophets are infallible and the Shia Imams are infallible since birth.

دخلت على رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) في بيت اُمّ سلمة وقد نزلت عليه هذه الآية : ( إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمْ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيراً ) ، فقال رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) : يا علي ! هذه الآية فيك وفي سبطيّ والأئمّة من ولدك فقلت : يا رسول الله ! وكم الأئمّة بعدك ؟ قال : أنت يا علي ، ثمّ الحسن والحسين ، وبعد الحسين علي إبنه ، وبعد علي محمّد إبنه ، وبعد محمّد جعفر إبنه ، وبعد جعفر موسى إبنه ، وبعد موسى علي إبنه ، وبعد علي محمّد إبنه ، وبعد محمّد علي إبنه ، وبعد علي الحسن إبنه ، والحجّة من ولد الحسن هكذا أسماؤهم مكتوبة على ساق العرش فسألت الله تعالى عن ذلك فقال : يا محمّد ! هذه الأئمّة بعدك مطهّرون معصومون وأعداؤهم ملعونون »
غاية المرام : (288 ب1 ح11 و ص293 ب2 ح6) . In the Shia narrations 'Ali says: I(Ali) entered upon Rassul-Allah SAWS in the house of Umm Salamah and this verse had been revealed: ((Allah wishes to remove Ar-Rijs (impurities) from you O Family of the House (Ahlul Bayt) and to purify you with a thorough purification.)) He SAWS said: "Ya Ali! this verse was revealed concerning you and my two Sabtayn(Hassan & Hussein) and the Imams from your children. I said: "Ya Rassul-Allah! how many Imams are after you? He said: You O Ali, then al-Hassan then al-Hussein then after his Hussein is his son Ali then the son of Ali called Muhammad then ...(states all of them by name)... Their names are written like this on the foot of the throne and when I asked Allah about it he said: "Ya Muhammad! these are the Imams after you they are pure and infallible and their enemies are cursed."

source: Ghayat al-Maram p288 ch1 #11 & p293 ch2 #6.

وأمثال هذه الادلة تدل على عصمة أئمتنا حتى من السهو والنسيان والخطأ والغلط Ayatullah 'Ali al-Milani says in his book "al-'Ismah" page 35:
"And proofs like these show the infallibility of our Imams from matters like forgetfulness and errors and mistakes."

الشيخ المفيد في كتاب (أوائل المقالات) باب (القول في عصمة الأئمة): إن الأئمة القائمين مقام الأنبياء في تنفيذ الأحكام وإقامة الحدود وحفظ الشرائع وتأتديب ألانام معصومون كعصمة الأنبياء ولا تجوز عليهم كبيرة ولا صغيرة.. ولا سهو في شيء من الدين ولا ينسون شيئاً من ألاحكام. Sheikh al-Mufid says in the book "Awael al-Maqalat" under the chapter "Al-Qawl fi 'Ismat al-Aimmah":
"They (Imams) are infallible just as the Prophets and it is not possible for them to commit a big or small sin.. nor do they forget anything from the religion and the rulings."

ويقول المجلسي: الإمامية أجمعوا على عصمة الأنبياء والأئمة من الذنوب الصغيرة والكبيرة عمداً وخطأً ونسياناً قبل النبوة والإمامة وبعدها، بل من وقت ولادتهم إلى أن يلقوا الله سبحانه al-Majlisi says in "Bihar al-Anwar" 17/108 & 25/350:
"The Imami Shia have consensus regarding the infallibility of the Prophets and Imams from small and big sins, whether by mistake or intentionally or by forgetfulness, before the Prophet-hood and the Imamah and after them, since they are born until they meet their Lord."

إن جميع الأنبياء والرسل والأئمة أفضل من الملائكة، وأنهم مطهرون من كل دنس ورجس لا يهمون بذنب صغير ولا كبير ولا يرتكبونه Ibn Babaweih al-Qummi al-Saduq says in "Amali al-Saduq" page 620:
"All the Prophets and the Messengers and the Imams are better than the Angels, they are pure from all impurities, they do not commit a sin whether small or big."

ونعتقد: أنّ الاِمام كالنبي يجب أن يكون معصوماً من جميع الرذائل والفواحش، ما ظهر منها وما بطن، من سنِّ الطفولة إلى الموت، عمداً وسهواً. Sheikh Muhammad Reda al-Muzaffar the dean of the college of Fiqh in al-Najaf in Iraq says in his book "'Aqaed al-Imamiyah" page 67 chapter 24:
"We (shia) believe that the Imam is like the Prophet, he must be infallible from all errors and mistakes, what is apparent and what is hidden of them, since his birth until his death, intentionally or unintentionally."

