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Old 11-05-2010, 01:39 PM   #1
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Default Hanafi scholar's books which are taught in ghair muqallid madressa
assalamu alaikum
plz see this link for hanafi schoolar's books wchich are teaching in ger muqallid's one of the biggest madressa in banaras-india
http://www.haqforum.com/vb/threads/1...A8%DB%8C%DA%BA
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:24 PM   #2
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intresting, what exactly are ger makaliddin gaining by teaching our books? hmmmmm
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:31 PM   #3
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intresting, what exactly are ger makaliddin gaining by teaching our books? hmmmmm
asalaamualaikum

they r gaining knowledge how to make new FITNA
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:53 PM   #4
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asalaamualaikum

they r gaining knowledge how to make new FITNA
May ALLAH save the ummah
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:32 PM   #5
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Reminds me one of the popular urdu proverb

jis thali me khata hai usi me ched karta hai saala
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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can anyone guess what is the intention?
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:45 PM   #7
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can anyone guess what is the intention?
There is no doubt that the books which are a part of their curriculum are those which they consider important for the education of their students. Since the Ahl Hadith school is a relatively undeveloped school and its scholars have been few, they need to fill their empty spaces with the books of the Hanafis and Shafi'is. I believe that later on they will copy the material in the named books under the name of one of their recent scholars and remove them. They also study Hanafi books of fiqh in order to find 'mistakes' in them. WS.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:10 PM   #8
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There is no doubt that the books which are a part of their curriculum are those which they consider important for the education of their students. Since the Ahl Hadith school is a relatively undeveloped school and its scholars have been few, they need to fill their empty spaces with the books of the Hanafis and Shafi'is. I believe that later on they will copy the material in the named books under the name of one of their recent scholars and remove them. They also study Hanafi books of fiqh in order to find 'mistakes' in them. WS.
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may be you are right, but i fell there will be something more. Only Allah knows best. in my area now many people gathered in their mosque to hear their khutba & bayan. After few days people make a habit to join with them in salah regularly. They collected few hanafi books ( specially i know Hidaya) and make criticize of this book. Most effective thing i saw people who was a mukallid of hanafi, now a member of them, they used them with this books to make a criticize ! & many other people think to believe it.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:57 PM   #9
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They are probably teaching it as it is an islamic book. this is the problem when people do not look at each other as muslim but as i am from such and such manhaj/maslak. One of the worst sins is suspicions.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:44 PM   #10
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They are probably teaching it as it is an islamic book. this is the problem when people do not look at each other as muslim but as i am from such and such manhaj/maslak. One of the worst sins is suspicions.
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Brother very good talk.
If a muslim getting help from other muslim, we don't see who is getting reward, we see he is taking from me!


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Old 11-05-2010, 07:49 PM   #11
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As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Brother very good talk.
If a muslim getting help from other muslim, we don't see who is getting reward, we see he is taking from me!


salam
Ha ha ha.... Look who is here. We are very happy to know that Salafi madaris cannot get along without our books. But we dont trust their intentions.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:31 PM   #12
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They are probably teaching it as it is an islamic book.
nope its well known, they teach hanafi kitaabs to find mistakes. you really dont know sub-continet AH.when you generalize sub-continet AH with one title or charecter, you are not doing unjustice, believe me.
can anyone guess what is the intention?
yep, you can when their action speaks louder than words.its not since yesterday they started to learn hanafi books, how can you critisize ones book, if you dont read it!
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:25 PM   #13
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I would have them all imprisoned until they became Hanafis :P ...not that i have anything against other Madhabs but their attack on Hanafiya is the most severe, Hence the punishment. Make them wear shalwar Kameez, or whatever they wanna wear saying Proud to be a Hanafi, and make sure they pray like Hanafis, and then make them give small bayans in gatherings about Hanafi Madhab and its Dalail. That would be one punishment :P

