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Old 03-24-2012, 04:45 AM   #1
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Default The ex FBI informant with a change of heart- 'There is no real hunt. It's fixed'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

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Old 03-24-2012, 05:43 AM   #2
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Craig Monteilh says he did not balk when his FBI handlers gave him the OK to have sex with the Muslim women his undercover operation was targeting. Nor, at the time, did he shy away from recording their pillow talk.

"They said, if it would enhance the intelligence, go ahead and have sex. So I did," Monteilh told the Guardian as he described his year as a confidential FBI informant sent on a secret mission to infiltrate southern Californian mosques. I feel sick.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:47 AM   #3
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Craig Monteilh says he did not balk when his FBI handlers gave him the OK to have sex with the Muslim women his undercover operation was targeting. Nor, at the time, did he shy away from recording their pillow talk.

"They said, if it would enhance the intelligence, go ahead and have sex. So I did," Monteilh told the Guardian as he described his year as a confidential FBI informant sent on a secret mission to infiltrate southern Californian mosques. I dont think the media is going to make a hype about this and I feel as if every Muslim should read this report so any ideas how we can spread this?
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:58 AM   #4
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I dont think the media is going to make a hype about this and I feel as if every Muslim should read this report so any ideas how we can spread this?


Email the article/link to people you know, bring it up in conversation with your colleagues/friends/fellow students/family, tweet it (if you use twitter)

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Old 03-24-2012, 06:02 AM   #5
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These are the same hypocrites that defame us on women rights.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:17 AM   #6
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Yeah, but this should also make us wonder why a Muslim woman would even talk to a stranger in the first place, let alone commit zina. To all the people who think that hijab is a thing of the past, that just interacting with ghayr mahram is no big deal, what do you say about this?
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:28 AM   #7
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This creep could be lying...where's the proof at.People need to stop jumping to conclusions.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #8
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Lets get one thing straight- Zina is wrong both for men and women.
We all hear the line "women that are not dressed properly are like a cat shown raw meat" but that does not give any man the right to go out and lure women into zina. The women of our ummah are like pearls and jewels but infinite time more worth in value. If we do not worry for them then who will? There are many things that i want to express but i am too upset therefore i may write again later.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:43 AM   #9
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Lets get one thing straight- Zina is wrong both for men and women.
We all hear the line "women that are not dressed properly are like a cat shown raw meat" but that does not give any man the right to go out and lure women into zina. The women of our ummah are like pearls and jewels but infinite time more worth in value. If we do not worry for them then who will? There are many things that i want to express but i am too upset therefore i may write again later.
I don't know if your post is in response to mine, but when I say hijab, I am referring to both men and women.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:45 AM   #10
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I don't know if your post is in response to mine, but when I say hijab, I am referring to both men and women.
Its not, you are right in that Muslims shouldn't be committing zina anyway.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:47 AM   #11
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Lets get one thing straight- Zina is wrong both for men and women.
We all hear the line "women that are not dressed properly are like a cat shown raw meat" but that does not give any man the right to go out and lure women into zina. The women of our ummah are like pearls and jewels but infinite time more worth in value. If we do not worry for them then who will? There are many things that i want to express but i am too upset therefore i may write again later.
And brother you should feel this way...JazakAllah kyran.But this creep could be lying like the dog that he is to make Muslims look bad.Or he came into contact with women who are Muslims in name only.If he seduce some naive innocent sisters Allah will deal with his behind.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:50 AM   #12
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And brother you should feel this way...JazakAllah kyran.But this creep could be lying like the dog that he is to make Muslims look bad.Or he came into contact with women who are Muslims in name only.If he seduce some naive innocent sisters Allah will deal with his behind.
No doubt he could be lying but these things are know to be happening. Just have a look at the thread about Zionist spies marrying Muslim women undercover.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #13
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Or he came into contact with women who are Muslims in name only.
I have a feeling you may be right there. Many of these sisters may have family who a religious and these spies may use that as blackmail later, or because they lack in Islamic knowledge he could be twisting their mind around. Like trying to present pre-marital relationships as halal(nauzubillah). But the fact that these sisters may be sinful does not take away the fact that these kuffar have robbed us of our honor.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:07 AM   #14
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I have a feeling you may be right there. Many of these sisters may have family who a religious and these spies may use that as blackmail later, or because they lack in Islamic knowledge he could be twisting their mind around. Like trying to present pre-marital relationships as halal(nauzubillah). But the fact that these sisters may be sinful does not take away the fact that these kuffar have robbed us of our honor.
Yes, this guy could just be making things up to sensationalize his story. Anyway, we are the ones who have let the kuffar rob us of our honor. The previous generation didn't bother to teach their kids Islam, so they have no one to blame but themselves.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:07 PM   #15
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This creep could be lying...where's the proof at.People need to stop jumping to conclusions.


Did you read the entire article?
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:13 PM   #16
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Did you read the entire article?
السلام عليكم
I'm not sure what you mean exactly, I think it would of been a lot more beneficial if you continued with your post by writing "because..........."

I think the sisters reaction is quite normal and every muslim would naturally reject the notion of a non muslim claiming to of seduced muslim women, I know the man is now claiming to of had a change of heart and Inshallah he becomes guided although the beginning of that article definitely wasn't easy to read والله المستعان

Edit: Brother AbdulWahab I now think I understand why you wrote that having read the comments on page 2 Jazkallah Khairan
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:06 PM   #17
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This man is a creep and lies his way around things. Knowing that, there's no point entertaining his claims about Muslim sisters - whether they practice or not.

He is his own witness to his credibility.

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Old 03-24-2012, 07:29 PM   #18
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Actually, I'd be more suspicious of this being an ongoing effort (not saying it is, just saying it would be more likely that than his claims).

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Old 03-24-2012, 08:37 PM   #19
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This man is a creep and lies his way around things. Knowing that, there's no point entertaining his claims about Muslim sisters - whether they practice or not.

He is his own witness to his credibility.

well said ,sister

w alilkum assalam
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:28 PM   #20
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Just look at his face... the only way someone would consider zina with him is if he paid for it.

I thought the article (since it's from a mainstream source) would be helpful in showing people how this whole terrorism thing is blown out of proportion

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