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Old 11-22-2011, 03:52 AM   #1
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An Italian radio program’s story about Iceland’s on-going revolution is a stunning example of how little our media tells us about the rest of the world. Americans may remember that at the start of the 2008 financial crisis, Iceland literally went bankrupt. The reasons were mentioned only in passing, and since then, this little-known member of the European Union fell back into oblivion.

As one European country after another fails or risks failing, imperiling the Euro, with repercussions for the entire world, the last thing the powers that be want is for Iceland to become an example. Here’s why:

Five years of a pure neo-liberal regime had made Iceland, (population 320 thousand, no army), one of the richest countries in the world. In 2003 all the country’s banks were privatized, and in an effort to attract foreign investors, they offered on-line banking whose minimal costs allowed them to offer relatively high rates of return. The accounts, called IceSave, attracted many English and Dutch small investors. But as investments grew, so did the banks’ foreign debt. In 2003 Iceland’s debt was equal to 200 times its GNP, but in 2007, it was 900 percent. The 2008 world financial crisis was the coup de grace. The three main Icelandic banks, Landbanki, Kapthing and Glitnir, went belly up and were nationalized, while the Kroner lost 85% of its value with respect to the Euro. At the end of the year Iceland declared bankruptcy.

Contrary to what could be expected, the crisis resulted in Icelanders recovering their sovereign rights, through a process of direct participatory democracy that eventually led to a new Constitution. But only after much pain
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It Begins? Anti 'Money Power' Lawsuit Filed in Canada ...
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 – by Staff Report

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A press release announces that Canadian constitutional lawyer, Rocco Galati, "on behalf of Canadians William Krehm, and Ann Emmett, and COMER (Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform)" has been filed in Canadian Federal Court, "to restore the use of the Bank of Canada to its original purpose, by exercising its public statutory duty and responsibility." – Rocco Galati Law Firm/ via Rense

Dominant Social Theme: The money system we have now is the best it can be.

Free-Market Analysis: Well, it is finally happening. A legal challenge to the power elite's money system has been launched in a Canadian Court "for the benefit of Canadians ... and to restore the use of the Bank of Canada for the benefit of Canadians. Here's some more from the press release mentioned above:

The action also constitutionally challenges the government's fallacious accounting methods in its tabling of the budget by not calculating nor revealing the true and total revenues of the nation before transferring back "tax credits" to corporations and other taxpayers. The Plaintiffs state that since 1974 there has been a gradual but sure slide into the reality that the Bank of Canada and Canada's monetary and financial policy are dictated by private foreign banks and financial interests contrary to the Bank of Canada Act.

The Plaintiffs state that the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the Financial Stability Forum (FSF) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) were all created with the cognizant intent of keeping poorer nations in their place which has now expanded to all nations in that these financial institutions largely succeed in over-riding governments and constitutional orders in countries such as Canada over which they exert financial control.

The Plaintiffs state that the meetings of the BIS and Financial Stability Board (FSB) (successor of FSF), their minutes, their discussions and deliberations are secret and not available nor accountable to Parliament, the executive, nor the Canadian public notwithstanding that the Bank of Canada policies directly emanate from these meetings. These organizations are essentially private, foreign entities controlling Canada's banking system and socio-economic policies.

Strong stuff. As we've been writing since 2008 now, the current central banking money system is probably finished. It is not finished because it has worked so badly (for most people anyway) but because it is seen as profoundly immoral.

The argument used to be that you needed a central banking system as a lender of last resort. But in practice, people have simply decided that the system is a kind of ruse that protects a certain financial class while leaving everyone else to fend for themselves. You can read two initial articles on this here:

Beginning of the End? Fed Cannot Account for $9 Trillion

Have the Immoral Actions of Central Bankers Precipitated the Decline of the West?

Of course, beyond its immortality and incredible unfairness, the current money system as it operates throughout the West IS illegal; it has been corrupted by the people who run it entirely for their own benefit. Knowing human nature, this is entirely expectable. When individuals are granted a money monopoly, they will inevitably abuse it.