6- Disbelief in a prophet will lead to Hell, disbelief in a Shia Imam will lead to Hell.

قال ابن بابويه القمي الملقب عندهم بالصدوق : " اعتقادنا فيمن جحد إمامة أمير المؤمنين على بن أبى طالب والأئمة من بعده أنه كمن جحد نبوة جميع الأنبياء . واعتقادنا فيمن أقر بأمير المؤمنين وأنكر واحداً من بعده من الأئمة أنه بمنزلة من أقر بجميع الأنبياء وأنكر نبوة نبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم ( رسالته في الاعتقادات ص 103 ) . Giant Shia scholar Ibn Babaweih al-Qummi also known as al-Saduq says in Risalat al-I'itiqadat page 103:
"We (Shia) Believe that he who rejects the Imamah of Ameer al-Mumineen 'Ali ibn abi Talib and the Imams after him is like the one who rejects the Prophet-hood of all the prophets.
Our belief concerning one who accepts the Imamah of 'Ali but rejects the Imamah of any of the Imams after him is like he who has believed in all the Prophets but denied the Prophet-hood of Muhammad SAWS."

أكد المجلسي أن « من أنكر واحدا من الأئمة عليهم السلام لم ينفعه إقراره بسائر الأنبياء» (مرآة العقول2/311). The famous and renowned Shia scholar Mulla Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi author of "Bihar al-Anwar" also believed in this, he says in his book "Miraat al-'Uqool" vol.2 pg.311:
"He who denies one of the Imams peace be upon them, he shall not benefit in his belief in all the Prophets."

قال المفيد : " اتفقت الإمامية على أن من أنكر إمامة أحد من الأئمة وجحد ما أوجبه الله تعالى له من فرض الطاعة ، فهو كافر ضال مستحق للخلود في النار" Al-Majlisi then quoted the opinion of one of the biggest Shia scholars called al-Mufid to back up his opinion:
"Sheikh al-Mufid said: "The Imami Shia have consensus that he who denies the Imamah of one of the Imams and rejects obedience to him which Allah had ordered then he is a deviant Kaffir deserving to abide in hell-fire forever."

source: Bihar al-Anwar by Mulla Baqir al-Majlisi 23/390.

يقول يوسف البحراني في موسوعته المعتمدة ( الحدائق الناضرة في أحكام العترة الطاهرة ج 18 ص 153 ط دار الأضواء بيروت لبنان) » وليت شعري أي فرق بين كفر بالله سبحانه وتعالى ورسوله وبين كفر بالأئمة عليهم السلام مع ثبوت كون الإمامة من أصول الدين«. Renowned Shia scholar Yusuf al-Bahrani says in his encyclopaedia "Al-Hadaeq al-Nadirah fi Ahkam al-'Itrah al-Tahirah" vol.18 pg.153:
"There is no difference between disbelief in Allah (swt) and his Prophet and the disbelief in the Imams peace be upon them as the Imamah is from the Usool of the religion."

آية الله الشيخ عبد الله المامقاتي الملقب عندهم بالعلامة الثاني في تنقيح المقال: (1/208 باب القوائد ط: النجف 1952م) »وغاية ما يستفاد من الأخبار جريان حكم الكافر والمشرك في الآخرة على كل من لم يكن اثنى عشريا«. Ayatullah al-Sheikh 'Abdullah al-Mamaqati also known as "al-'Allamah al-Thani" in his book "Tanqih al-Maqal" 1/208:
"From the beneficial knowledge that we extract from the narrations is that the ruling of Kaffir and of Mushrik will be applied to all non-Twelvers on the day of judgement."

الخميني في (الأربعون حديثا ص 512-513) » ولاية أهل البيت عليهم السلام شرط في قبول الأعمال عند الله سبحانه بل هو شرط في قبول الأيمان بالله«. The Imam of the Shia revolution in Iran Ayatullah Khomeini says in his book "Al-Arba'oun Hadith" pages 512-513:
"The Wilayah of Ahlul-Bayt peace be upon them is a condition that Allah placed in order to accept the deeds and is a condition that he set in order to accept the Iman(Faith)."

