[alexosnasos2]

I don't appreciate your tone.
My comments were regarding the way you would react having been beaten.

Sw.

I'm sorry if I've hurt you bro, I didn't intend to really.

Not questioning the policeman's actions sets a bad precedent, that was what I was trying to point out.

[hygtfrdes]

Allah will not let the brother's sabr go to waste, Inshallah.

[Hitfaromarf]

Sw.

I'm sorry if I've hurt you bro, I didn't intend to really.

Not questioning the policeman's actions sets a bad precedent, that was what I was trying to point out.

As far as I'm concerned this was established two posts ago,

Ikhtelaaf is a mercy from Allah
You should respect anothers point of view at all times even when you disagree.

Another point is to not make such a big deal out of the past. We believe in Qadr, and what Allah has decreed is the ultimate bottom line. In stead of fretting about what people should have done or didn't do we should be more encouraging. Brother Numaan suffered quite the ordeal and him assessing the situation before making a complaint speaks volumes of his character. May Allah reward him for his Sabr, Ameen.

[alexosnasos2]

As far as I'm concerned this was established two posts ago,

Ikhtelaaf is a mercy from Allah
You should respect anothers point of view at all times even when you disagree.

Another point is to not make such a big deal out of the past. We believe in Qadr, and what Allah has decreed is the ultimate bottom line. In stead of fretting about what people should have done or didn't do we should be more encouraging. Brother Numaan suffered quite the ordeal and him assessing the situation before making a complaint speaks volumes of his character. May Allah reward him for his Sabr, Ameen.

[h0ldem]

Most of the airport have a dedicated masjid/prayer room. Its better to offer salaah over there. I had used the masjid @hongkong , bangkok airport.
But on certain ocassion bcoz of time constraint it becomes difficult to go and offer salaah in those demarced area.

Even if communist country like china has no objection then why does the so-called liberal french doesn't allow the basic freedom.

[pharweqto]

Most of the airport have a dedicated masjid/prayer room. Its better to offer salaah over there. I had used the masjid @honkong , bankok airport.
But on certain ocassion bcoz of time constraint it becomes difficult to go and offer salaah in those demarced area.

Even if communist country like china has no objection then why does the so-called liberal french doesn't allow the basic freedom.

I didn't know that you were allowed to pray in China ...

[propolo]

I didn't know that you were allowed to pray in China ...

as long as you're not a very practicing Muslim. Like I said, there's a chinese person at my work place, and if HE hadn't told me he's Muslim, no one in the office knew he is. Reason? He doesn't even know what Muslim beliefs are.

[truttyMab]

brilliant. im going to be flying through paris en route to dublin in a few months. nice to know i wont be able to make fajr.

im kinda violent too, any tips on what to do? i dont want to cause an international incident by fighting another cop.

[hygtfrdes]

Relax bro Pluto. He is the sensitive kind.

[hygtfrdes]

brilliant. im going to be flying through paris en route to dublin in a few months. nice to know i wont be able to make fajr.

im kinda violent too, any tips on what to do? i dont want to cause an international incident by fighting another cop.

Please read post 11. WS.

[courlerwele]

Sorry guys for making a fuss outta this. The thing I forgot to mention is that the salah room IS there, but I found only one in each terminal which is still great. The thing is, it wasn't my fault cause the person I asked, she didn't tell me that there was a salah room. Secondly, I'm a hot head, and get angry at small things. Trust me, I was looking for the complaint office, but something just said to me 'Remember Taif'. I was stumped because see:

1. Rasullah (SAW) was bani hashim. If he complained to bani hashim, they'd wage war with taif.
2. Rasullah (SAW) showed patience when being rejected.
3.(BIGGEST POINT) Rasullah (SAW) had Allah, the lord of the seven heavens and the seven skies, to complain, but he made dua instead.

I know I am no where near Rasullah (SAW), heck I didn't even feel that small fragment of that huge pain that rasullah felt. But this incident only made my love for the Rasul and his concern for us, valuable.

According to a buzrg, this is the time where someone slaps you, you show em the other cheek. This is the time of Makkah. Inshallah the time of Madinah or as people like to call, the time of mahdi will come, till then, gotta be patient.

[elektikakass]

brother Numaan who told you this is the makki zamana? How long will it last? Until Imam Mehdi AS? Bro man whichever buzrug said this is mistaken. Brother man see man when you are in a postion of power then you show mercy otherwise it will be seen as weakness. If you do not complain then the matter will get worse and affect other muslims. It varies from person to person. See the point is due to you not complaining it is very likely that he will continue doing it. I mean I worked in the NHS and many nurses would treat patients like dirt until they would start getting complaints and when they knew their job was in danger they started behaving themselves. I tell you what mercy is. Once some saw someone trying to rob someone and there was skip full of building materials. They picked up a few bricks and went to the guy...he stopped his robbery and apologized and said my uncle is muslim and I respect you guys.

Another time some school kids attacked a muslim guy for no reason and filmed this on their phone. Within a few minutes muslims came and chased them away...the next day they saw one guy and chased him again and he ran away....the point is the soft soft approach is good at times but our shariah has not just given the option of turning the cheek. Ask the south african brothers if they turned a cheek each time...they would be robbed on a daily basis.