The Canadian plaintiffs make this point as well, stating that officials are "engaged in a conspiracy." They wield a perfectly justifiable broad brush, naming the BIS, FSB and IMF as part of a larger effort to "render impotent the Bank of Canada Act as well as Canadian sovereignty over financial, monetary, and socio-economic policy, and bypass the sovereign rule of Canada ..."

If the lawsuit had stopped there, we'd be all for it. Unfortunately, the announced goal of the lawsuit as expressed by the plaintiffs is to support "making interest free loans to municipal/provincial/federal governments for 'human capital' expenditures (education, health, other social services) and/or infrastructure expenditures."

The lawsuit is a good idea because it may publicize what's happened to the West's money system, and Canada's in particular. But it beggars common sense to believe that Canadians – or citizens of any country – can simply print money without interest to pay for an endless stream of social programs.

Unfortunately, this idea has taken hold in the US as well, thanks to intrepid campaigners such as financial author Ellen Brown. It simply isn't possible, though. Only the free market can regulate how much money-stuff is necessary for an economy. A government simply CANNOT know.

When people run the printing presses, there will likely always be too much money circulating, with the attendant impact of booms, busts and ongoing, ruinous inflation. This is one reason why gold and silver-based money economies are perhaps the preferable alternative.

Such money-stuff is self regulating. When there is too much of it, value goes down and it ceases to circulate in such abundance. When there is too little, value goes up and MORE circulates. Simple. The magic of the markets.

Litigating the current ruinous money system may not remove it, but it will certainly bring it yet more unwanted attention. That's good. Now if only people would stop thinking that the printing press is a magical instrument and that in "good" hands it can enrich everyone the way it has enriched the Anglosphere elites. Not so.

Conclusion: File this under "two steps forward, one step back."
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:21 AM   #3
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Another Dutch guy is fighting against the usury loving international bankers !!

Dutch Barter System Challenges Banker

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"Believe it or not, but De Nederlandsche Bank (Dutch central bank,) run by Nout Wellink who is on the board of BIS and a member of the Trilaterals) shut down my on-line telebank service. A clear sign I was on the right track . "


By Anthony Migchels

info@gelre-handelsnetwerken.nl


My name is Anthony Migchels and I am the initiator of the "Gelre," the first Regional Currency in the Netherlands.
My organization is a foundation, not for profit, not a company, because I believe credit should be a public facility, serving the people that actually OWN the credit, instead of milking them dry with what is rightfully theirs. The Gelre foundation is run by a board of three.

We now have almost a hundred companies participating and the break even point should come at about 300, after that we can get an income out of it. But the real goal is, to hook up 66% of all companies in Gelderland, a province in the Netherlands with 1.2 million inhabitants and 60k companies. A GDP of about 40 billion Euro.

It is clear that interest bearing debt to a bank as money is a vicious hoax, but strangely enough, few have been developing a viable alternative.

Ellen Brown and the Money Master people, whom I both regard very highly, have reasonable
propositions, but they are still considering reform at the state-level and that is simply not going to happen. Not here in Europe and not before having survived WW3, anyway.

State Level real money implies the end of the New World Order Central Banking Vampires.
There is Bernard Lietaer, but his biggest point seems to be that 'complementary currencies' complement the 'national' (banking, really) currencies. He has correctly analyzed the negative aspects of interest, but is completely oblivious (or pretends to be) to the nefarious nature of the powers behind the printing press. It is clear that real alternative currencies have only one goal: to destroy the credibility of humanities greatest plague and its metal based successors. The goal is clearly NOT to play second fiddle.

I like Thomas Greco, who is very knowledgeable. He suggests mutual credit, facilitated by Market Players as a solution, but even he has not pinpointed what is to my mind the most crucial challenge for anybody wanting to create a viable currency, able to truly compete with Dollar or Euro

That challenge is as follows:

Barter units allow for interest free credit, but are not convertible to major currencies and convertible units don't allow for non interest bearing credit.
Combining these two features, convertibility and interest free credit, is essential for non state/non bank monies to have a real impact.

