[Mypepraipse]

Once i have listened in lecture from one scholar that beard is "farz" he has given proof from one hadith that in that hadith Prophet is saying it is command from allah.

I will not say the scholar name of the scholar but he is famous scholar.

Can some one provide me the detail's of that hadith?

I know most of the people say it is sunnah. Even i also was said by my elder's that it is sunnah. But the scholar is giving proof of hadith so can some one provide me the details of that hadith?

[neerewed]

First of all we must examine very important verses said by God himself in the Quran.

"Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 3:31)

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you." (Quran 4:59)

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak)." (Quran 8:20)

Now tell me, do you love Allah? DO you want to gain paradise and have your sins forgiven? Then follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) How do you follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) ? Please read further.

Importance of the Beard in the words of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam):

(1) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "I have no connection iwth one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication."
- Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(2) The teachings of Hadhrat Ammar Bin Yaasir, Abdullah Ibn Umar, Sayyidina Umar, Abu Hurairah and Jaabir (R.A.), indicate that ALL used to keep beards that were one fist length or more. Hadhrat Jaabir (R.A.) had said: "We used to grow long beards and only during Hajj and Umrah did we trim them to the required length (i.e. fist length)."

(3) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: "He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement)."

(4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow)."
- Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498


As seen in all of these verses & Hadith, keeping a beard is very important. If you love Allah, follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam).

The Prophet came as a role model and a living example of how all muslims should be, dress, and behave. Not keeping a beard is rejecting the way of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam), and that certainly does not please Allah!


May Allah guide you to the right path and keep you away from evil filth and Shaytaan who tell you to not keep beard!

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beard is very close to fardh, i.e wajib and it is sinfull to cut it beneath the length of one fist

did he say 'obligatory' in english?; maybe he meant by that wajib, for wajib is a type of mandatory just like fardh

http://www.islam.tc/beard/beard.html

[Mypepraipse]

First of all we must examine very important verses said by God himself in the Quran.

"Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 3:31)

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you." (Quran 4:59)

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak)." (Quran 8:20)

Now tell me, do you love Allah? DO you want to gain paradise and have your sins forgiven? Then follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) How do you follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) ? Please read further.

Importance of the Beard in the words of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam):

(1) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "I have no connection iwth one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication."
- Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(2) The teachings of Hadhrat Ammar Bin Yaasir, Abdullah Ibn Umar, Sayyidina Umar, Abu Hurairah and Jaabir (R.A.), indicate that ALL used to keep beards that were one fist length or more. Hadhrat Jaabir (R.A.) had said: "We used to grow long beards and only during Hajj and Umrah did we trim them to the required length (i.e. fist length)."

(3) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: "He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement)."

(4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow)."
- Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498


As seen in all of these verses & Hadith, keeping a beard is very important. If you love Allah, follow Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam).

The Prophet came as a role model and a living example of how all muslims should be, dress, and behave. Not keeping a beard is rejecting the way of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam), and that certainly does not please Allah!


May Allah guide you to the right path and keep you away from evil filth and Shaytaan who tell you to not keep beard!

Borther i agree that the verses and hadith that you mentioned is favouring to keep beard even the scholar say's to keep beard but he say's it is fardh not sunnah and he give's the proof from hadith which i have said earlier.

So i want to know that which hadith say's that Muhammed S.A.W. says that keeping beard is command from allah to his messenger S.A.W.

[Mypepraipse]

beard is very close to fardh, i.e wajib and it is sinfull to cut it beneath the length of one fist

did he say 'obligatory' in english?; maybe he meant by that wajib, for wajib is a type of mandatory just like fardh

http://www.islam.tc/beard/beard.html

He clearly say's it is fardh in urdu language.

He say's there is a hadith in which rasool allah say's it is command from allah to his messenger i just want to know which hadith say's like that?