There is one more thing i have noticed, one will not find Nur on their faces, i dont know if its just me, but i find it hard to see any light on their faces, like the ones you find on Ulama, I saw Habib Ali Al Jafri, SubhanAllah, his face emits light literally. Yvonne Ridley met an Alim in prison and she said his face emitted light, and some tableeghis have this as well, ofcourse Mujahideen have it. But Alhe Hadeeth and Shia, not a chance, well not that i have seen atleast

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Old 11-05-2010, 11:40 PM   #14
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I would have them all imprisoned until they became Hanafis :P ...not that i have anything against other Madhabs but their attack on Hanafiya is the most severe, Hence the punishment. Make them wear shalwar Kameez, or whatever they wanna wear saying Proud to be a Hanafi, and make sure they pray like Hanafis, and then make them give small bayans in gatherings about Hanafi Madhab and its Dalail. That would be one punishment :P
Have them read and write outta Fadhali A'maal.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:48 PM   #15
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I would have them all imprisoned until they became Hanafis :P ...not that i have anything against other Madhabs but their attack on Hanafiya is the most severe, Hence the punishment. Make them wear shalwar Kameez, or whatever they wanna wear saying Proud to be a Hanafi, and make sure they pray like Hanafis, and then make them give small bayans in gatherings about Hanafi Madhab and its Dalail. That would be one punishment :P
they will be able to swallow poison, but not face above punishment.

There is one more thing i have noticed, one will not find Nur on their faces, i dont know if its just me
because your heart isnt clean about them, thats why you dont see any noor inn their face
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Old 11-06-2010, 12:10 AM   #16
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because your heart isnt clean about them, thats why you dont see any noor inn their face
I dont know Akhi but i can literally sometimes tell a Shia from a Non shia just by their faces, and i am not talking about Pakistan here. Even in Canada when i do Dawah on the streets every sunday and i come across some shia, you can literally feel it. I guess my Shia sensors are very sensitive :P

I have seen a few Ahle Hadeeth preachers like Tauseef ur rehman and Miraj rabbani and a few others....I dont see nur on their faces, especially GM's of Pakistan, i know 2-3 from Isna and one can see nur on their face. I guess its just me
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Old 11-06-2010, 12:20 AM   #17
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I have seen a few Ahle Hadeeth preachers like Tauseef ur rehman and Miraj rabbani and a few others....I dont see nur on their faces
Even if you see, after hearing their lecture, you obviously will no loonger see it, haha
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:47 AM   #18
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there points are baseless, they do not stand for anything.
we people of the ahle sunnat wal jamat live and let live, but these guys propagate their beliefs by criticizing and rediculing others especially the people of the hanafi madhab. I pray to ALLAH that he saves us from their false propoganda.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:38 AM   #19
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I would have them all imprisoned until they became Hanafis :P ...not that i have anything against other Madhabs but their attack on Hanafiya is the most severe, Hence the punishment. Make them wear shalwar Kameez, or whatever they wanna wear saying Proud to be a Hanafi, and make sure they pray like Hanafis, and then make them give small bayans in gatherings about Hanafi Madhab and its Dalail. That would be one punishment :P

There is one more thing i have noticed, one will not find Nur on their faces, i dont know if its just me, but i find it hard to see any light on their faces, like the ones you find on Ulama, I saw Habib Ali Al Jafri, SubhanAllah, his face emits light literally. Yvonne Ridley met an Alim in prison and she said his face emitted light, and some tableeghis have this as well, ofcourse Mujahideen have it. But Alhe Hadeeth and Shia, not a chance, well not that i have seen atleast

Allah knows Best
The greatest punishment that I can think for them is to tie the green turbans of the Sunni Dawat-e-Islami on their heads and force them to listen to all the bayans of the Barelwis in their ijtemas.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:47 AM   #20
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I dnt know that what benefit you will get from studying books like the great comentary of mukhtasir qudoori called hidaya, just to ridicule and criticize later on. really i personally have no problems with ghair muqalideen untill they start accusing and ridiculing the ahlus sunnat.
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