[Ladbarbastirm]

Asalamu Aleikum - i want to know about naad e ali - i have heard lots of sunnis and sufis and qadriya sufis recite Naad e Ali coz it helps in solving one's problems -- by beleiving that Hazrat Ali (R) is just intercession in solving one's problem -- is it OK to recite Naad e Ali ???

[Qeiafib]

Never heard of it. Better to recite the Quran to solve your problems instead.

Abu Sa'eed RadiyAllahu `anhu narrates that Rasulullah Sallallahu `alaihi wasallam said: "Almighty Allah says; "If anybody finds no time for My remembrance and for begging favors of Me, because of his remaining busy with the Qur'an, I shall give him more than what I give to all those who beg favors of Me. The superiority of the Word of Allah over all other words is like the super*iority of Allah over the entire creation." (Tirmidhi, Bayhaqi)

[lovespellszz]

Salam 'Aleykum,

What is the text of this innovation? paste it here please so we can read it.

[Ladbarbastirm]

Salam 'Aleykum,

What is the text of this innovation? paste it here please so we can read it.

Naad-e-Aliyan Mazhar-il-Ajaeb
Call Ali The Manifestor of Wonders

Tajdahu Aunalaka Finna Vaeb
Thou shalt find him a helper unto thee in thy difficulties

Kullu Hammin Va Ghammin Sayanjali
Presently all worries and sorrows will be removed

Beazmatika Ya Allaho
By thy Greatness O Lord

Benabooatika Ya Muhammado
By thy Apostleship O Muhammed (S.A)

Bevelayatika Ya Aliyo Ya Aliyo Ya Aliyo
By thy Authority O Ali, O Ali, O Ali!

Adriknee Adriknee Adriknee Fee Sabeel Illah
Come to my help, in the Name of Allah

lots of sunnis recite it -- and i also saw books on it on market -- so is it ok to recite it ?

[lovespellszz]

That is Kufr mixed with shirk.

[Ladbarbastirm]

That is Kufr mixed with shirk.

ok i saw a book on it today in market thats why i asked -- so i guess its best to 100% avoid it

[Fdhwzctl]

Assalamu 'alaykum,

That is Kufr mixed with shirk.

True!

A very good refutation of this shirki saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=-W9RjOJ7aYs

(Note: One shouldn't be deceived by shi'ah rafidhah and other mushrikin when they call such shirki sayings as "tawassul". This is not tawassul!)

[Madjostok]

mango sada ussi se
mangey na jo kissi se
mushkil kusha wohi hai
hajjat rawa wohi hai

always make dua to Him
who does not need to make dua to anyone
He is the remover of difficulties
He is the fulfiller of needs

[AndrewBoss]

That is Kufr mixed with shirk.

Some people don't care as long as it seems to 'work', you know they are on a different level than us...By the way have a look at the isnad which is like a hundred years long..

[GrileVege]

Some people don't care as long as it seems to 'work', you know they are on a different level than us...By the way have a look at the isnad which is like a hundred years long..

I can totally believe that sufis and some sunnis (as not all sunnis are bad) listen to that because they have very poor understanding of the deen, not to mention their acceptance towards deviated people (particularly shi'as) hence their falling into the same deviation.

[Madjostok]

I can totally believe that sufis and some sunnis (as not all sunnis are bad) listen to that because they have very poor understanding of the deen, not to mention their acceptance towards deviated people (particularly shi'as) hence their falling into the same deviation.

hmmm do you know there are actually sunni sufis who have been made shaheed due to their speaking out against shias in recent times....i dont know of any other groups or movements against shiaism as they are

there are different types of sufis just as there are different types of salafis

[lovespellszz]

I can totally believe that sufis and some sunnis (as not all sunnis are bad) listen to that because they have very poor understanding of the deen, not to mention their acceptance towards deviated people (particularly shi'as) hence their falling into the same deviation.

Salam 'Aleykum,

It has something to do with religious education, in areas of ignorance where the people don't have access to proper scholars or books they may go after this sort of thing may Allah guide them.

[GrileVege]

hmmm do you know there are actually sunni sufis who have been made shaheed due to their speaking out against shias in recent times....i dont know of any other groups or movements against shiaism as they are

there are different types of sufis just as there are different types of salafis

Yeah, that's why I said some...

[ethigSmimbine]

That is Kufr mixed with shirk.

This ' culture ' of saying Ya Ali has also confused me . I have heard sunni muslims say Ya Ali especially when they undertake a task that needs physical strength. They say it more as a way of motivating themselves and others.

Of course is always more common.

I guess it comes from the well known attributes of Hazrat Ali
Hazrat Ali being known for his bravery and strength physical and spiritual.

[hygtfrdes]

mango sada ussi se
mangey na jo kissi se
mushkil kusha wohi hai
hajjat rawa wohi hai

always make dua to Him
who does not need to make dua to anyone
He is the remover of difficulties
He is the fulfiller of needs

Jo maangna hai Khuda se maang, aye Akbar,
Ye woh dar hai jahaan maangne se 'izzat nahin jaati.

Ask what thou wilt from thy Lord, O Akbar,
This is the doorstep where beggars don't lose their self respect.

[ElenaEvgeevnaa]

Sometimes I wonder if 'Umar (ra) somehow appeared in this day and age, would he even be able to recognize Islam as it is being practiced in many parts of the Muslim world?

[mashabox]

He, for sure, will have lots of work to do. May Allah(SWT) be well pleased with him.

[appletango]

Salam

A Urdu justification

[Madjostok]

Sometimes I wonder if 'Umar (ra) somehow appeared in this day and age, would he even be able to recognize Islam as it is being practiced in many parts of the Muslim world?

Mu`awiyah bin Murrah, "I lived during the time of seventy of the Companions of Muhammad, sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam, and had they lived among you today, they would not recognize any of your acts except the Adhan!"
[Hilyat al Awliya 2/299]

[lovespellszz]

Sometimes I wonder if 'Umar (ra) somehow appeared in this day and age, would he even be able to recognize Islam as it is being practiced in many parts of the Muslim world?

Salam 'Aleykum,



Brother can you please explain that which is in your signature?