It is the way of the not so distant future

Most barter schemes have prohibitive transactions costs. Also, and even more importantly, they are not convertible to Euro/Dollar. They usually are OK for swapping excess inventory or goods and services with low marginal cost, but not for high powered capital intensive industry.
The Euro/Dollar/Pound based Berkshares (http://berkshares.org/) , Lewes Pound
(http://www.thelewesPound.org/) and German Regional Currencies (www.regiogeldverein.de) are stronger, because they are based on national currencies: you give up a Dollar and in return you get a Berkshare, that can be spent within the network. In effect the Dollar remains in the network. Because there is a Dollar in the bank, companies can convert excess local currencies (units that they cannot usefully spend in the network) to Dollar/Euro The problem is, there can never be more of the local currency in circulation, than the supplying organization has Dollars/Euro in the bank. Therefore they cannot supply any credit.

This is also the basic architecture of the current Gelre. Another conceptual problem with this approach is that you are basing real, loving money on the most toxic commodity known to man: interest bearing bank debt as money.

There is also a legal problem here, in Europe, anyway:

Believe it or not, but De Nederlandsche Bank (Dutch central bank,) run by Nout Wellink who is on the board of BIS and a member of the Trilaterals) shut down my on-line telebank service. A clear sign I was on the right track . They did so because of a prohibition on collecting 'reclaimable money' (a direct translation of judicial lingo, I'm not sure an English speaking lawyer will know what this means).

You can, however, manage reclaimable money if you give a paper voucher in return. This is a loophole designed for book vouchers and the like.

Now we have only paper money in circulation. Of course, this law is to 'protect consumers' (wink wink). You have to realize this was going on last year, 2008. The people from the Dutch Central Bank are telling me they are very worried about the couple of thousand Euro that we manage as deposits for circulating Gelres. The same people that have been supervising and in effect organizing the credit crunch that has cost taxpayers in the west trillions
of Dollars.

Now, being confronted by men and women (kind and intelligent people!) in expensive suits destroying and enslaving the people I love, including myself, who are telling you they are protecting consumers by putting me out of business, kind of pisses me off BIG TIME.
Brainwashed or not, you start to dislike them even more than you already did.
Its probably not the same with everybody, but if somebody starts playing with my family jewels,
smiling all the time and speaking very correctly gets me thinking. To be honest, it was an experience that inspired.

By creating a unit that combines both strengths, cheap credit AND convertibility, we believe it is possible to actually compete with Euro Creating money out of thin air that will buy Euro and eventually gold, it sure gets me excited

We'll buy the world back )). we won't, but the people using the Gelre will!
The only problem is: how to do it and inspiration makes answering this elusive question easy: you create convertibility not by reclaimable deposits, but by creating an open marketplace where your unit can be traded!

In this way, you create convertibility not by having Euro or Dollars deposited, but by more classical means: foreign exchange markets have been around for quite some time, but only for bank money Speculation is out of the question, because in the network 1 Gelre=1 Euro always.

My foundation simply always sells Gelre for 95 cents, so it is no use offering your Gelres for more.

And because 1 Gelre has a purchasing power of 1 Euro in the network, there is always a natural demand for Gelre because its buyer gets a de facto discount of at least 5%.
Of course you want a stable rate for the Gelre, close to its target of 0,95 cents. This is achieved by correctly managing the amount of Gelre you issue. If you issue to many, people will dump it on the market and your unit goes down the drain: nobody will accept it if its rate goes down too much.

But you can, and we have, create a stabilization fund. Because we sell Gelre for 0,95 cents, we have Euro. We could simply pocket them, but then we would be ripping off the system. It would be a goldmine. Nobody would even notice, people are gullible, but the idea is to help, not to steal. No, the Euro we get in this way go into the stabilization fund and we use them to buy back Gelres if the rate goes down to much.

In effect this means we can almost guarantee a stable exchange rate. Almost, because every adult has to awaken to the fact that there is only one guarantee in life: you die.
It is childish to look for guarantees from institutions. That is part of what is called 'arrested
development'.

At this moment we are programming the on-line exchange. Its not complicated at all, thankfully.

Naturally all this needs to be managed correctly. And of course the idea is very simple. But also revolutionary. A breakthrough that has the potential to create very powerful currencies that can compete globally and locally in many diverse networks against the far to expensive (because of interest) '(supra)national' currencies.

