[espabamar]

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[Duaceanceksm]

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Why are they specifying Dammaj? Are they from Yemen or do they have a special attachment towards the people there? Am I missing something here?

[padlabtard]

Why are they specifying Dammaj? Are they from Yemen or do they have a special attachment towards the people there? Am I missing something here?

It's a madkhali salafi stronghold - that's why. So if Ikhwanis and Qutbis get attacked, to help them is to share in their deviance. But if the madkhalis get attacked, to help them is to do jihad.

Such a sad state of affairs.

[espabamar]

Why are they specifying Dammaj? Are they from Yemen or do they have a special attachment towards the people there? Am I missing something here?

The Madhkalis have their Dar al Hadith there which is under attack by Yemeni Rafidis. Now, the Madhkalis have opposed all Mujahidin in the 4 corners of the globe for some reason or the other but are calling for help and Jihad because they need it.

[espabamar]

Such a sad state of affairs.

Sad indeed. May Allah guide them and us.

[AndrewBoss]

Weird people. The more I learn about such people the less I want to read about them.

May Allah give us all hidayah.

[padlabtard]

This might be reaching the level of "ranting", but here goes:

Even though these brothers say that they are united on the path of salaf etc. etc., in reality, I have found them to be the most partisan of people. E.g. After salaams, the first question you will usually get asked is "Which scholar do you follow or listen to?". The intention behind these questions is to place you in a certain category. They hate all other groups of salafiyya - they even have different labels for them - jihadi, qutbi, hizbi, ikhwani. And if I am honest, there are even splits at the masjid level e.g. the Brixton masjid are at odds with the Birmingham masjid etc. Very soon this will descend into into the "shaykh" level i.e. one madkhali shaykh and his students vs. another.

As for the Ash'aris and Maturudis - they are all jahmis. Some of their so-called ulama even went as far to say that it is obligatory to burn books of Imam ibn Hajr and Imam Nawawi - until they were of course gunned down by the senior Ulama in Saudi (may Allah protect them). May Allah protect us from such a fitna.

Anyway - rant over - main point being - stay away from partisanship!

[sandracuk]

Salam

just as an aside I recently met Shaykh Abdullah hakim Quick (hafidhahullah) a great scholar and a graduate of madina uni, so most would assume he's ont he salafi side of things. He came to town for an Almaghrib course on Ilsmaic history in the maghreb, spain, and the americas.

In my discussion with him it was clear that he condemned discussion of aqeedah on hairsplitting issues (istiwa, yadd) and condemned all those who call for the burning of Ibn Hajir's book's because he was an "ashari deviant" saying something along the lines of: they were out of control.

This scholar showed great respect for the ulema of the madhabs and the asharis/maturidis (though of course he has differences with them). and quoted maulana Abul Hasan ali nadwi more than once in his lectures.

just goes to show that some "salafis" are very agreeable, kinda like Shaykh Musa Al-Shareef.

[mashabox]

Weird people. The more I learn about such people the less I want to read about them.

May Allah give us all hidayah.

I sort of was going through a phase of relaxation because the amount of hair-splitting discussion has been quite low for some time here at SF. . But the reality in the world out there is a different matter altogether. We Muslims get solace (taqwiat) when we see another Muslim but the amount of division out there is really scaring. . May Allah(SWT) save us from divisive fitnahs.
Wassalam

[padlabtard]

I sort of was going through a phase of relaxation because the amount of hair-splitting discussion has been quite low for some time here at SF. . But the reality in the world out there is a different matter altogether. We Muslims get solace (taqwiat) when we see another Muslim but the amount of division out there is really scaring. . May Allah(SWT) save us from divisive fitnahs.
Wassalam

Salaam. I agree. InshaAllah my intention in writing Post#8 was to warn people of the danger posed by this group.

[AromeWahmaron]

Let the lamadhbist fight it out with their bedfellow shias. The world would be better served if these dogs didn't exist.

Salam Alaykum, I would almost agree with you there until it dawned on me - the 'lamadhabist' will invite Kuffar onto the holy lands that our prophet (saw) once walked and those Kuffar will be given carte blanche to go ahead with shock and awe bombing campaigns. Not just the Shia, but everyone who is in their way and does not get inline with their interests (many Sunni's). Having said that, noone, not even misguided Shia deserves such an appalling fate, we sometimes forget our humanity. May Allah bring them back to Sirat Mustaqim from the darkness and corruption they walk on.

Inviting Kuffar to fight with you and allowing them to slaughter other Muslims - where did the Salaf Saliheen ever do this ?

Have the so-called Neo-Salaf taken this from the period Yazid was Amir ?. Is there evidence from the Salaf they use to justify inviting Kuffar into Saudi and the surrounding countries ?

Allahu A'alam

May Allah have mercy on us and may he guide those brothers back to Sirat Mustaqim or destroy them.

