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Old 03-22-2012, 04:12 PM   #1
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Women in Islam are allowed to go out for their needs. What does this mean?
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #2
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #3
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You seem to have a lot of questions . I would suggest you contact a proper scholar and ask them.

Meanwhile, instead of creating a new thread, I will suggest using the search function, as there are already threads on the subjects you are questioning about.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:36 PM   #4
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The Women is the Home Winner. The Husband is the Bread Maker
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #5
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:06 PM   #6
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:44 PM   #7
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to buy bread, not win it.
But you know, Islam is flexible enough to allow for families to adopt to adverse circumstances.

Do we truly want only male doctors and nurses to administer care for women?
Or male police to handle female detainees?
Or male janitors to clean female restrooms?
Or male "nannies" to assist our wives in caring children?

Imagine that- a male nanny?

I rather like the idea of a female only taxi service, which is now in such demand in the UAE that it is routinely over booked. Egypt is in desperate need for a female only taxi service, as many women suffer sexual harassment from public transportation and ride sharing. In fact, if I had the resources, I would invest in a female only taxi service for Egypt, .
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:19 AM   #8
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You seem to have a lot of questions . I would suggest you contact a proper scholar and ask them.

Meanwhile, instead of creating a new thread, I will suggest using the search function, as there are already threads on the subjects you are questioning about.
Salaam sister, The intention of these questions is related to observing opinion rather than seeking knowledge. wwith all due respect I very am aware I can ask an Alim and makes references to Quran and Hadith. However my threads are related to research.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:33 AM   #9
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In the near future there may be a situation in which I will be forced to work to help the financial situation of my family. I normally would not work nor would my parents allow this, but there is no choice.

The job I will have will be in a cashier’s job in a store. The store is owned by an old Muslim man. There is no dress code so I’ll be able to wear my niqaab. I won’t be interacting with men unless someone comes to the cash, or when I am in training.

There is no other job at the moment but this one. Is it permissible for me to work in this case?

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In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh.

We are in receipt of your email and note its contents.

Islam gives complete guidelines for all walks of life. Allah establishes the pristine position of women honoring them great respect. Allah Ta’ala says,

وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَى...

And remain in your homes and do not emerge like those of Jāhiliyyah (Pre-islamic era)…

Qur’ān 33:33


The above verse is the basic injunction for women to secure them from all the vice and malice that may come their way.

Earning ones livelihood is an integral part of life. Poverty is one of the vital tools of Shaytān to dissuade servants of Allah from the right path. In this regard Islam presented a balanced approach to earning livelihood. However, Allah levied this duty of catering to the needs of the family upon men. This is one of the reasons Allah has given males a degree above women, so that they may be able to look after their subordinates. Allah says,

لِلرِّجَالِ عَلَيْهِنَّ دَرَجَةٌ }البقرة: 228{

…for men is a degree above women…

Qur’ān 2:228


Allah Ta’āla expounds on this higher degree in another verse,



الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ وَبِمَا أَنْفَقُوا مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ }النساء: 34{

Men are the overseer upon women with all that which Allah has bestowed some of them over the others,
and with what they spend from their wealth…

Qur’ān 4:34


Allāma Ibn Kathīr rahmatullah alayh mentions under this verse,

{and with what they spend from their wealth} i.e from the mahr, and the expenses and all that has been made incumbent upon them to cater for their women in Qur’ān and Sunnah of Rasulullah salallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam

(Tafsīr Ibn Kathīr 2/292)[1]

All this goes to secure a woman’s needs and requirements of daily living. If the fathers, husbands or brothers fulfill their duty upon their women then there would be no need for women to seek employment on their own. While this is the principle of Sharī῾ah, we cannot overlook the changing times where even an ardent effort by the males to fulfill the needs of women of the house is often not enough. This has become a norm in western society.

We also keep in mind that Islam does not prohibit a woman from earning her livelihood. This is also a misconception which has become prevalent in our time and age. There is complete disregard for women’s ability to earn for themselves. As long as her endeavor does not violate Shar῾ī laws, there is no barrier for her from taking up an employment.