We have chosen a regional scope, because one of our main goals is to stop centralization of power. Since most local economic area's are 80% self sufficient, it is natural that they are monetarily as well.

And because 'The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it' and also because 'the process of money creation is so simple, it repels the mind' transparency is essential in any real money system.

Therefore we have created the Gelre monitor, which reports real-time to all parties involved, on-line, all the key indicators of the Gelre. Turnover, amount in circulation, percentage that is taken by the issuing organization for costs, number of participants, etc, etc. All this information will be available with just a few mouse clicks.

End of this year, maybe early next, our new system will be on-line, hopefully. And it is going to work. Despite the many unknowns to the public. You know why?
Because we are going to print some money and GIVE IT AWAY!

We are going to give away millions of Gelre (1 Gelre = 1 Euro). Why not? We print it for nothing! We don't use that money to stuff these piggybanksters, but we hand it over to the people!! And they can spend it at the businesses that join. These businesses can actually convert their Gelre income to Euro (at a small cost).

We are going to play Santa Clause and all that money is going to circulate forever, continuing to create business. A skyrocketing Gelre Economy in the depths of a very severe depression.
Nobody can get a Eurodime, but we give away millions of Gelre!!

Of course most of the Gelres we put into circulation will be lent out (without interest, but of course with some (very cheap) price, we have bills to pay) in a mutual credit kind of scheme, or sold for Euro (for the benefit of the stabilization fund), but a reasonably small percentage can be simply given away.

You know, the Dutch have a reputation, well deserved, for being the Jews of the Gentiles. If GIVING THEM MONEY FOR NOTHING is not going to convince them, I'm just gonna give up and let the wolves do their thing.

As a final note: one of the most painful delusions many well informed and well intentioned people suffer from, is that the problem is paper money. And that gold is the solution. It is not. Gold is controlled by the same scoundrels that control the current printing presses.
The problem is inflating and deflating an interest bearing money supply. By fraudulent criminals. This is the same for gold as it is for paper. Where do people think all the depressions before 1913 came from?

Of course, gold DOES have a function as the great, eternal tell tale of paper manipulation. That is why it has been manipulated at an unimaginable scale. If it had not been, gold would probably already be at 5k Dollars per ounce. Real inflation (as opposed to the FED figures) has been that bad, the last few decades.

But as a means of exchange it is worthless. Impractical and with an unstable, non-transparent supply. Stable, transparent supply is a core indicator of high quality money.

To be honest, the bankers couldn't care less about the paper, if they can replace it by gold.
Money is one of the few commodities that we can produce infinitely at virtually no cost. The art of the trade is to create plentiful money, without overdoing it. Even a limited amount of inflation is OK, as long as people are aware of it, are compensated for it and don't save the money.

Saving money is always a bad idea anyway, because it withholds money from circulation, but that is another story.

The point is, that if you have a reasonable entity issuing the money, its supply will be stable and cheap.

The Gelre will also prove that gold is as big a hoax as is interest bearing debt.
You can tell I'm excited about it, I can hardly believe we are actually going to do this, and sometimes I am afraid, not only of success, but also of the banksters.
We are going to do it, though.......
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Your publishing of the article last week has produced dozens of reactions! Very inspiring. So much so, I opened a blog in which I intend to participate in the debate on currency.
I will be focusing on monetary matters, not so much on the wider conspiracy which is very competently handled by other people, you in particular.

I believe the subject is of such crucial importance (banking being our masters core business), that we have to get it out of the way, at least within the aware part of the community.

For your info: the blog can be found at realcurrencies.wordpress.com.
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Barter Systems Booming--Time Mag

Money Myth Exploded
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:27 AM   #4
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If you do not know how dangerouns the international bankers are , then check these threads

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Old 01-03-2012, 10:53 PM   #5
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Bankers will try to continue their mammoth scam. Check this.

