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Old 03-29-2012, 11:53 PM   #1
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Default How to measure Spiritual Progress/Regress & whether aamal are being accepted?
Has anybody heard from the scholars/mashayikh, or read in any authentic books as to how a person can determine whether they are progressing spiritually or not, and is there any indication in our lives that would actas a gauge as to whether or not our aamal are being accepted? I only ask so that I can take solace from theseindications, yet at the same time I make dua that Allah Subhanu Wa Tala saves me from pride.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:02 AM   #2
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This is a good question and I look forward to seeing some responses.JazakAllah kyran for asking it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:17 AM   #3
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Has anybody heard from the scholars/mashayikh, or read in any authentic books as to how a person can determine whether they are progressing spiritually or not, and is there any indication in our lives that would actas a gauge as to whether or not our aamal are being accepted? I only ask so that I can take solace from theseindications, yet at the same time I make dua that Allah Subhanu Wa Tala saves me from pride.
yes brother if u are talking about muraqbat then with each muraqbat there is noor which is abosrbed by the rooh and u start to develop the spiritual states in ur qalb, this shows u are progressing.

with ammal, their effect take place in ur life. like for example quran says that salat protect against zina and dirty things, if u find u are reading namaz but still look at porno it means that ur namaz are being accepted. tasbeehs have their effects on ur iman, if these effects are not generating, ur ammal are not being accepted.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:28 AM   #4
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Has anybody heard from the scholars/mashayikh, or read in any authentic books as to how a person can determine whether they are progressing spiritually or not, and is there any indication in our lives that would actas a gauge as to whether or not our aamal are being accepted? I only ask so that I can take solace from theseindications, yet at the same time I make dua that Allah Subhanu Wa Tala saves me from pride.
i forget to mention that u also need to check the feelings (kayfiyaat) in ur qalb, if u lworship, read tasbeehs but its feeling are not in ur qalb it also is an indication they are nto being accepted.

brother for ur ammal to be accepted and spirtual progression to take place u need to meet sever stringent criteria:

firstly ur aqiad need to be correct. if they are correct a beam of noor comes from the prophets pbuh heart and connects with urs. if like brewlis who have shirk in their aqaid, this beam finishes and iman finishes in ur heart and it becomes ghafil, so it doesnt matter how much u pray, worship nothing is being accpeted and u will die as a kaffir.

2ndly riza needs to be halal and tayub. i have connections with kashf people and they tell us a very large percentage of meat here in the uk is actually haram. so u need to eat halal food and earn halal rizaq

3dly.ur heart has to be clean of spritual diseases. thats where tasawuff comes in. if u have jealosy, hate, hypocricy ect.. in ur qalb allah will not accept ur duas or worship as we know allah looks at the heart and accpets only people whose hearts are clean.

4thly ur peoples rights ( hakook ul ibad) need to be correct. u dont abuse anyones rights in anyway or ur ibadat will not be accepted. we all know about the hadith about the women who used to abuse her cat despite being pious she went to hell because nothing was accepted as she wa abusing a creation of allah. according sehib-ekashf people alot of the muslims who died with iman are in punishments and the reason is mainly due to abuse of peoples rights
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:33 AM   #5
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I don't think "feelings" or "spiritual states" in the heart are necessarily an indicator of progress or lack thereof. More important is that the you see the sunnah coming into your life, both inwardly and outwardly.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:46 AM   #6
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this thread is both interesting and scary at the same time.

the bit about the tasbee and not feeling or having any manifestation of feeling or change or effect in the heart - well, leads me personally to a little bit of despair...

What I mean by that is, it feels almost as though one is quashing God's bounty to one corner and placing a condition upon whether any benefit at all can be derived from tasbee even if one doesnt feel a change in one's heart - that God won't accept it. Forgive me Allah, and forgive me brothers and sisters, but who is to say if Allah does not in one moment decide, I shall accept this tasbee and effect a change out of His Mercy?

Okay, well that was my ramble.