[espabamar]

Let the lamadhbist fight it out with their bedfellow shias. The world would be better served if these dogs didn't exist.

Ghuluww.

[domeffire]

There is joke amoung the yamin there is no slim salafi..
Because they get take care of by the saudis where they don't have to work for living and their long unwarranted rakah of salat with well finance centre speaks for the dual islam they claim to follow.
I dislike the la madhabist and would prefer my daughter to stay unmarried then marry her to these neo fascist relegious scum. Ofcourse she may decided to marry and be victim of their mentle torture!!
Why can't the likes of EDL and la madhabist live in a different planet.

[DavidShreder]

There is joke amoung the yamin there is no slim salafi..
Because they get take care of by the saudis where they don't have to work for living and their long unwarranted rakah of salat with well finance centre speaks for the dual islam they claim to follow.
I dislike the la madhabist and would prefer my daughter to stay unmarried then marry her to these neo fascist relegious scum. Ofcourse she may decided to marry and be victim of their mentle torture!!
Why can't the likes of EDL and la madhabist live in a different planet.

brother,

Your posts against the lamadhabis are very aggressive. its a fact that many of us do not like them because of their attitude, but you are too much into that.... Any specific reason that you adopt such attitude ?

[elektikakass]

brother Nomadic I see the ban did you no good. You still have the same mouth? How is your search for a sufi shaykh?

[mashabox]

Brother Nomadic,
We are responsible only up to our capacity to perform.
We are not responsible for beyond our responsible capacities.
In deed many times situations arise where the requirement is beyond our capacities.
Even in such situations we are supposed to act according to our own capacity only.
A Mosque needs a million Lire but I can afford only a thousand - then that is all I am supposed to offer.
Similarly an obnoxious person comes to insult the deen - we are responsible up to our capacity only.
And so on.
Of course many things, like the attitudes of La-Madhhab people, have us in knots. It is painful. But again it is fruitless to hurt ourselves in order to give a fitting reply.
As Shaykh London suggests - please look for a Shaykh.
Many of us have a Shaykh. I do and it helps. It is a great blessings.
I used to feel shy about it - sort of feeling of my inadequacy becoming public.
But so what? Am I not a mere 'abd?
There is King.
There are Ministers.
There are officers.
There are workers.
There are servants.
there used to be slaves - thank Allah(SWT) for their current status.
Then there are 'abds. 'Abds are lower then slaves.
So why should I feel any pride and refuse to have a Shaykh?

Take care.
Wassalam

[padlabtard]

SubhanAllah we shouldn't say such things. At the end of the day, they are our brothers in faith and we shouldn't harbour any ill feelings for them (let alone praying for their destruction). We should always pray that Allah brings them out of their extremism into moderation. And of course to guide us as well.

If we start saying such things, that doesn't make us any better than them.

[TepSteade]

Salam Alaykum, I would almost agree with you there until it dawned on me - the 'lamadhabist' will invite Kuffar onto the holy lands that our prophet (saw) once walked and those Kuffar will be given carte blanche to go ahead with shock and awe bombing campaigns.

With all due respect, you cannot possibly think that;
1) The isolated opinion of Bin Baaz in a singular incident in which he was misinformed as to the intentions of the American army (remember, he was blind, if King Fahd and his cohorts in deception wanted to fool him, it was as easy as telling him certain things) can be projected forwards onto every 'La Madhabist'
2) Because of this they are all evil and their Imam is Yazeed bin Mu'awiyah.

[sandracuk]

Salam Alaykum, I would almost agree with you there until it dawned on me - the 'lamadhabist' will invite Kuffar onto the holy lands that our prophet (saw) once walked and those Kuffar will be given carte blanche to go ahead with shock and awe bombing campaigns. Not just the Shia, but everyone who is in their way and does not get inline with their interests (many Sunni's). Having said that, noone, not even misguided Shia deserves such an appalling fate, we sometimes forget our humanity. May Allah bring them back to Sirat Mustaqim from the darkness and corruption they walk on.

Inviting Kuffar to fight with you and allowing them to slaughter other Muslims - where did the Salaf Saliheen ever do this ?

Have the so-called Neo-Salaf taken this from the period Yazid was Amir ? He had legions of Christians and other denominations in his army that were used to crush Muslims (Sahabah and their Children) in Madinah and other places. Is that the evidence from the Salaf they use to justify inviting Kuffar into Saudi and the surrounding countries ?

Allahu A'alam

May Allah have mercy on us and may he guide those brothers back to Sirat Mustaqim or destroy them.

I'm very wary of posts that attack Yazeed because it is possible that they over exaggerate or outright fabricate things against him.

you made a claim in this post. defend it with some hard evidence from a traditional source that is acceptable across the board, or you should remove that claim. One should be very wary of making claims if there's a possibility of it not being true.

[AndrewBoss]

Have to unsubscribe again.