Local Liberty Dollar ‘architect’ Bernard von NotHaus convicted

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COMMENT: This alternative, voluntary gold & silver currency may be controversial, but it seems incomprehensible that it could be deemed illegal on grounds of resembling Federal Reserve paper notes. Don’t the Feds know we abandoned the gold standard back in the 70s? It is even more outrageous for these attorneys to term the convicted man as a participating in “a unique form of domestic terrorism.” More evidence that the phony War on Terror is waged against the American people rather than on shadowy men in turbans seeking jihad.


The former head of an Evansville-based company that tried to introduce a currency that competed with the U.S. dollar has been found guilty of federal charges in North Carolina.

Bernard von NotHaus, 67, was convicted Friday by a federal jury of making, possessing and selling his own coins, said Anne M. Tompkins, U.S. attorney for the Western District of North Carolina.

After an eight-day trial and less than two hours of deliberation, von NotHaus, the founder and “monetary architect” of a currency known as the Liberty Dollar, was found guilty of making coins resembling and similar to United States coins; of issuing, passing, selling and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States.

Von NotHaus, who remains free on bond, faces a sentence of up to 15 years’ imprisonment and a fine of not more than $250,000 on the count related to distributing the coins for use as money and a sentence of five years and fines of $250,000 on counts related to making the coins and the conspiracy charge.

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Bernard von NotHaus, 67, is on the front line against the usurious war waged by the Federal Reserve on the American people, and by extension the world. He was convicted last month on conspiracy and counterfeiting charges for making and selling silver coins, the ‘Liberty Dollars’, which he has promoted as inflation-proof competition for the U.S. dollar. It wasn’t that his claims weren’t true - bi-metals are famously inflation-free, it was that he had stood against the Fed and their money printing monopoly.

Federal prosecutors tried to take a hoard of silver Liberty Dollars worth about $7 million that authorities say was to compete with U.S. currency, including “2 tons of freshly minted ‘Ron Paul’ dollars,” coinage stamped with the noble Texas representative’s face. The coins became popular with anti-Fed “sovereign citizens.” Aaron Michel, von NotHaus’ attorney, says the assets belong to his client and about 250,000 people “who left their Liberty coins at Sunshine Minting for safekeeping.” Aaron Michel is appealing the verdict. He argues von NotHaus has done nothing wrong because he didn’t try to pass the Liberty Dollars off as U.S. dollars. “The prosecutors successfully painted Mr. von NotHaus in a false light and now the U.S. attorney responsible for the prosecution is painting the case in a false light, saying that it establishes that private voluntary barter currency is illegal,” Michel writes.

The case involves more than five tons of Liberty Dollars and precious metals seized from a warehouse, which the government wants to take by forfeiture. If barter currency is now illegal, will this mean the end for Disney Dollars, Chuckie Cheese’s tokens as well as the paper currency featured on the popular board game ‘Monopoly’? Von NotHaus began issuing Liberty Dollars way back in 1998, as head of the Evansville, Indiana-based National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Code.

In 2007, the group’s headquarters were raided along with the Sunshine Mint in Idaho, where the coins were made. The Federal Reserve is of course opposed to any sign of a rival to their monopolistic control of the US economy and by extension the political realm too. Any currency issued, particularly one that has intrinsic value- unlike the US Dollar- is met by a zero-tolerance war from the Fed. Federal prosecutors successfully argued that von NotHaus was, in fact, trying to pass off the silver coins as U.S. currency. Coming in denominations of 5, 10, 20, and 50, the Liberty Dollars also featured a dollar sign, the word “dollar” and the motto “Trust in God,” similar to the “In God We Trust” that appears on U.S. coins.

In a statement that has shocked many Americans, after von NotHaus was convicted, U.S. attorney Anne Tompkins said, “Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism.” Forging a tie between minting silver coins for the people and acts of terrorism is a desperate attempt by the government powers to convince the American masses that they’re safer and more secure with the US Dollars, which has been compared by some analysts as nothing more than rolls of toilet paper!

Von NotHaus argued that it’s not illegal to create currency to privately trade goods and services. He also has said his organization took pains to say the Liberty Dollars shouldn’t be called “coins” and shouldn’t be presented as government-minted cash. Among other benefits, Michel’s motion argues, the Liberty Dollars were a means to help keep currency in local communities by creating networks of merchants and consumers who used the money. Numerous cities and regions around the country have experimented with local currency, but laws restrict them from resembling U.S. bills or from being passed off as money printed by the federal government.

