[dWSOj26H]

Hmmm... don't we have better things to discuss like..... this.

or like this

[Axxflcaj]

I can't really see the problem with this.

£7 Million is too much???

Do people know how much kuffar government/organisations spend on construction especially in the UK?

This is a quote from the telegraph regarding the London Aquatics Centre:
"In the bid book the aquatics centre was costed at £72 million, but architectural consultants are understood to have advised the Government that £150 million was more appropriate."

how much does an average house cost these days in London? Extrapolate that upto a building that needs to hold thousands, plus other facilities to comply with planning laws, Think of the cost of buying the land, i'm thinking the mosque in question must only be a small-medium size. But either way it's money well spent.

It is true the 7 million could have gone to orphans, but it could have also gone to widows, it could have also gone to poor families in Africa, or maybe poor families in Pakistan or maybe poor families in China.

But the truth is the mosque committee asked for donations in the name of building a mosque and people gave freely in the name of allah because they wanted this facility in their area. now this does not imply that they didn't give to any other cause than this. BILLIONS went to causes in various muslims countries to Aid orphans, poor etc.. how many Millions of this was contributed by muslims? Many.

That 7 million isn't money down the drain, it is money spent wisely, anyone who uses the facilities of the mosque, the sawab will go to the contributors, until the end of time. it also means the muslims of the area have an asset worth maybe £10 million.

Please don't criticise people for doing a good cause. If the money should have really gone to orphans tell me which orphans should it have gone to? the ones in pakistan? the ones in Ethiopia? South Africa? China? UK? USA? Brazil? which ones?

Only Allah and his prophet(pbuh) know better

[mashabox]

or like this

This one is much serious. I shall not mind a thread on that.

On the topic of this thread : I think sister has made her point and others too have given their view - and that is it.

[ScosyGissiok]

or like this

This is something everyone should read and be aware of.

It is really disgusting and scary that creeps like this take advantage of any person, let alone fellow Muslims; taking advantage of their genuine generosity and openness. As if that wasn't enough, he then shamelessly goes around talking about some aspects of his 'stint' as a spy. What people do for money (and money they could live without at that) shocks and [infuriates] me.

May Allah (SWT) protect us all from such abuse. Ameen.

[tsaaapla]

This one is much serious. I shall not mind a thread on that.

On the topic of this thread : I think sister has made her point and others too have given their view - and that is it.

I don't think that's for you to decide.

[Qeiafib]

I can't really see the problem with this.

£7 Million is too much???

how much does an average house cost these days in London? Extrapolate that upto a building that needs to hold thousands, plus other facilities to comply with planning laws, Think of the cost of buying the land, i'm thinking the mosque in question must only be a small-medium size. But either way it's money well spent.

Only Allah and his prophet(pbuh) know better

Yeah...I just followed the link in OPs facebook thread to a gallery and description of the masjid. From the looks of it, it's a large building and apparently contains the following facilities:

Prayer halls
Mortuary
Library
Car park
Multi-functional halls (for educational and social purposes)
Commercial kitchen facilities
Retail units
IT suites
Health clinic; and
Facilities for the elderly and disabled http://www.harrowmosque.org.uk/building.html

I know a little something about contracting work. Trust me, 7 million is not an unreasonable cost for these kinds of amenities which are important for the community. The major portion of that sum is not being spent on the crescent or the minaret. It's going to the cost of building permits, the architect's fees, concrete, wood, bricks, mortar, sheetrock, plumbing, boilers/furnaces, hot water heaters, electrical work, insulation, windows, ventilation system, not to mention the cost of labor and operating costs for machinery. Then there is of course the cost of whatever you put in there, like appliances, etc.

From the pictures, I don't see any "israf". I doubt the little crescent on top is made of gold; it's probably brass or some alloy. I don't really see any excessive ornamentation in the photos. Marble flooring is not wasteful, especially in a high-traffic area. And anyway, I can't tell for sure from the photos, but it looks more like granite than marble. In any case, stone is much more practical than other materials...it's longer lasting, more durable, easier to clean. Most of the floors look like they are carpeted anyway. Would you rather they put down some cheap vinyl, so that it has to be replaced every two years?

From the looks of it, the people in charge of this important project know what they are doing,

Like I said, I really don't see any excessive decoration. Some decoration is not uncalled for. If you are really opposed to any and all decoration, then you need to ask yourself, do you personally spend your income on only the bare necessities of life and give the rest in charity?

[mashabox]

I don't think that's for you to decide.

Err... As you wish my sister.

[viagraman]

I know a little something about contracting work. Trust me, 7 million is not an unreasonable cost for these kinds of amenities which are important for the community. The major portion of that sum is not being spent on the crescent or the minaret. It's going to the cost of building permits, the architect's fees, concrete, wood, bricks, mortar, sheetrock, plumbing, boilers/furnaces, hot water heaters, electrical work, insulation, windows, ventilation system, not to mention the cost of labor and operating costs for machinery. Then there is of course the cost of whatever you put in there, like appliances, etc.

And if these things are faulty, then everyone makes a big fuss.

How many times we hear about leaky faucets, bad drainage, bad insulation, smelly carpets etc.

Seems like a lot of facilities . Reminds me of the Nugget Masjid in Scarborough (not sure of its real name, it's know as Nugget). They had a proper school as well.