In view of this, we now address your query. It is important for you to be cognizant whether your emergence from home is necessary in sight of Sharī῾ah or not.

If your father’s earning is not sufficient to support the whole family, then before you resort to take up a job which will make you leave the comfort of your home, we suggest that you look into the industry of home-based employments. There is a very good emerging market for typists, transcribers, virtual assistants and researchers.

If it is not possible for you to make use of such opportunities, and the need to earn a livelihood forces you to search for employment outside, then we advise you to take utmost care of your Shar῾ī duties.

-Do not leave home without proper concealment (hijāb, niqāb). Similarly, choose an employment which will allow you to keep your shar῾ī duties of hijāb and niqāb.
-Limit your interaction, outside the house, to your work. Once your work is finished, revert to your home. Avoid socializing and merry discussions at the workplace.
-Do not intermingle with opposite sex at the work. If your job requires you to deal with male customers, then limit your interaction to the level of necessity. You should do so while keeping your dignity and chastity.
-Arrange your shifts such that you are not left alone with any non-mahram man. If you have to work with the non-mahram supervisor in earlier stage, then arrange one of your mahram to accompany you for that time. However, if you do not have any mahram to accompany then try to limit your solitary interaction as much as possible.
-Deepen your voice so as not to make it feminine or alluring.
-Always keep your gaze in check and be conscious of Allah and His Deen.
-Negotiate your job description clearly from beforehand so that you do not have to compromise on your Deen at a later stage.

And Allah Ta’āla Knows Best

Mawlana Faisal bin Abdul Hameed
Student, Darul Iftaa
Canada

Checked and Approved by,
Mufti Ebrahim Desai.
www.daruliftaa.net


[1] {وَبِمَا أَنْفَقُوا مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ} أَيْ: مِنَ الْمُهُورِ وَالنَّفَقَاتِ وَالْكُلَفِ الَّتِي أَوْجَبَهَا اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ لهنَّ فِي كِتَابِهِ وَسُنَّةِ نَبِيِّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ (تفسير ابن كثير ت سلامة (2/ 292))
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:34 AM   #10
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Ones own opinion counts for nought when Allah has ordered us to ask those of knowledge.

In any case, if you seek opinions, you may still refer to the search facility.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:40 AM   #11
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Salaam sister, The intention of these questions is related to observing opinion rather than seeking knowledge. wwith all due respect I very am aware I can ask an Alim and makes references to Quran and Hadith. However my threads are related to research.


I am a little confused here. If you are conducting some form of observational research, observing SF members' comments, then there are research ethics involved which you would be in violation of.



[Edit: are all of your threads related to a research project? If so, what is the project, who is involved and what institution is it linked to? Also, why haven't you properly informed us of it?]
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:53 AM   #12
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I am a little confused here. If you are conducting some form of observational research, observing SF members' comments, then there are research ethics involved which you would be in violation of.

Excellent point,

But as Muslims are not deserving of ethical standards according to some, lying, deceiving, misleading, antagonizing, Muslims is deemed acceptable by Orientalist, imperialist, and diabolical Nazi like researchers!!!

From my reading, Christian evangelists and Western military personnel in Human Terrain researchers are the most diabolical "researchers" who gain the trust of Muslims. That and teh usual spy.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:53 AM   #13
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I am a little confused here. If you are conducting some form of observational research, observing SF members' comments, then there are research ethics involved which you would be in violation of.



[Edit: are all of your threads related to a research project? If so, what is the project, who is involved and what institution is it linked to? Also, why haven't you properly informed us of it?]
Ditto, I too am concerned. Personal research or ?what kind of research.
There are proper persons to ask, and scholars from a variety of different opinions.
Best not to ask the lay person. Myself included.

Anyone feeling like they've been violated lately on sunniforum? By random people asking random questions.

I'd like to delete all my posts now.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:17 AM   #14
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Unfortunately, this type of meddling is unavoidable on open forums where most of us don't know each other - even by first name. So, it is always good to keep that in the back of your mind when you read anything or respond to anything here. It is an excellent wholesome opportunity for those who are genuinely here for Islam, to learn, to feel a sense of community etc. but remember that it is also an opportunity for others who don't have the same intentions.

