[YpbWF5Yo]

Salaam. me and many muslims students are part of our university isocs. in these isocs there are numerous activities, taleem, fund raising, lectures from shuyookh that are done. however theres seems to be a mentality coming ftom some people that we are all rubbish

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such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOd6...e_gdata_player




what can one say in terms of redponse? the whole point of these isocs are that we do anything we can for fesibillah and his beloved. we do anything to get closer or learn more aBOUT Allah and his beloved Nabi s.a.e. one criticisms is held at us is that we are not doing enough for palestine. this is untrue as isocs are brilliant for fundraising etc... btwcthese vids r being promoted by asgheer bukhari. da mpacuk dude

[newpiknicker]

Salaam. me and many muslims students are part of our university isocs. in these isocs there are numerous activities, taleem, fund raising, lectures from shuyookh that are done. however theres seems to be a mentality coming ftom some people that we are all rubbish

such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOd6...e_gdata_player




what can one say in terms of redponse? the whole point of these isocs are that we do anything we can for fesibillah and his beloved. we do anything to get closer or learn more aBOUT Allah and his beloved Nabi s.a.e. one criticisms is held at us is that we are not doing enough for palestine. this is untrue as isocs are brilliant for fundraising etc... btwcthese vids r being promoted by asgheer bukhari. da mpacuk dude

My question to them is what have they done for palastine?
What have they done that is better than isoc?
Is there a bigger backgrpound to this becuase it seems like they are planning a coup.

[newpiknicker]

I dont get it what are they trying to prove?

[YpbWF5Yo]

Exactly...

And he used this hadeeth to apparently justify himself
the Messenger of Allah said: "There won't cease to be a group of my Ummah fighting upon the Truth, prevailing over their enemies, until the last of them will fight the antichrist" - reported by Abu Dawud


would someone give the correct usage and interpretation from a scholar as to the point of this hadith.... apparently isocs to them are full of falsehood

[newpiknicker]

Exactly...

And he used this hadeeth to apparently justify himself
the Messenger of Allah said: "There won't cease to be a group of my Ummah fighting upon the Truth, prevailing over their enemies, until the last of them will fight the antichrist" - reported by Abu Dawud


would someone give the correct usage and interpretation from a scholar as to the point of this hadith.... apparently isocs to them are full of falsehood

Just skimmed through some of their material and came to the conclusion that we should just ignore them(if they have a big following then maybe you would need to mashara among yourselves?). Secondly a lot of stuff is really ironic.
Proof is their in their videos even a extreme layman can spot them out- it the very irony of what they are claiming

[newpiknicker]

Exactly...

And he used this hadeeth to apparently justify himself
the Messenger of Allah said: "There won't cease to be a group of my Ummah fighting upon the Truth, prevailing over their enemies, until the last of them will fight the antichrist" - reported by Abu Dawud


would someone give the correct usage and interpretation from a scholar as to the point of this hadith.... apparently isocs to them are full of falsehood

plus isoc is just for uni- it was never a party for the masses.

[prearpaccew]

brother hugga12 I will always remember my days with the ISOC fondly. I personally witnessed a huge amount of good happening with Isocs. With regards to Asghar bukhari just ignore the person. Bro remember that people will always criticize you. The best thing is continue with what you are doing. Bro to tell you the truth I saw more islam in Isocs than I did in many places. I saw brothers fasting on Mondays and Thursdays, reading the quraan at every opportunity, memorizing quraan etc. May ALLAH bless you brother. continue the good work.

[neirty]

br hugga12, i was head of sulihull college years ago and we had a group branch off and call themselves the quraan and sunnah society. hadhrat Umar RA said to judge by the apparent. if they are going around doing stupid things and you stick to your guns of unity then people will eventually leave them and return to you. dont worry this happens every year in colleges and universitys. in my first year at solihull 6th form same happened aswell. some of the girls wanted a mixed eid party and the guys refused, creating friction which eventually lead to them making there own little group. they all returned with there heads down in shame in the end.

be patient and make dua, DONT be confrontatianal.

[RooldpalApata]

Salaam. me and many muslims students are part of our university isocs. in these isocs there are numerous activities, taleem, fund raising, lectures from shuyookh that are done. however theres seems to be a mentality coming ftom some people that we are all rubbish

such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOd6...e_gdata_player




what can one say in terms of redponse? the whole point of these isocs are that we do anything we can for fesibillah and his beloved. we do anything to get closer or learn more aBOUT Allah and his beloved Nabi s.a.e. one criticisms is held at us is that we are not doing enough for palestine. this is untrue as isocs are brilliant for fundraising etc... btwcthese vids r being promoted by asgheer bukhari. da mpacuk dude

Salaamu alaiykum
I have always been of the opinion that the ISOCs should be run by very knowledgable people. Nowadays the presidents of ISOCs can be anyone among the students no matter what his knowledge is and that's why we're failing hard. Put the knowledgable people in control, and when I mean knowledgabe, I mean teachers, not students. Spread the word brothers and sisters.
Peace.

[duawLauff]

My question to them is what have they done for palastine?
What have they done that is better than isoc?
Is there a bigger backgrpound to this becuase it seems like they are planning a coup.

they have made youtube videos attacking every other muslim....this is in their mind helping the palestinians...this is their version of jihaad

[fedelwfget]

Salaam. me and many muslims students are part of our university isocs. in these isocs there are numerous activities, taleem, fund raising, lectures from shuyookh that are done. however theres seems to be a mentality coming ftom some people that we are all rubbish

such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOd6...e_gdata_player




what can one say in terms of redponse? the whole point of these isocs are that we do anything we can for fesibillah and his beloved. we do anything to get closer or learn more aBOUT Allah and his beloved Nabi s.a.e. one criticisms is held at us is that we are not doing enough for palestine. this is untrue as isocs are brilliant for fundraising etc... btwcthese vids r being promoted by asgheer bukhari. da mpacuk dude

These people are a joke.... One challenging you to a debate ISN'T The Sunnah..... so that disproves their claim that they are upon the sunnah.... So ignore them....

If you must respond...

Tell them to create a better organization.... so they can show you how its done... talk is cheap... And if it better than what you have, tell them you will join them...