[neerewed]

Brother please read the words of Allah.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exempler for him who hopes in Allah and the Final Day, and who remembers Allah." (Quran 33:21)

"What Allah has bestowed on His Messenger (and taken away) from the people of the townships,- belongs to Allah,- to His Messenger and to kindred and orphans, the needy and the wayfarer; in order that it may not (merely) make a circuit between the wealthy among you. So take what the Messenger gives you, and refrain from what he prohibits you. And fear Allah: for Allah is strict in Punishment." (Quran 59:7)

"And when the true believers are called to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) [to accept and practice the law and commands of Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)] that he may pass judgement upon them, their ONLY reply is 'We hear and obey.' Such men shall surely prosper." (24:51)

Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "Anyone who shaves has no claim to the mercy of Allah"
- Reported by Ibn Abbas (R.A.) in Tibrabi

We must listen to our beloved Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). It is command of almighty Allah.

I do not know which scholar you are referring to but look at what the 4 great imams of Jurisprudence have to say.

Hanafi

Imam Muhammed (R.A.) writes in his book "Kitabul Aathaar" where he relates from Imam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) who relates from Hadhrat Haytham (R.A.) who relates from Ibn Umar (R.A.) that he (Ibn Umar) used to hold his beard in his hand and cut off which was longer. Imam Muhammed (R.A.) says that this is what we follow and this was the decision of Imam Abu Hanifa. Therefore, according to Hanafies, to shorten the beard less than a FIST LENGTH is HARAAM and on this is IJMA (concensus of opinion).

Shafi'i

Imam Shafi (R.A.) in his Kitabul Umm states, "To shave the beard is HARAAM." (Shari Minhaj dar Shara Fasl Aqueeqa).

Maaliki

Shekh Ahmad Nafarawi Maliki in the commentary of Imam Abu Zayed's booklet states, "to shave the beard is without doubt haraam according to all Imams." It is also mention in "Tamheed" which is a commentary of "Muatta" (Sunnan Imam Malik (R.A.)) that to shave the beard is HARAAM and among males the only ones to resort to this practice (of shaving) are the HERMAPHRODITES (persons who possess both male and female features and characteristics).

Hanbali

The Hanbalies in the famous Al-Khanie'a Hanbali Fatawa Kitab state that "to grow the beard is essential and to shave it is HARAAM." Also in the Hanbali Mathab books "Sharahul Muntahaa" and "Sharr Manzoomatul Aadaab", it is stated "The most accepted view is that it is HARAAM (prohibited to shave the beard)."

Also note, according to scholars of Islam: "To shave off the beard is unlawful (haraam) and one who shaves his beard is legally speaking an unrighteous fellow (FASIQ); hence, it is NOT PERMISSIBLE to appoint such a man as an Imam. To say Taraweeh behind such an Imam is MAKRUH-E-TAHRIMI (near prohibition)" (Shami Vol.1, p.523)

The Durre-Mukhtar states: "No one has called it permissible to trim it (the beard) less than FIST-LENGTH as is being done by some westernized Muslims and hermaphrodites." (Vol. 2, p. 155). Also, "It is forbidden (haraam) for a man to cut off another's beard." (Vol. 5, p. 359).

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He clearly say's it is fardh in urdu language.

He say's there is a hadith in which rasool allah say's it is command from allah to his messenger i just want to know which hadith say's like that?

sorry br. can't help you with the hadith, but will say this that if there is a hadith that says that, and i do not doubt it for a famous Scholar says so, then yet for something to be fardh, it's authenticity needs to be taken into account; wajib is what is mandatory/compulsory [just like fardh is] on a person, but it leaves the possibility of a difference of opinion i THINK, maybe due to the not absolutely conclusive evidence, thus for such a hadith to make a ruling fardh, it may have to be of the totally undoubted level of authenticity which is mutawaitr; anything below that could render a ruling wajib

the best approach to see if that Scholars ruling is valid [for himself] is to see wether he is qualified as a Mujtahid scholar; if he is not, then he should not be doing ijtihad in the first place; if he is, then he himself could adhere to his ijtihad but no one else, for all other schools and opinions of mujtahids have been prohibbited by the consensus except the four traditional schools