الشيخ الشيعي محمد رضا المظفر » نعتقد أن الإمامة أصل من أصول الدين لا يتم الإيمان إلا بالاعتقاد بها، فالإمامة استمرار للنبوة« (عقائد الإمامية ص93،94،95،98 منشورات دار التبليغ الإسلامي في إيران)). Shia scholar Muhammad Reda al-Muzaffar said: "We (shia) believe that the Imamah is from the Usool of this religion and that faith cannot be achieved without it, Imamah is a continuation of Prophet-hood."

source: 'Aqaed al-Imamiyah pages 93-94-95-98.

محمد محسن المعروف بالفيض الكاشاني في منهاج النجاة ( ص 48 ط دار الإسلامية بيروت 1987م) »ومن جحد إمامة أحدهم _ أي الأئمة الاثني عشر _ فهو بمنزلة من جحد نبوة جميع الأنبياء عليهم السلام«. Giant Shia scholar Muhammad Muhassen also known as al-Fayd al-Kashani says in his book "Minhaj al-Najat" page 48:
"He who rejects the Imamah of any of them - meaning the twelve Imams - he is at the same level as one who has rejected the prophet-hood of all the prophets peace be upon them."

أمالي الشيخ الطوسي (1/314) قال: (لو جاء أحدكم يوم القيامة بأعمال كأمثال الجبال ولم يجيء بولاية علي بن أبي طالب لأكبه الله عز وجل بالنار ) . Biggest Shia scholar of all times al-Tusi also known as Sheikh al-Taefah wrote in his book "Amali al-Tusi" vol.1 pg.314:
"If any of you comes on the day of judgement and he has done good deeds the size of mountains but he does not believe in the Wilayah of 'Ali then Allah will thrown him in Hell."

فالصحيح الحكم بطهارة جميع المخالفين للشيعة الاثنى عشرية واسلامهم ظاهرا بلا فرق في ذلك بين أهل الخلاف وبين غيرهم وان كان جميعهم في الحقيقة كافرين وهم الذين سميناهم بمسلم الدنيا وكافر الآخرة. The biggest Shia scholar of Hadith Ayatullah al-Khoei says in "Kitab al-Taharah" vol.2 pg.87:
"What is correct is that all of those who differ with the Twelver Shia are pure muslims in appearance whereas in reality all of them are Kouffar and this is why we call them Muslims in the life and Kouffar in the after-life."

7- Prophets know some things which will take place in the future and they know the unseen, the Shia Imams know the future and the unseen.

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ سَلَمَةَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ بْنِ سَمَاعَةَ وَ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْقَاسِمِ الْبَطَلِ عَنْ أَبِي بَصِيرٍ قَالَ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) أَيُّ إِمَامٍ لَا يَعْلَمُ مَا يُصِيبُهُ وَ إِلَى مَا يَصِيرُ فَلَيْسَ ذَلِكَ بِحُجَّةٍ لِلَّهِ عَلَى خَلْقِهِ al-Kulayni says in al-Kafi 1/258: Imam abu 'Abdullah PBUH said: "An Imam that does not know what will happen to him and what will become of him is not a Hujjah of Allah upon his creation."

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ فَضَّالٍ عَنْ أَبِي جَمِيلَةَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَبِي جَعْفَرٍ قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَخِي عَنْ جَعْفَرٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ أَنَّهُ أَتَى عَلِيَّ بْنَ الْحُسَيْنِ ( عليه السلام ) لَيْلَةً قُبِضَ فِيهَا بِشَرَابٍ فَقَالَ يَا أَبَتِ اشْرَبْ هَذَا فَقَالَ يَا بُنَيَّ إِنَّ هَذِهِ اللَّيْلَةُ الَّتِي أُقْبَضُ فِيهَا وَ هِيَ اللَّيْلَةُ الَّتِي قُبِضَ فِيهَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) . Imam Ja'afar said that his father came to Imam 'Ali ibn al-Hussein the night he was poisoned and killed by a drink and said: "O father drink this." he replied: "O son, this is the night which I will die and it is the same night the Prophet SAWS died in."

source: al-Kafi 1/259.

عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ يُونُسَ بْنِ يَعْقُوبَ عَنِ الْحَارِثِ بْنِ الْمُغِيرَةِ وَ عِدَّةٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا مِنْهُمْ عَبْدُ الْأَعْلَى وَ أَبُو عُبَيْدَةَ وَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ بِشْرٍ الْخَثْعَمِيُّ سَمِعُوا أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) يَقُولُ إِنِّي لَأَعْلَمُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَ أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَ أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي النَّارِ وَ أَعْلَمُ مَا كَانَ وَ مَا يَكُونُ Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH was heard saying: "I know what is in the heavens and what is in the earth and I know what is in paradise and what is in hell and I know what was and what is to come."

source: al-Kafi 1/261.

وكان بنو الحسن يرشدون ويدلون الناس إليهم، فعن عبدالرحمن بن كثير أن رجلاً دخل يسأل عن الإمام بالمدينة، فاستقبله رجل من ولد الحسين، فقال له: يا هذا، إني أراك تسأل عن الإمام، قال: نعم، قال: فأصبته؟ قال: لا، قال: فإن أحببت أن تلقى جعفر بن محمد فافعل، فاستدله فأرشده إليه، فلما دخل عليه قال له: إنك دخلت مدينتنا هذه تسأل عن الإمام، فاستقبلك فتىً من ولد الحسن فأرشدك إلى محمد بن عبدالله، فسألته وخرجت، فإن شئت أخبرتك بما سألته عنه وما رده عليك، ثم استقبلك فتى من ولد الحسين، وقال لك: إن أحببت أن تلقى جعفر بن محمد فافعل، قال: صدقت، كان كل ما ذكرت ووصفت As for the sons of Al Hassan they used to tell people about themselves and their knowledge and claim Imamah for themselves: Abdul rahman bin Katheer narrated: a Man entered Madinah asking for the Imam so he was received by one of the children of Hussein who said: hey You, I see you are asking for the Imam, He said: Yes, He said: Did you find what you were looking for? He said: No, He said: If you want to meet Ja'afar bin Muhammad then please do so, So he asked for his whereabouts and was guided to him and when he entered on him he ( Al Sadiq) said: You have entered our city looking for the Imam and you were received at the beginning by one of the sons of Al Hassan Who guided you to Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hassan, so you asked that man and weren't satisfied and if you want I can tell you what you asked and what he replied, then you met a boy from the children of Hussein and he told you to meet me, The Man Said: It's All True! everything you described happened!

sources: bihar al Anwar 47/120, Al manaqib 4/221, Al Khara'ej wal jara'eh 244, MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS STORY in Al Kafi 1/348.

8- Some Prophets can communicate with Jinn or animals, the Shia Imams communicate with Jinn and animals.

al Qutb al rawandi (573 died) in al Kharaa'ej wal Jara'eh 2:825,827 - Also bihar al Anwar 42:88,106 & mi'ra'at al uqool 21:198 the Shia claim that since 'Ali (ra) could talk to the Jinn he told a female Jinni to take the shape of his daughter Umm Kulthoum and then he married the Jinni to 'Umar.

الصادق أنه قال: إن أمير المؤمنين أرسل إلى جنية من أهل نجران يهودية يقال لها: سحيقة بنت جريرية The Shia narrate from al-Sadiq: Ameer al-Mumineen called a Jewish Jinn from the people of Najran called: Saheeqah bint Jareeriyah.
sources: Bihar al-Anwar 42/88, al-Anwar al-Nu'umaniyah 1/84.

فإذا بالحيتان فاغرة أفواهها، فقالت: يا أمير المؤمنين، عرضت ولايتك علينا فقبلناها ما خلا الجري والمارماهي والزمار The whales told 'Ali: "O Ameer al Mumineen! Your wilayah was presented to us and we accepted it."
sources: al-Yaqeen page 154, Bihar al-Anwar 41/237.

جملاً قال لعلي رضي الله عنه: يا أمير المؤمنين، عليك السلام. They narrate that a camel spoke to Ameer 'Ali and told him: "Peace be upon you ya Ameer al-Mumineen."

source: Bihar al-Anwar vol.40 pg.268 & vol.41 pages 241 and 246.

وقال سبع: يا أمير المؤمنين، ويا خير الوصيين، ويا وارث علم النبيين، ويا مفرق بين الحق والباطل A lion spoke to Ameer al-Mumineen and said: "Ya Ameer al-Mumineen, You are the best of successors and the inheritor of the knowledge of the prophets and the one who distinguishes between right and wrong."

source: Bihar al-Anwar 41/233.