The concerns raised by von NotHaus and his group are finding resonance among some state lawmakers, too. About a dozen states have legislation that would allow them to produce their own currency backed by gold or silver in the event of hyperinflation striking the U.S. dollar. North and South Carolina are among those states. That’s partly why von NotHaus’ group has been followed for years by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that tracks political extremism.

Long before the government began its investigation into von NotHaus, the group was raising concerns about the popularity of Liberty Dollars among fringe groups on the far right. Even with von NotHaus suppressed, how many other Americans will rise up against the banking elite? The tide appears to be turning, with more and more Americans finally seeing through the illusions of the system. Von NotHaus is currently free on bail. If the conviction against him is upheld, he faces up to 25 years in prison and a fine of $750,000.
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Are gold resurce Big enough to enable tHat gold standard is back? May be in addition gold-silver also diamond could be added

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BBC Admits Anglosphere Destabilized Libya

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nside story of the UK's secret mission to beat Gaddafi ... British efforts to help topple Colonel Gaddafi were not limited to air strikes. On the ground − and on the quiet − special forces soldiers were blending in with rebel fighters. This is the previously untold account of the crucial part they played. The British campaign to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi's regime had its public face − with aircraft dropping bombs, or Royal Navy ships appearing in Libyan waters, but it also had a secret aspect ... In the end, though, British special forces were deployed on the ground in order to help the UK's allies − the Libyan revolutionaries often called the National Transitional Council or NTC. Those with a knowledge of the programme insist "they did a tremendous job" and contributed to the final collapse of the Gaddafi regime.. – BBC Newsnight

Dominant Social Theme: Well ... we Brits did play a role in destabilizing Gaddafi, after all. We're admitting it now because success has many fathers, and we want to make sure we're one of them. We can't run an economy or sustain a world empire but we sure as heck can kill people, even top people, if we want to destabilize their regimes. Word up, eh!

Free-Market Analysis: And thus the Brits crow ... again. Or to put it more precisely, the Anglosphere power elite that is apparently behind much of this weary world's destruction and bloodshed.

Why do they "allow" the release of this article on a functionary media of their own control (the BBC)? Because "they" are interested in ensuring that developing country politicos get the message. The Brits are back and if you don't listen to 'em, you could find yourself dead and lying in a meat freezer for three or four days until your body is dumped in the desert in an unmarked grave.

The message couldn't be clearer. A New World Order is headed your way. And you'd better cooperate. The warning has been sent.

That was the reason as well, in our view, for all the Gaddafi videos that were floating around the Internet. Western culture – under the Anglosphere's fierce gaze – has evolved into an environment where even mothers taking pictures of their children can be seen as evidence of pedophilia.

But the Gaddafi videos – of his murder and potential buggery – and the murders of his sons and other kin deluged the 'Net for weeks. In an environment where even a curse word is often bleeped out and one person striking another can be seen as "excessive violence," the Gaddafi videos stood in marked contrast.

Here you could see Gaddafi, over and over, in a pool of blood while his full execution was plotted. And later on you could see him lying dead in a meat locker. The Western press was suddenly NOT shy about exposing these images. Funny thing, eh?

Of course not. The Anglosphere, in our view, is desperate. The Internet Reformation we've written about for nearly a decade is perhaps proceeding full force. They don't know what to do. It's a process, not an episode, but their toolbox only provides remedies for episodic break-outs of freedom. Those can be controlled.

But under the fierce, pitiless gaze of the Internet, freedom keeps coming and coming ... Information keeps leaking out in dribs and drabs. It's like death by water-torture. How do you handle that? Well ... they've started to murder people at the highest level. They're actively deposing heads of state throughout the developing world. That seems to be one solution, though not a very effective one, in our view.

We're not supposed to know about this – or write about it, of course. But in this case, it's okay. The great central banking families that run the Anglosphere decided to "come clean" about Gaddafi. For reasons that may or may not be fully clear, they've decided to "own" the coup.