[Mypepraipse]

Brother please read the words of Allah.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exempler for him who hopes in Allah and the Final Day, and who remembers Allah." (Quran 33:21)

"What Allah has bestowed on His Messenger (and taken away) from the people of the townships,- belongs to Allah,- to His Messenger and to kindred and orphans, the needy and the wayfarer; in order that it may not (merely) make a circuit between the wealthy among you. So take what the Messenger gives you, and refrain from what he prohibits you. And fear Allah: for Allah is strict in Punishment." (Quran 59:7)

"And when the true believers are called to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) [to accept and practice the law and commands of Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)] that he may pass judgement upon them, their ONLY reply is 'We hear and obey.' Such men shall surely prosper." (24:51)

Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "Anyone who shaves has no claim to the mercy of Allah"
- Reported by Ibn Abbas (R.A.) in Tibrabi

We must listen to our beloved Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). It is command of almighty Allah.

If i am not wrong keeping beard is fardh right brother?

[Wckcvhsg]

It is a sunnah but such a strong one that is sinful to shave.

There are differences in length between madhabs (e.g. Shafi'i allows beard less than fist, Hanafi does not), but no dispute about the sinfulness of shaving.

[neerewed]

If i am not wrong keeping beard is fardh right brother?

According to 4 great imams of Jurisprudence, keeping beard is fardh. I have edited my post read again with more evidence.

And according to Allah, following the prophet is fardh. Keeping a beard is a way in which you follow the prophet. Therefore, yes keeping beard is fardh.

[Mypepraipse]

According to 4 great imams of Jurisprudence, keeping beard is fardh. I have edited my post read again with more evidence.

And according to Allah, following the prophet is fardh. Keeping a beard is a way in which you follow the prophet. Therefore, yes keeping beard is fardh.

If it is fardh then once upon a time i met a person while i was travelling he asked me that there are only 5 fardh in islam from 1400 year's then from where does this 6th fardh comes from?

I also want to know what is that 5 fardh of islam?

[Toscoropreark]

Beard is Wajib.
Unfortunately, now Muslims have changed the priority and we are very weak. People are not scared to Allah who takes care of entire universe and more...., but people are having a strong Yaqin of fear from police constable who stands in the corner of his street. But even Christians, mexicans, ather people have trimmed beard of 1 mm - I have seen Muslims with that beard claiming that they follow Rasool saw, good may Allah reward you. See the hadith below ; try to grow more and show the difference -

(3) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: "He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement)."

Benefits of Beard
1. you wont go to a bad place
2. your face looks good, u ll look like a Lion
3. Tomorrow if Eesa A.S or Imam Mahdi arrives, they can easily identify the Sunnah Muslim and fashion beard muslim.

[oxinsnepe]

sorry br. can't help you with the hadith, but will say this that if there is a hadith that says that, and i do not doubt it for a famous Scholar says so, then yet for something to be fardh, it's authenticity needs to be taken into account; wajib is what is mandatory/compulsory [just like fardh is] on a person, but it leaves the possibility of a difference of opinion i THINK, maybe due to the not absolutely conclusive evidence, thus for such a hadith to make a ruling fardh, it may have to be of the totally undoubted level of authenticity which is mutawaitr; anything below that could render a ruling wajib

the best approach to see if that Scholars ruling is valid [for himself] is to see wether he is qualified as a Mujtahid scholar; if he is not, then he should not be doing ijtihad in the first place; if he is, then he himself could adhere to his jitihad but no one esle, for all other schools and opinions of mujtahids have been prohibbited by the consensus except the four traditional schools

Or, he may have used the term "fard" for the sake of simplicity and to stress it's importance, similarly to how sometimes "haram" is used instead of "makruh tahriman" when presenting a ruling to "common people" and there is fear that they may misunderstand it's gravity and say "oh, it's just makruh".

Wajib or fard in terminology, the practical result is basically the same: it's obligatory to keep a beard which is at least a fistful long (at least according to the Hanafi Madhhab).