I guess some argue that constant trials in your life is the demonstration of God's love for you, for without trial, you may never continually turn to Him. hmm. And I may be wrong. And God forgive me for that, and correct me and guide us from being mislead.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:51 AM   #7
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i forget to mention that u also need to check the feelings (kayfiyaat) in ur qalb, if u lworship, read tasbeehs but its feeling are not in ur qalb it also is an indication they are nto being accepted.

brother for ur ammal to be accepted and spirtual progression to take place u need to meet sever stringent criteria:

firstly ur aqiad need to be correct. if they are correct a beam of noor comes from the prophets pbuh heart and connects with urs. if like brewlis who have shirk in their aqaid, this beam finishes and iman finishes in ur heart and it becomes ghafil, so it doesnt matter how much u pray, worship nothing is being accpeted and u will die as a kaffir.

2ndly riza needs to be halal and tayub. i have connections with kashf people and they tell us a very large percentage of meat here in the uk is actually haram. so u need to eat halal food and earn halal rizaq

3dly.ur heart has to be clean of spritual diseases. thats where tasawuff comes in. if u have jealosy, hate, hypocricy ect.. in ur qalb allah will not accept ur duas or worship as we know allah looks at the heart and accpets only people whose hearts are clean.

4thly ur peoples rights ( hakook ul ibad) need to be correct. u dont abuse anyones rights in anyway or ur ibadat will not be accepted. we all know about the hadith about the women who used to abuse her cat despite being pious she went to hell because nothing was accepted as she wa abusing a creation of allah. according sehib-ekashf people alot of the muslims who died with iman are in punishments and the reason is mainly due to abuse of peoples rights
asalamwalaykum hey dude, what if on the outside you are seeing you dad is earning halal and the food we get is from halal meat shop handcut meat and chicken .... then we trust that right!?! i mean what more can a person do........i dont understand how most of the people in uk are eating haram!?!
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:30 AM   #8
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i have connections with kashf people and they tell us a very large percentage of meat here in the uk is actually haram. so u need to eat halal food and earn halal rizaq
I think you are directing towards proper Islamic zabiha and not the meat it self ??
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:31 AM   #9
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3points usually mentioned by my shaykh,
For testing progress,

1: consistency on shariyah, and sunnah,
2:increase hatreds from sin, like you hate trash.
3:you become careless from peoples appreciation, and taunting.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:46 AM   #10
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I heard a Shaykh say that when you make tasbih, you take the name of Allah, then you do it again, and again, and this is the answer being given to you by Allah swt, that you are taking His name again and again. You could be doing something else, but you are not so it is a tremendous blessing that you are doing this. Even if no noticeable change comes over the heart never stop taking His Name, just do it with a sense of gratitude and humility that you are given this opportunity by Him to take His Name.



this thread is both interesting and scary at the same time.

the bit about the tasbee and not feeling or having any manifestation of feeling or change or effect in the heart - well, leads me personally to a little bit of despair...

What I mean by that is, it feels almost as though one is quashing God's bounty to one corner and placing a condition upon whether any benefit at all can be derived from tasbee even if one doesnt feel a change in one's heart - that God won't accept it. Forgive me Allah, and forgive me brothers and sisters, but who is to say if Allah does not in one moment decide, I shall accept this tasbee and effect a change out of His Mercy?

Okay, well that was my ramble.

I guess some argue that constant trials in your life is the demonstration of God's love for you, for without trial, you may never continually turn to Him. hmm. And I may be wrong. And God forgive me for that, and correct me and guide us from being mislead.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:55 AM   #11
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3dly.ur heart has to be clean of spritual diseases. thats where tasawuff comes in. if u have jealosy, hate, hypocricy ect.. in ur qalb allah will not accept ur duas or worship as we know allah looks at the heart and accpets only people whose hearts are clean.
I thought the dhikr helps to clear out the heart? Which human can control their heart and remove all these diseases? It is impossible even with a Shaykh, unless Allah provides His Grace. Who can say my heart is clean, we are not even aware of our thoughts we have most of the time in a full day. The dhikr has an effect by showing us our own faults...and having halal rizk and trying our best to refrain from sins is the foundations of the path.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:01 AM   #12
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@Abu Zakir - Jazak'Allah Khair

Tasbee for me, that's like the soft water that overtime wears down that hardened heart of stone.....and eventually, you get a beautiful rock pool.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:28 PM   #13
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I think you are directing towards proper Islamic zabiha and not the meat it self ??
yes alot of meat i not slaughterd properly or not done at all.