This is not the case in Tunisia, Egypt or the Ivory Coast where the Anglosphere was apparently equally involved. The alternative media has done a great job in exposing what's really going on, of course. AYM, the CIA and state-sponsored "youth movement," has trained thousands of young people in the arcane arts of state destabilization – and these activities have been reported on at length.

It's a big false-flag operation, indeed. Get ahead of the Internet by fomenting "color revolutions" that seem to be inspired by it but actually are not. The AYM movement has even spread to the US itself, where the power elite has attempted to harness the Internet in support of its goals of determined misdirection.

OWS and other groups like them have specific signatures, in fact. They are not interested in getting rid of the current authoritarian system. They are simply interested in making things better, in getting "their fair share." Central banking for the most part – the elite's central tool of oppression – is hardly mentioned.

There are other signatures. One hallmark of these apparent false-flag movements is the inevitable vocabulary of "transparency." The idea is that "democracy" must become "transparent" in order to benefit "the people."

Of course, modern democracies are run by the power elite exercising their power behind the scenes via the central banks they control. This power elite has access apparently to hundreds of trillions of dollars at this point and they have used this money to build an authoritarian matrix around the world.

Focus on transparency and you might feel better for a while. But it will leave the real power structure virtually unchecked. Government is a necessity for the power elite, which rules via mercantilism. Whether the government is "transparent" or not, makes no difference to them. Which is why they back it, and float it as an anodyne to "corruption."

No, they don't care. Change government – especially big government – as you choose, and the elites will still prosper. Media, think tanks, universities, political establishments – every aspect of society is permeated by their globalist viewpoint. Transparency will make little or no difference.

In fact, it all worked very well right up until the advent of the Internet. It is the Internet Reformation that has educated us about this vast – unfathomable – project of the elites. And what has been revealed is breathtaking.

In the past several hundred years, certainly since modern central banking took hold, the hold of the elites on the world's formal conversation has increased to nearly unimaginable proportions.

The 20th century was the worst of times for people's understanding of their manipulation. But in the 21st century the Internet has allowed a free-flow of truthful information that has explained (for people who can stand to look) what's actually taking place.

And the great central banking families are going out of their collective mind. For 100 years or more they were careful about the public face of their merciless manipulations. But now they don't seem to care anymore. They're casting the proverbial "caution to the wind."

SOPA, the Internet censorship bill that was supposed to be passed in the US, is failing. That's just one tiny example of a setback. There's the EU itself that is coming apart, global warming that's increasingly discredited, even the War on Terror itself that's not working as intended.

The elite methodology, unfortunately, is war and more war. But in between wars they sink literally trillions into fixed methodologies of control. Think, dear reader, of the amount of time and money that has gone into building a seamless Western matrix of political, media and military facilities that will act in concert to promote power-elite memes.

It is these dominant social themes that the elites have relied upon to ensure that the people of the world voluntarily create the New World Order that the top men so ardently seek. But these fear-based promotions are foundering. Their globalist receptacles are increasingly seen as fruitless and incompetent.

Think ... if you had invested several generations of your family's lives and wealth into building a one-world paradigm – only to see it virtually undone in a decade wouldn't you feel frustrated?

Make no mistake, please. The Internet WAS a mistake. The elites are rich beyond contemplation but they are not supermen. They are not, in our view, even overly intelligent. DARPA created the Internet so that military planning could be shared more efficiently between various players of the military-industrial complex.

But the elites apparently DID NOT see the advent of the personal computer, nor how DARPA's tiny facility would be utilized to create a network that would connect billions. It is what EF Hayek called "spontaneous order." It is the free market itself, which the elites are always fighting, that has dealt what may be a death blow to the current one-world conspiracy.

Secrecy was always their best weapon. How does one build a New World Order when those who are supposed to build it don't want it and are aware they are signing their own death warrant – or at least their children's – if they construct it?

And so they lash out. They've done so in the past. After the advent of the Gutenberg Press (the last time an information-revolution sabotaged power elite control) the very "hounds of Hell" were unleashed. Wars were started – such as the Peasant Wars in Germany – that went on and on for decades without cease. Sound familiar?

