[Domovoy]

Now we all know that the Assad Regime is to be blamed for much. but could Assad have at least been telling the truth about their being a foreign presence in Syria (maybe in the initial stages of the revolt)?

A USA/Israeli presence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuWItcSRrM8

why are there so many people who strongly support Assad just as much as there are people who strongly hate Assad?

[Zjohkrbi]

It seems that the CIA and Mossad have it hands in every evil that happens on the planet.

[seodiary]

No its only your imagination.

/close thread.

[Zjohkrbi]

No its only your imagination.

/close thread.

I don't understand your comment.

[elektikaka]

Salam 'Aleykum,

Whether there is or there isn't a foreign political intervention, whether there are local fighters or foreign fighters, whether the foreign intervention is supporting the revolt for the sake of the people or for the sake of their own goals, whether the foreign intervention is Israeli, Iranian, Russian or Japanese... The fact is that this ruler does not fear Allah and must be removed cannot be changed.

[Zjohkrbi]

Salam 'Aleykum,

Whether there is or there isn't a foreign political intervention, whether there are local fighters or foreign fighters, whether the foreign intervention is supporting the revolt for the sake of the people or for the sake of their own goals, whether the foreign intervention is Israeli, Iranian, Russian or Japanese... The fact is that this ruler does not fear Allah and must be removed cannot be changed.

I agree but if Mossad and the CIA is involve which most likely they are...it will just be another puppet tyrant like Asad.

Wa Salaam

[Cogebrego]

No its only your imagination.

/close thread.

an answer of beautiful symmetry and logic

[elektikaka]

I agree but if Mossad and the CIA is involve which most likely they are...it will just be another puppet tyrant like Asad.

Wa Salaam

Not necessarily, it depends on who the people vote for. What if they decide to elect the Islamists (If Bashar left any Islamists alive in Syria).

[Domovoy]

if it is true, then this may coincide with what Michael Scheuer was saying about Syria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE
Note: RussiaTV however is Pro-Assad. and im not sure how reliable Michael Scheuer is.

but still i don't think this battle is completely Black & White. perhaps this situation is more complex then we may know. Allah knows best.
i hope someone from Syria can also respond.

The fact is that this ruler does not fear Allah and must be removed ...

True, but what ruler is alive today and fears Allah?

[pavilionnotebook]

True, but what ruler is alive today and fears Allah?

Does that make not fearing Allah the right thing? No.

[unapelosina]

brother there are certain rulers who are better than others. They cannot be all categorized under 1 banner. No matter what anybody says about Saudi Arabia it has a ruler who at least pays lip service to islam and allows certain religious freedoms. Compare this to Syria where the dog bashar al assad has been insulting islam, banning hijab, torturing those with beards etc etc. Bashar al assad is an alawi dog and thus not a muslim to begin with so the issue of takfir does not come into it as he was already a kafir. If you know anything about Syria it is probably the most anti-islamic regime in the whole of the middle east.

[mas-dkt-sive]

brother there are certain rulers who are better than others. They cannot be all categorized under 1 banner. No matter what anybody says about Saudi Arabia it has a ruler who at least pays lip service to islam and allows certain religious freedoms. Compare this to Syria where the dog bashar al assad has been insulting islam, banning hijab, torturing those with beards etc etc. Bashar al assad is an alawi dog and thus not a muslim to begin with so the issue of takfir does not come into it as he was already a kafir. If you know anything about Syria it is probably the most anti-islamic regime in the whole of the middle east.

so knowing this where was the muslim ummah for the past few decades and what were tge syrian muslims doing upto now.

To the kuffar, assad is a muslim, they are picking out the weak ones first, don,t forget guys, who installed these leaders/dynasties? And why would the same people let an islamic type government into power?

[unapelosina]

The kuffar also know Asad is not a muslim. We know the kuffar installed these dynasties and obviously the kuffar don't want an islamic government but sometimes we give the kuffar powers too much credit. They are not hazir and nazir. They are not ALLAH. They cannot do anything without HIS permission. Brother you cannot blame the Syrian muslims. If you know how much the kuffar alawi regime has done to suppress Islam you would be surprised that there are people who still uphold religion in Syria. The ummah is awakening and we should make a lot of dua. These tyrants like ghaddafi, asad, ben ali, mubarak did their best to wipe out islam from the people but ALLAH taught them a lesson. There is inshallah great hope that the regimes who come into power in the near future inshallah shall be better than the tyrants I have mentioned. I mean Ben Ali the dog banned hijab, ghadafi stopped muslims from going to a masjid too often (fajr was especially a problem), the pharoah Mubarak kept on insulting islam etc etc.