my dad met a non muslim who said he suplies half the muslims meat shops in bradford
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:33 PM   #14
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asalamwalaykum hey dude, what if on the outside you are seeing you dad is earning halal and the food we get is from halal meat shop handcut meat and chicken .... then we trust that right!?! i mean what more can a person do........i dont understand how most of the people in uk are eating haram!?!
brother the problem is that the meat that comes from slaughter houses is either not being slaughtered proplery or is simply not being done at all according to islamic standards. as u need to be aware not all or in fact most slaughter house owners are not religious god fearing people but greedy for money an tey dont care about halal haram.

2ndly i dont now wht to say about u as u dont have kashf and therefore cannot tell whos is haram an halal. but i do hav close onnection with some one who does. and we always check everything from him first.

brothe deen is absolutley finished in the muslim community, how can this be if all the food is halal. muslims are dug dealers rapist ruthless merciless, how this be if food is all halal that muslims have become like this.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:44 AM   #15
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Has anybody heard from the scholars/mashayikh, or read in any authentic books as to how a person can determine whether they are progressing spiritually or not, and is there any indication in our lives that would actas a gauge as to whether or not our aamal are being accepted? I only ask so that I can take solace from theseindications, yet at the same time I make dua that Allah Subhanu Wa Tala saves me from pride.



Ah.. Maqbuliyat.. i shall put forward the words of Hazrat Shaikh Zulfiqar Naqshbandi sb db..

said in one of his bayans that if u ever want to know ur Maqam in the eyes of Allah that if ur qubool or not.. introspect urself .. see to which effort or shugl Allah has engaged u in..

Remember.. in the way that one never makes a millior dollar race horse pull a donkey cart.. the same is with Allah that he never allows his Muqarrabeen to indulge themselves in the donkey work of duniya.. that he puts them in some or the other effort of his deen..

so dear bro.. when we see our selves.. the needle in our hearts tilting to either live and die for this duniya or for the sake of deen.. the matter comes clear to us..that when the most exalted Ar-Rahman wants to favour someone he gives them the faham of deen.. and when he wants to make them his dear ones.. gives them Taufeeq to do the work of deen.. and recurrent Taufeeq after completion of a an amal is indeed a sign of acceptence from Allah

duas..

wa assalam..
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:09 AM   #16
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Ah.. Maqbuliyat.. i shall put forward the words of Hazrat Shaikh Zulfiqar Naqshbandi sb db..

said in one of his bayans that if u ever want to know ur Maqam in the eyes of Allah that if ur qubool or not.. introspect urself .. see to which effort or shugl Allah has engaged u in..

Remember.. in the way that one never makes a millior dollar race horse pull a donkey cart.. the same is with Allah that he never allows his Muqarrabeen to indulge themselves in the donkey work of duniya.. that he puts them in some or the other effort of his deen..

so dear bro.. when we see our selves.. the needle in our hearts tilting to either live and die for this duniya or for the sake of deen.. the matter comes clear to us..that when the most exalted Ar-Rahman wants to favour someone he gives them the faham of deen.. and when he wants to make them his dear ones.. gives them Taufeeq to do the work of deen.. and recurrent Taufeeq after completion of a an amal is indeed a sign of acceptence from Allah

duas..

wa assalam..
jazaakallaahu khayraa. I'm keeping this as a reminder...we should drown in shukr for His ehsaanaat upon us
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:21 AM   #17
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jazaakallaahu khayraa. I'm keeping this as a reminder...we should drown in shukr for His ehsaanaat upon us


It was such a ilhami bayan by hazarat jee (db ).from which brother dr76 quated.
In another bayan hazarat jee (db ) told the same thing concerning pleasure of Allah ,that If you want to find whether Allah is pleased with you or not, just search in your heart that is your heart pleased with Allah or not.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:48 AM   #18
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so we should stop eating meat brother? ..........i mean is there really any need to go that deep to check if the slaughter is saying takbeer or is pious?
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:40 PM   #19
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so we should stop eating meat brother? ..........i mean is there really any need to go that deep to check if the slaughter is saying takbeer or is pious?
"Kashf" is not a proof in Islam.
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