: أن اليهود لما ناظرته رضي الله عنه في النبوة، نادى جمال اليهود: أيتها الجمال، اشهدي لمحمد ووصيه They narrate that when the Jews debated Ameer al-Mumineen regarding prophet-hood he called on their camels and said: "O Camels bear witness for Muhammad and his successor" So the camels spoke.

source: Ma'ani al-Akhbar page 12.

9- Prophets do miracles by permission of God and the Shia Imams do miracles by the permission of God.

، فقال علي بن الحسين: أما إنك يا عم لو كنت وصياً وإماماً لأجابك، فقال له محمد: فادع أنت يا ابن أخي فاسأله، فدعا الله علي بن الحسين بما أراده، ثم قال: أسألك بالذي جعل فيك ميثاق الأنبياء والأوصياء وميثاق الناس أجمعين لما أخبرتنا مَن الإمام والوصي بعد الحسين؟ فتحرك الحجر حتى كاد أن يزول عن موضعه، ثم أنطقه الله بلسان عربي مبين، فقال: اللهم إن الوصية والإمامة بعد الحسين بن علي إلى علي بن الحسين بن علي ابن فاطمة بنت رسول الله. Ali bin al Hussein told his uncle Ibn al-Hanafiyyah: O uncle if you were a true Imam the stone would have replied to your request, so Muhammad said: Now you ask it my nephew . Then Ali asked the stone: By Allah who created you and took an oath from you for his Prophets and their successors and all of his creations would you tell us who is the Imam and Wasi after Hussein? So the Stone shook and was about to move from its place then Allah made it speak with a Clear Arabic tongue: By Allah the Wasiyah after hussein bin ali goes to Ali bin Hussein bin bin Ali Bin fatima bint Rassul Allah.

sources: Mukhtasar al Basa'er 14, Bihar al anwar (42/77,82) (45/347) (46/22,29,111) (95/160,166) Al Khara'ej wal jara'eh 194, Mu'ujam al Imam al khoei 16/48 (And he said the Narration is of a Sahih isnad) ghaybat al tusi 16,119, ithbat al hudat (2/5) (3/6,11,15,21,28,32) Al Kafi (1/348), Al Basa'er 502, Al imamah wal mutabassir 194, I'ilam al Wara 253, Al manaqib (3/288) (4/147), thoub al Nadar For Ibn Nama 292.

فقال: بيني وبينك القاضي، فقال: انطلق بنا، فلما أخرجه قال أبي: يا زيد، إن معك سكينة قد أخفيتها، أرأيتك إن نطقت هذه السكينة التي تسترها مني فشهدت أني أولى بالحق منك، أفتكف عني؟ قال: نعم، وحلف له بذلك، فقال أبي: أيتها السكينة، انطقي بإذن الله، فوثبت السكينة من يد زيد بن الحسن على الأرض، ثم قالت: يا زيد، أنت ظالم، ومحمد أحق منك وأولى، ولئن لم تكف لألين قتلك، فخر زيد مغشياً عليه Imam Al Baqir had a fight with his relative Zaid and told him: Between me and you is the judge! So they went and on their way, Al Baqir told Zaid: "You are hiding a Knife with you, If I made this knife of yours talk and admit that I am right and you are wrong would you leave me be?" Zaid bin al Hassan said YES and swore on it. then al Baqir said: O knife Speak with the permission of Allah, so it jumped from his hand to the floor and said: " Zaid you are an oppressor and Muhammad has more right to it than you and if you don't cease then I will kill you" then Zaid fainted and fell on the floor.

sources: Bihar al anwar 46/329, Ithbat al-Hudat 3/56

أن بعض أصحابه أتاه فقال: يا أمير المؤمنين قد انشق الفرات من الزيادة, فقام حتى توسط الجسر, ثم ضرب بعصاه ضربة فنقص ذراعين ثم ضربه ضربة أخرى فنقص ذراعين. Shia scholar al-Mas'oudi said in his book "Ithbat al-Wasiyah" page 160:
"Some of the companions of 'Ali came to him and told him: Ya Ameer al Mumineen! the river of furat has almost divided into two because of the high water level, so he stood in the middle of the bridge then hit with his stick once and the water level dropped two arms, he hit with his stick another time and it dropped two other arms.

10- Prophets hold a high and virtuous rank above that of an average human being, according to the Shia the Imams are better than the Prophets.