That said, it doesn't necessarily mean the OP of these threads is dishonest... no, I just need some clarification since her/their threads are going through the same filter in my mind. And, I apologize to the OP if I've caused her/them any distress with my questions.

On other threads (not related to this OP), I have wondered if there is trolling going on - people with too much time on their hands and not enough going on in their lives who get a kick out of starting debates and then disappearing. There are much more serious ones that I'd rather not voice here but suffice it to say that the tone and delivery of some threads leads me to be very cautious and worried.

It takes a little while to get the pace here but once you do, the experience is very pleasant and beneficial (once you know what to avoid and steer clear of). I can't help but be worried about others though. Thank Allah (SWT) for our moderators!

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Old 03-23-2012, 03:36 AM   #15
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Salaam sister, The intention of these questions is related to observing opinion rather than seeking knowledge. wwith all due respect I very am aware I can ask an Alim and makes references to Quran and Hadith. However my threads are related to research.
rhetorical questions inspiring thought
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:54 AM   #16
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:04 AM   #17
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Unfortunately, this type of meddling is unavoidable on open forums where most of us don't know each other - even by first name. So, it is always good to keep that in the back of your mind when you read anything or respond to anything here. It is an excellent wholesome opportunity for those who are genuinely here for Islam, to learn, to feel a sense of community etc. but remember that it is also an opportunity for others who don't have the same intentions.

That said, it doesn't necessarily mean the OP of these threads is dishonest... no, I just need some clarification since her/their threads are going through the same filter in my mind. And, I apologize to the OP if I've caused her/them any distress with my questions.

On other threads (not related to this OP), I have wondered if there is trolling going on - people with too much time on their hands and not enough going on in their lives who get a kick out of starting debates and then disappearing. There are much more serious ones that I'd rather not voice here but suffice it to say that the tone and delivery of some threads leads me to be very cautious and worried.

It takes a little while to get the pace here but once you do, the experience is very pleasant and beneficial (once you know what to avoid and steer clear of). I can't help but be worried about others though. Thank Allah (SWT) for our moderators!

Salaam Sis Acacia

I apologise too, if I came across as impolite in my post too. I think I felt quite conscious and was suddenly reminded of the fact that, yes, we are in a completely public space, even though we are trying to be as helpful as possible. And was worried about my own recent posts being adequate. Hence my absence from the boards for long time.

Ps love your signature.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:41 AM   #18
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its too personal brother
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:48 AM   #19
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But you know, Islam is flexible enough to allow for families to adopt to adverse circumstances.

Do we truly want only male doctors and nurses to administer care for women?
Or male police to handle female detainees?
Or male janitors to clean female restrooms?
Or male "nannies" to assist our wives in caring children?

Imagine that- a male nanny?

I rather like the idea of a female only taxi service, which is now in such demand in the UAE that it is routinely over booked. Egypt is in desperate need for a female only taxi service, as many women suffer sexual harassment from public transportation and ride sharing. In fact, if I had the resources, I would invest in a female only taxi service for Egypt, .
its better for young women to marry and have children first

when they are mature, their children are grown and as older Muslim ladies they are so much not at risk of zina or harassment etc then for some women working these jobs is of course good,

but you cannot say for every or most Muslim women it is good, because most will be better engaged with the interests of their families
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:51 AM   #20
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Salaam Sis Acacia

I apologise too, if I came across as impolite in my post too. I think I felt quite conscious and was suddenly reminded of the fact that, yes, we are in a completely public space, even though we are trying to be as helpful as possible. And was worried about my own recent posts being adequate. Hence my absence from the boards for long time.

Ps love your signature.
sister

I had the same concerns as you've noted and that's why I added the signature. Sometimes I think I still get ahead of myself and so I've deleted a post (and thread) or two.

I feel like such a newbie now that I've see how long you've been a member,

[Edit: Alhamdulillah, for the reserved areas of the forum.]

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