[mas-dkt-sive]

The kuffar also know Asad is not a muslim. We know the kuffar installed these dynasties and obviously the kuffar don't want an islamic government but sometimes we give the kuffar powers too much credit. They are not hazir and nazir. They are not ALLAH. They cannot do anything without HIS permission. Brother you cannot blame the Syrian muslims. If you know how much the kuffar alawi regime has done to suppress Islam you would be surprised that there are people who still uphold religion in Syria. The ummah is awakening and we should make a lot of dua. These tyrants like ghaddafi, asad, ben ali, mubarak did their best to wipe out islam from the people but ALLAH taught them a lesson. There is inshallah great hope that the regimes who come into power in the near future inshallah shall be better than the tyrants I have mentioned. I mean Ben Ali the dog banned hijab, ghadafi stopped muslims from going to a masjid too often (fajr was especially a problem), the pharoah Mubarak kept on insulting islam etc etc.

the danger is that the two sides may turn out to be two sides of the same coin, and this gives the kuffar another foothold in the land of the arabs. Where are the other arabs? Forget the rulers, i mean the everyday muslim sitting, sipping on his seesah in say jordan.

[unapelosina]

brother I agree with you that it COULD give the kuffar a foothold....or it could turn out like Egypt where inshallah there is hope that people better than Mubarak shall take over inshallah. We need to make dua at this time for these countries. With regards to Arabs why just them? How about the millions of pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis. With regards to the everyday Muslim he should try his best to do something positive...instead of looking at the guy smoking sheesah in Jordan let us look at ourselves...what have we done. Let me speak for myself I have done nothing so far....

[mas-dkt-sive]

brother I agree with you that it COULD give the kuffar a foothold....or it could turn out like Egypt where inshallah there is hope that people better than Mubarak shall take over inshallah. We need to make dua at this time for these countries. With regards to Arabs why just them? How about the millions of pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis. With regards to the everyday Muslim he should try his best to do something positive...instead of looking at the guy smoking sheesah in Jordan let us look at ourselves...what have we done. Let me speak for myself I have done nothing so far....

there are alot of muslims who can,t do anything except pray, and we do duas for them. But, i,m not trying to pass the buck, why do we as an ummah always wait fir the kuffar to"help" our fellow muslims when in need. Arab countries are best in place to exert pressure on their leaders to do something, pakistan has local problems of its own e.g. Afghanistan and kashmir. Plys how many countries would it have to through to get to syria? Whereas jorsan can go straight in.

[picinaRefadia]

Now we all know that the Assad Regime is to be blamed for much. but could Assad have at least been telling the truth about their being a foreign presence in Syria (maybe in the initial stages of the revolt)?

So what?

Even then, he's a ba'athis 'alawi kafir which MUST be removed and his regime destroyed.

why are there so many people who strongly support Assad just as much as there are people who strongly hate Assad?

Because they are kuffar.
Even Hitler at the beginning had a whole nation supporting him, was he right? Numbers don't give right.

[picinaRefadia]

The kuffar also know Asad is not a muslim. We know the kuffar installed these dynasties and obviously the kuffar don't want an islamic government but sometimes we give the kuffar powers too much credit. They are not hazir and nazir. They are not ALLAH. They cannot do anything without HIS permission.

Barakallahu fik.

[entaifsfets]

Now we all know that the Assad Regime is to be blamed for much. but could Assad have at least been telling the truth about their being a foreign presence in Syria (maybe in the initial stages of the revolt)?

A USA/Israeli presence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuWItcSRrM8

why are there so many people who strongly support Assad just as much as there are people who strongly hate Assad?

The situation is complicated. Check this.

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[neotheMit]

the alawis womans are snorkyes,inchallah we will take them as slaves inchallah,snork,and for dar nothing.........da he will dance kallinka with his tovarish