المفضل بن عمر قال: قال أبو عبد الله (عليه السلام): (ان الله تبارك و تعالى خلق الارواح قبل الأجساد بألفي عام فجعل أعلاها وأشرافها أرواح محمد وعلي والحسن والحسين والأئمة (عليهم السلام) فعرضها على السموات والأرض والجبال فغشيها نورهم فقال الله تبارك وتعالى للسموات والارض والجبال : هؤلاء أحبائي و أوليائي و حججي على خلقي و أئمة بريتي ما خلقت خلقا أحب الي منهم ولمن تولاهم خلقت جنتي ولمن خالفهم وعاداهم خلقت ناري.
قال: فلما أسكن آدم وحواء الجنة نظرا الى منزلة النبي والأئمة (عليهم السلام) فوجداها أشرف منازل أهل الجنة ، فقال لهما سبحانه : لولاهم ما خلقتكما) (معاني الاخبار ج 1 – 108) . Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH said: Allah created the souls two thousand years before the bodies and he made the highest in rank and honour the souls of Muhammad and Ali and Hassan and Hussein and the Imams PBUT, he presented them to the skies and mountains and the earth and they were encompassed by their lights, then Allah told the earth and the skies and the mountains: They are my beloved ones and my Hujja upon my creation, I created no one more beloved to me than them, I created my Heaven for those who support them and I created hell for those who oppose them.
He said: When Allah placed Adam and Eve in heaven they looked at the rank of the Prophet and the Imams PBUT and found them to be the highest in virtue amongst the people of heaven then they said: "O Lord if it were not for them you would not have created us."

source: Ma'ani al-Akhbar vol.1 pg.108.

ير : علي بن محمد بن سعيد عن حمدان بن سليمان عن عبيدالله بن محمد اليماني عن مسلم بن الحجاج عن يونس عن الحسين بن علوان عن أبي عبدالله عليه السلام قال : إن الله خلق اولي العزم من الرسل وفضلهم بالعلم وأورثنا علمهم وفضلنا عليهم في علمهم ، وعلم رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ما لم يعلموا ، وعلمنا علم الرسول وعلمهم . Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH said: Allah created the best of messengers and he preferred them in knowledge and he created us(imams) and we inherited their knowledge and he preferred for us more knowledge than them and he taught the Prophet SAWS what they did not know and he taught us (imams) what he taught the Prophet SAWS.

source: Bihar al-Anwar 26/194.

محمد بن الحسين عن أحمد بن بشير عن كثير عن أبي عمران قال : قال أبوجعفر عليه السلام : لقد سأل موسى العالم مسألة لم يكن عنده جوابها ولقد سئل العالم موسى مسألة لم يكن عنده جوابها ولو كنت بينهما لاحبرت كل واحد منهما بجواب مسئلته ولسألتهما عن مسألة لا يكون عندهما جوابها Imam al-Baqir PBUH said: Prophet Musa asked the people a question they did not know and the people asked prophet Musa a question he did not know and if I were amongst them I would have given both sides their answers and asked them both a question and they'll never know its answer.

source: Basaer al-Darajat page 63.

يمكن الاستدلال لتفضيل الائمّة سلام الله عليهم على الانبياء بوجوه كثيرة Shia scholar of Hadith Ayatullah 'Ali al-Husseini al-Milani writes in his book "Tafdeel al-Aimmah 'ala al-Anbiyaa" or in English "The superiority of the Imams over the prophets" page 8:
"We can find many proofs that show us the superiority of the Imams over the Prophets"

The list goes on...

Of course the Shia invented many narrations to make their Imams superior to the Prophets, for example their Imams know all the languages of the world and can speak them eloquently:

الهمداني عن علي عن أبيه عن الهروي قال : كان الرضا عليه السلام يكلم الناس بلغاتهم ، وكان والله أفصح الناس وأعلمهم بكل لسان ولغة ، فقلت له يوما : يابن رسول الله إني لاعجب من معرفتك بهذه اللغات على اختلافها ؟ فقال : يا أبا الصلت أنا حجة الله على خلقه ، وما كان ليتخذ حجة على قوم وهو لا يعرف لغاتهم ، أو ما بلغك قول أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام : اوتينا فصل الخطاب ؟ فهل فصل الخطاب إلا معرفة اللغات Imam al-Reda PBUH used to speak to the people in their respective languages and by Allah he was the most knowledgeable and most eloquent of the people in all the languages, I said to him once: O son of Rassul-Allah I find it strange that you know all of these different tongues? He replied: O Abu al-Salt I am the Hujjah of Allah on his creations.. haven't you heard the saying of Ameer al-Mumineen: We were given knowledge of the languages.

sources: Bihar al-Anwar 26/190, 'Uyoun Akhbar al-Reda pages 343 & 344.

أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ يَعْقُوبَ بْنِ يَزِيدَ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ رِجَالِهِ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ إِنَّ الْحَسَنَ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مَدِينَتَيْنِ إِحْدَاهُمَا بِالْمَشْرِقِ وَ الْأُخْرَى بِالْمَغْرِبِ عَلَيْهِمَا سُورٌ مِنْ حَدِيدٍ وَ عَلَى كُلِّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْهُمَا أَلْفُ أَلْفِ مِصْرَاعٍ وَ فِيهَا سَبْعُونَ أَلْفَ أَلْفِ لُغَةٍ يَتَكَلَّمُ كُلُّ لُغَةٍ بِخِلَافِ لُغَةِ صَاحِبِهَا وَ أَنَا أَعْرِفُ جَمِيعَ اللُّغَاتِ وَ مَا فِيهِمَا وَ مَا بَيْنَهُمَا وَ مَا عَلَيْهِمَا حُجَّةٌ غَيْرِي وَ غَيْرُ الْحُسَيْنِ أَخِي. al-Kulayni narrates this Hadith in his book al-Kafi 1/462 and al-Majlisi grades it as Sahih in Miraat al-'Uqool 5/357:

Imam Abu 'Abdullah PBUH said: Imam al-Hassan PBUH said that Allah has two cities one in the east and one in the west both surrounded by Iron walls and each containing 70,000,000 different languages and I know all these languages and everything in them and between them and I am the Hujja upon it and so is my brother Hussein.

Or that the angels sleep in their beds:

عمران بن موسى عن موسى بن جعفر عن الحسن بن علي عن عبدالله بن سهل الاشعري عن أبيه عن أبي اليسع قال : دخل حمران بن أعين على أبي جعفر عليه السلام وقال له : جعلت فداك يبلغنا أن الملائكة تنزل عليكم .
فقال : إن الملائكة والله لتنزل علينا وتطأ فرشنا ، أما تقرأ كتاب الله تعالى : إن الذين قالوا ربنا الله ثم استقاموا تتنزل عليهم الملائكة أن لا تخافوا ولا تحزنوا وأبشروا بالجنة التي كنتم توعدون Humran entered upon the Imam Abu Abdullah Ja'afar al-Sadiq PBUH and asked: May I be a sacrifice for you, is it true that the angels descend upon you?
He replied: Yes they descend upon us and they even sleep in our beds, do you not read the book of Allah that says: "Lo! those who say: Our Lord is Allah, and afterward are upright, the angels descend upon them, saying: Fear not nor grieve, but hear good tidings of the paradise which ye are promised."

source: Bihar al-Anwar 26/352, Basaer al-Darajat page 26.

ابن الصلت عن ابن عقدة عن محمد بن الفضل بن إبراهيم عن أبيه عن نصر بن قابوس عن جابر عن محمد بن علي بن عبدالله بن عباس قال : قال ابن عباس : ما وطأت الملائكة فرش أحد من الناس غير فرشنا "The angels do not sleep in the beds of anyone except our(Ahlul-Bayt) beds."

source: Amali Ibn al-Sheikh pages 213-214, Bihar al-Anwar 26/351.

Or that Allah accepts the supplications of the Prophets because of the intercession of the Imams:

أتى يهودي النبي صلى الله عليه وآله فقام بين يديه يحد النظر إليه ، فقال : يا يهودي ما حاجتك ؟ قال : أنت أفضل أم موسى بن عمران النبي الذي كلمه الله وأنزل عليه التوراة والعصا وفلق له البحر وأظله بالغمام ؟ فقال له النبي صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم : إنه يكره للعبد أن يزكي نفسه ، ولكني أقول : إن آدم عليه السلام لما أصاب الخطيئة كانت توبته أن قال : اللهم إني أسألك بحق محمد وآل محمد لما غفرت لي ، فغفرها الله له .وإن موسى لما ألقى عصاه وأوجس في نفسه خيفة قال : اللهم إني أسالك بحق محمد وآل محمد لما آمنتني A jew came to the Prophet SAWS and looked at him, He SAWS said: What is your need? He said: Are you better than Prophet Musa who had the Torah and the stick and he split the ocean or is he better than you? The Prophet SAWS said: It is hated for the slave to compliment himself but I say When Prophet Adam committed a sin he said: O Lord I ask you by Muhammad and his Ahlul-bayt to forgive me. so he forgave him.
.. and When Musa threw the stick he said: O Lord, I ask you by Muhammad and his Ahlul-Bayt to keep me safe.

sources: Jami'i al-Akhbar pages 8 & 9, Amali al-Saduq pages 131 & 132.