[glopomcyte]

brother Numaan who told you this is the makki zamana? How long will it last? Until Imam Mehdi AS? Bro man whichever buzrug said this is mistaken. Brother man see man when you are in a postion of power then you show mercy otherwise it will be seen as weakness. If you do not complain then the matter will get worse and affect other muslims. It varies from person to person. See the point is due to you not complaining it is very likely that he will continue doing it. I mean I worked in the NHS and many nurses would treat patients like dirt until they would start getting complaints and when they knew their job was in danger they started behaving themselves. I tell you what mercy is. Once some saw someone trying to rob someone and there was skip full of building materials. They picked up a few bricks and went to the guy...he stopped his robbery and apologized and said my uncle is muslim and I respect you guys.

Another time some school kids attacked a muslim guy for no reason and filmed this on their phone. Within a few minutes muslims came and chased them away...the next day they saw one guy and chased him again and he ran away....the point is the soft soft approach is good at times but our shariah has not just given the option of turning the cheek. Ask the south african brothers if they turned a cheek each time...they would be robbed on a daily basis.

[Xutrsavf]

you said it Riyaaz. I was threatend the other day while driving for nothing.

I stoped a trafic light & saw this guy pointing at me from a taxi. like warning me that I must watch it. I just looked at him & kept on to show him that Im not scared.
then at the next stop he did it again. so I egnored him because it is chrismas these guys got their 13th check so he must be drunk. my son was in the car so I should rather just leave.
then another trafic light then I pointed back at him & told him come he said that I must com he will show me, I just bursed laughing.

besides they wouldnt be able to catch me anyway the taxi was full. guys jsut remember do not oppress & do not be oppressed. its tuff reaching the balance but you will get there one day. south african muslims faught drug dealers & gangs, I mean it was war on the streets. the police were on the side of the dealers so the muslims faught the police too. unfortunately we falling back into our comfort zone again & letting them all walk over us again.

[sobre]

Yeah..... "do not oppress & do not be oppressed"
I like this word....
But do not transgress because Allah SWT does not like Transgressors.

you said it Riyaaz. I was threatend the other day while driving for nothing.

I stoped a trafic light & saw this guy pointing at me from a taxi. like warning me that I must watch it. I just looked at him & kept on to show him that Im not scared.
then at the next stop he did it again. so I egnored him because it is chrismas these guys got their 13th check so he must be drunk. my son was in the car so I should rather just leave.
then another trafic light then I pointed back at him & told him come he said that I must com he will show me, I just bursed laughing.

besides they wouldnt be able to catch me anyway the taxi was full. guys jsut remember do not oppress & do not be oppressed. its tuff reaching the balance but you will get there one day. south african muslims faught drug dealers & gangs, I mean it was war on the streets. the police were on the side of the dealers so the muslims faught the police too. unfortunately we falling back into our comfort zone again & letting them all walk over us again.

[Hitfaromarf]

brilliant. im going to be flying through paris en route to dublin in a few months. nice to know i wont be able to make fajr.

im kinda violent too, any tips on what to do? i dont want to cause an international incident by fighting another cop.

I prayed Fajr in congregation in the dedicated prayer room

It was a wonderful experience.. many Muslims work at the airport and we didn't understand a word of what each other said but when it came time for salah we all relaxed

[courlerwele]

I prayed Fajr in congregation in the dedicated prayer room

It was a wonderful experience.. many Muslims work at the airport and we didn't understand a word of what each other said but when it came time for salah we all relaxed

Yes. Mashallah, in order to talk with the normal workers, the french needed to learn arabic. So most of them (about 10%) know arabic. The normal workers are mostly somalians. Its really amazing when you say Salaam and you get replied " Waalikum asalaam !"

[alexosnasos2]

brother Numaan who told you this is the makki zamana? How long will it last? Until Imam Mehdi AS? Bro man whichever buzrug said this is mistaken. Brother man see man when you are in a postion of power then you show mercy otherwise it will be seen as weakness. If you do not complain then the matter will get worse and affect other muslims. It varies from person to person. See the point is due to you not complaining it is very likely that he will continue doing it. I mean I worked in the NHS and many nurses would treat patients like dirt until they would start getting complaints and when they knew their job was in danger they started behaving themselves. I tell you what mercy is. Once some saw someone trying to rob someone and there was skip full of building materials. They picked up a few bricks and went to the guy...he stopped his robbery and apologized and said my uncle is muslim and I respect you guys.

Another time some school kids attacked a muslim guy for no reason and filmed this on their phone. Within a few minutes muslims came and chased them away...the next day they saw one guy and chased him again and he ran away....the point is the soft soft approach is good at times but our shariah has not just given the option of turning the cheek. Ask the south african brothers if they turned a cheek each time...they would be robbed on a daily basis.

VWP

[h0ldem]

as long as you're not a very practicing Muslim. Like I said, there's a chinese person at my work place, and if HE hadn't told me he's Muslim, no one in the office knew he is. Reason? He doesn't even know what Muslim beliefs are.

Usman bhai & Humble one.
Chinese economy is depenendant on exports therefore forigner's enjoys relatively more liberty.
A foreigner can make prayer anywhere since he is their customer.

I have got chance to visit the interior of china, it is a great "mojiza"/miracle and fazal of Allah Ta'ala that even after living in tyrannical and oppresive rule of communist there is an overwhelming population of moslems.
There are local hafiz, Alims etc.
The tomb of Hazrat Saad bin waqas is located in Guangzhou city, near Hongkong. It is the sacrifices of these stalwarts bcoz of which moslems have survived the communism.
Please take care of ur chinese colleague, teach him whatever u know. Those people are very thirsty.

[mashabox]

More from that great democratic country.