[oxinsnepe]

If it is fardh then once upon a time i met a person while i was travelling he asked me that there are only 5 fardh in islam from 1400 year's then from where does this 6th fardh comes from?

I also want to know what is that 5 fardh of islam?

Just in the Salah itself there are more than 5 fara'id..

He's just wrong, or maybe he was talking about the 5 "pillars" (arkan) of Islam; which don't prevent the existance of many other things being obligatory (i.e. abstaining from pork is not in the 5 pillars, but still it's absolutely compulsory).

[Immerymopay]

Sunnah and Fard are not mutually exclusive terms.

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Or, he may have used the term "fard" for the sake of simplicity and to stress it's importance, similarly to how sometimes "haram" is used instead of "makruh tahriman" when presenting a ruling to "common people" and there is fear that they may misunderstand it's gravity and say "oh, it's just makruh".

Wajib or fard in terminology, the practical result is basically the same: it's obligatory to keep a beard which is at least a fistful long (at least according to the Hanafi Madhhab).

that is right; never thought of that!

JazakAllah!

[Mypepraipse]

Just in the Salah itself there are more than 5 fara'id..

He's just wrong, or maybe he was talking about the 5 "pillars" (arkan) of Islam; which don't prevent the existance of many other things being obligatory (i.e. abstaining from pork is not in the 5 pillars, but still it's absolutely compulsory).

Yes brother he is talking about the 5 pillar's only.

He say's only 5 pillar's are fardh.

So how should i answer him?

[Mypepraipse]

Or, he may have used the term "fard" for the sake of simplicity and to stress it's importance, similarly to how sometimes "haram" is used instead of "makruh tahriman" when presenting a ruling to "common people" and there is fear that they may misunderstand it's gravity and say "oh, it's just makruh".

Wajib or fard in terminology, the practical result is basically the same: it's obligatory to keep a beard which is at least a fistful long (at least according to the Hanafi Madhhab).

He has used the term fardh to make beard strictly compulsory, actually he was asked the question Beard Fardh or Sunnah? Then replied it is fardh and presented the proof from that hadith.

[elektikakass]

brother grow a beard....simple conclusion. I was very disappointed with an arab alim who got into a legal discussion about the beard etc and tried to downplay it. Another example is when our dear egpytian brothers started a campaign to grow a beard and wanted 1 million men to grow beards a sufi alim who is famous mentions that it would have been better if they focused on other things. Such discussion is not very beneficial. At the end of the day we know the prophet sallahuwaslaam had a beard so just grow one.

[Mypepraipse]

brother grow a beard....simple conclusion. I was very disappointed with an arab alim who got into a legal discussion about the beard etc and tried to downplay it. Another example is when our dear egpytian brothers started a campaign to grow a beard and wanted 1 million men to grow beards a sufi alim who is famous mentions that it would have been better if they focused on other things. Such discussion is not very beneficial. At the end of the day we know the prophet sallahuwaslaam had a beard so just grow one.

i had beard, the reason for asking this question because i want to know it is fardh or sunnah because lot of people in our locality will say it is sunnah and does not grow beard they say if it is sunnah then it is optional.

I have seen a muslima married to a idol worshipper just because of love.

I have seen a muslima viel roaming in bike with idol worshipper just because of love.

In our locality it has become common that a muslim without beard loves non muslim girl and muslima loves idol worshipper.

In our locality if a muslim he has not got beard then he looks like non muslim i mean both the faces of muslim and non muslim matches maximum.

If a muslima goes out with muslim without beard then no one can say she is going with muslim or non muslim.

So the purpose of the question is we say all muslima should wear hijab and lot of people say growing beard is sunnah and not compulsory they dont grow it so i think this not correct.

If we command our muslima to wear hijab then we should also have beard.

If a muslim has beard and a muslima goes out with him then we can easily find out she is good muslima.

If we dont have beard then we are spoiling the name of our muslima only.

I hate people those who do not grow beard.

And that is why i asked this question so that if i come to know if it is compulsory then i can guide those people those who say it is sunnah and make it as optional.