And the list goes on as we said above as they claim that their Imams are the light of Allah and the pillars of the earth...

اللهم لا تؤاخذنا بما فعل السفهاء منا

[poulaMahmah]

This is fantastic as usual.

A friend of mine once said 'If Jafar al-Sadiq actually said all the things the Shi'a say he did, he would've had to have started talking at the age of one and not stopped until he died.'

[Dabdklwu]

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[Aluback]

This is fantastic as usual.

A friend of mine once said 'If Jafar al-Sadiq actually said all the things the Shi'a say he did, he would've had to have started talking at the age of one and not stopped until he died.'

Weren't you Hanafi before bro?

[poulaMahmah]

Weren't you Hanafi before bro?

According to one opinion, no. According to another, yes. Thank you for inquiring.

[Aluback]

According to one opinion, no. According to another, yes. Thank you for inquiring.

lol there's a difference of opinion regarding your Madhab.

[poulaMahmah]

lol there's a difference of opinion regarding your Madhab.

Ikhtilaaf is a mercy!

How's this being treated by the Shi'a you've been spreading it around to?

[Aluback]

Ikhtilaaf is a mercy!

How's this being treated by the Shi'a you've been spreading it around to?

What? the difference of opinion being a Rahma?

They reject this concept at the beginning but then they begin to discover that their own scholars agree on nothing so they shut their mouths.

[poulaMahmah]

What? the difference of opinion being a Rahma?

They reject this concept at the beginning but then they begin to discover that their own scholars agree on nothing so they shut their mouths.

No, that was a throw-away comment meant to end the earlier discussion. My bad.

I mean, how is this new research of yours being treated by Shi'a?

[Aluback]

No, that was a throw-away comment meant to end the earlier discussion. My bad.

I mean, how is this new research of yours being treated by Shi'a?

They think I am a Nasibi, so anything I write is just considered a text written by an enemy of Ahlul-Bayt.

[Aluback]

I would like to add this quote by one of their biggest scholars:

وبالجملة لا بد لنا من الاذعان بعدم كونهم عليهم السلام أنبياء وبأنهم أشرف وأفضل من غير نبينا (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) من الانبياء والاوصياء ولا نعرف جهة لعدم اتصافهم بالنبوة إلا رعاية جلالة خاتم الانبياء ، ولا يصل عقولنا إلى فرق بين بين النبوة والامامة ، وما دلت عليه الاخبار فقد عرفته ، والله تعالى يعلم حقائق أحوالهم صلوات الله عليهم أجمعين

On the whole, after admission of the fact that the Imams are not prophets, we are bound to acknowledge the fact that they are superior to all Prophets and Awsiya (legatees) except our Prophet (salutations and peace upon him and his family). To our knowledge there is no reason not to describe the Imams as Prophets except consideration to the status of the Final Prophet. Our intellect too, cannot perceive a distinction between Nabuwwah (prophethood) and Imamah.

Source: Bihar Al-Anwar by M.Baqir al-Majlisi, Volume 26, p.82

[hasasnn2345tv]

To think that the Qadianis could have been spared the fatwa of kufr if they used a different vocabulary set to describe Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani!

The Qadianis even split into different groups amongst themselves because they couldn't decide whether Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was a prophet and the mahdi or just the mahdi - and both are still considered kuffaar. The kufr of those that reject the nabuwwah of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (but consider him to be the mahdi) is less heinous than the kufr of the Shi'a in this case.

Bear in mind that even the Qadianis that split from the main body hold most of the same beliefs as the original group, such as rejecting the return of 'Isa , believing that he died and is buried in Kashmir and such nonsense.

[Everwondopedo]

acknowledge the fact that they are superior to all Prophets and Awsiya (legatees) except our Prophet (salutations and peace upon him and his family).

Still, they spend 3 months mourning for Hussain, half a month mourning for Ali and 0 for the Prophet.

-Jason