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BISMILLAH

SALAAMS

Are there any scholars of tawwassuf that goes into more details about the unseen in lectures or books?

There seem to be a agreement to keep certain things secret...do anyone have knowledge of why this is?

JazakAllah kyran for responses.

[merloermfgj]

BISMILLAH

SALAAMS

Are there any scholars of tawwassuf that goes into more details about the unseen in lectures or books?

There seem to be a agreement to keep certain things secret...do anyone have knowledge of why this is?

JazakAllah kyran for responses.

The reason why Sufism is a science of experience, which cannot be read it books... And we are speaking about the fruits of the path....

The best analogy that I can give you, is how do you explain color to a blind person??? You can't, it is something they have to experience to appreciate... So when the sufis speak of secret knowledge it is only secret in the sense, that only those who experience will understand it, if you are unable to experience it, then it will remain a secret until you are able to experience it...

And Allah knows best.

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The reason why Sufism is a science of experience, which cannot be read it books... And we are speaking about the fruits of the path....

The best analogy that I can give you, is how do you explain color to a blind person??? You can't, it is something they have to experience to appreciate... So when the sufis speak of secret knowledge it is only secret in the sense, that only those who experience will understand it, if you are unable to experience it, then it will remain a secret until you are able to experience it...

And Allah knows best.

I understand what you are saying but I feel that much is held back from the majority of Muslims and I don't fully understand why.Sometimes one get bits and pieces in certain books by the Walis of Allah[saints] but it leads one wanting more.

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Do anyone know of any Scholars that goes into more indepth knowledge about the unseen...right now I am feeling very dissatified with information i sometimes get,and this can lead a person to look for answers and insight elsewhere.
It seems many are satisfied with what seems to me sometimes insignificant matters..that's not enough for me.

I mean no offense but that's how I feel.

JazakAllah kyran.

[Sheestgag]

Assalam alaikum
I agree with brother Untold truth that the experiences of tasswuf cannot be explained through literal explanations which is why there is a need for a shaikh the reason there is a need for secrecy is because experiences of tasswuf cannot be explained through a checklist manner there is a need for personal guidance and indepth knowledge which cannot be attained through books.
From my personal experience the most in depth literature on tassawuf I have studied are the Maktubat of the Imam-e-Rabbani Hazrat Mujaddid Alif Sani rehmatullah alahay but I could not understand 90% of it until I gave bayat to my sheikh.
I hope I have been of some use to you,please forgive for any error
Your brother in Islam

[Wheldcobchoto]

Assalam alaikum
I agree with brother Untold truth that the experiences of tasswuf cannot be explained through literal explanations which is why there is a need for a shaikh the reason there is a need for secrecy is because experiences of tasswuf cannot be explained through a checklist manner there is a need for personal guidance and indepth knowledge which cannot be attained through books.
From my personal experience the most in depth literature on tassawuf I have studied are the Maktubat of the Imam-e-Rabbani Hazrat Mujaddid Alif Sani rehmatullah alahay but I could not understand 90% of it until I gave bayat to my sheikh.
I hope I have been of some use to you,please forgive for any error
Your brother in Islam

JazakAllah kyran Brother

[merloermfgj]

Do anyone know of any Scholars that goes into more indepth knowledge about the unseen...right now I am feeling very dissatified with information i sometimes get,and this can lead a person to look for answers and insight elsewhere.
It seems many are satisfied with what seems to me sometimes insignificant matters..that's not enough for me.

I mean no offense but that's how I feel.

JazakAllah kyran.

I wish I knew exactly what you are looking for... The books of sufism require knowing the terminology to understand in order to benefit from some of its spiritual knowledge.

The basic research by ibn Ajiba is good...

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I wish I knew exactly what you are looking for... The books of sufism require knowing the terminology to understand in order to benefit from some of its spiritual knowledge.

The basic research by ibn Ajiba is good...

JazakAllah kyran brother.

Ibn Ajiba talks about 'The Oneness of Existence'
And I have run across this kind of language before in sufi books...if possible could you tell me exactly what this means.I am somewhat confused by it,because the Qur'an says about Allah,there is none like unto Him but some sufis [not all] seem to be suggesting something else.Maybe due to my lack of knowledge in these areas I am misunderstanding something,or have some sufis went astray.

[merloermfgj]

JazakAllah kyran brother.

Ibn Ajiba talks about 'The Oneness of Existence'
And I have run across this kind of language before in sufi books...if possible could you tell me exactly what this means.I am somewhat confused by it,because the Qur'an says about Allah,there is none like unto Him but some sufis [not all] seem to be suggesting something else.Maybe due to my lack of knowledge in these areas I am misunderstanding something,or have some sufis went astray.

Behind everything in existence, Allah is the Doer.

Or one could say, in reality the only thing that exist, is Allah, His Attributes, His Actions and His Rulings...

Alot of people misunderstand this and think the sufis are saying Allah is everything or that Allah indwells in creation... None of this is true and contradicts the creed of the Muslims... Eventhough you may here Sufis and Muslims saying Allah is everywhere... It is not to be take literally but with the understanding that behind everything, Allah is the Doer.

And Allah knows best.

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I was flipping through some of my books...

I was trying to find some books that might interest you.

Realities of Sufism by Shaykh Abd al Qadir Isa
The Removal of Cares by Abdul Qadir Jilani
The Basic Research by Ibn Ajiba
The Darqawi Way by Darqawi
Music of the Soul by Shaykh Muhammad Al Jamal

Of the books that I think you will benefit the most from is probably the last two... But they all of stuff of the unseen.... And the last two books seem kind of random, in that it jumps around alot.

I hope that helps...

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I was flipping through some of my books...

I was trying to find some books that might interest you.

Realities of Sufism by Shaykh Abd al Qadir Isa
The Removal of Cares by Abdul Qadir Jilani
The Basic Research by Ibn Ajiba
The Darqawi Way by Darqawi
Music of the Soul by Shaykh Muhammad Al Jamal

Of the books that I think you will benefit the most from is probably the last two... But they all of stuff of the unseen.... And the last two books seem kind of random, in that it jumps around alot.

I hope that helps...

These will go on my booklist of books to read...JazakAllah kyran brother.Truly appreciated.