What is most interesting is that these wars gradually came to a halt with the signing of the Treaty of Westphalia in the mid-1600s. The wars had been so costly and destabilizing that the elites were apparently forced to conclude them – though the Gutenberg Press's destabilizing influence was felt far longer, in our view.

What does the Treaty of Westphalia have to do with today? Here is some food for thought: The Treaty of Westphalia was essentially undone in 2005, when the top countries of the West voted for something called "responsibility to protect" – R2P – which not only authorizes but virtually demands that countries invade other countries when civilians are seen at risk.

R2P was passed virtually without controversy – or even comment – within the mainstream press. There was a good deal more fuss when, say, Brittany Spears shaved off her hair. But R2P overturned a basic tenet of Western civilization – and the ultimate result was two weeks of videos of Muammar Gaddafi dead and splayed out in a meat locker.

No, folks, the methods of control don't change. Right now, the elites have turned to violence and authoritarianism to try to damp the effects of what we call the Internet Reformation. But from what we can tell, it didn't work the first time, and there's no reason to think it will work now.

People won't voluntarily obey just because they might end up dead, buggered and dumped into an unmarked desert grave. Violence, long-term, is not a relevant solution to social control. It can work for a while but eventually, belief systems need to be inculcated. The best slaves are the ones who don't know they are enslaved. Otherwise, long-term, it doesn't have the requisite impact.

Right now, apparently, the Anglosphere power elite is in full cry. They've forgotten – or at least not internalized – what their ancestors knew and understood. Force is not the solution to an information-revolution. One cannot stop the ocean with a gun. Or keep the desert sand from shifting by building a prison.

The Anglosphere can attempt to intimidate politicians and strongmen the world over but we would argue that it won't work any better than it did after the Gutenberg Press came about. Then, the power structure of Britain was overthrown, the Catholic Church was rent, the fabric of religion itself was reconfigured by numerous schisms, the New World was discovered and populated.

Conclusion: The Anglosphere didn't really regain full control until the 20th century, from what we can tell. And now 100 years later it seems to be happening all over again. What a nightmare!
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By Presi Mandari (AFP) – Feb 16, 2010

JAKARTA — Guided by a Scottish-born convert to Islam, a group of devout Indonesian Muslims is shunning "worthless" paper money in favour of gold and silver coins for their daily transactions.

The followers of Sheikh Abdalqadir as-Sufi -- born Ian Dallas -- trade goods like food, medicine, clothes and phone cards with gold dinars and silver dirhams in line with a strict interpretation of Islamic law.

Their anti-modern views sit uneasily with the naked capitalism of Indonesia's teeming capital, the financial and political centre of one of the fastest growing economies in the world.

"History has proven that, since the prophet Mohammed, the value of one gold dinar for thousands of years has always been equal to the value of one goat," said 33-year-old Kurniawati, who runs a shop in southern Jakarta.

Hoping to follow the example of Mohammad and the first generations of Muslims, the sheikh's followers do their shopping with dirhams worth around 30,000 rupiah (3.20 dollars) and dinars worth 1.43 million (153 dollars).

And they want the government -- or preferably a worldwide Islamic caliphate -- to replace paper currencies with the dinar that was used, in the words of the sheikh, "until the incursions of the kafir financiers in the Muslim lands".

Wakala Induk Nusantara (WIN) is the body responsible for regulating the issuance and distribution of the dinar in the world's most populous Muslim-majority country.

Coins minted in Indonesia are also in circulation in Australia, Malaysia and Singapore, WIN official Riki Rokhman Azis said.

The number of dinars on the local market more than doubled in 2009 to 25,000 pieces, reflecting the movement's growing popularity, he said.

"We decided to mint silver and gold coins in Indonesia following a fatwa issued by Sheikh Abdalqadir as-Sufi in Cape Town of South Africa, banning Muslims from using paper money," Azis told AFP.

Abdalqadir, a former playwright and actor who converted to Islam in the late 1960s, bitterly opposes modern capitalism and advocates a return to forms of Islamic law practised by the first generations after Mohammed.

These include seventh-century systems of trade and, in particular, the requirement of "zakat", or obligatory sharing of wealth, which he says must be done with gold or silver if it is paid in money.

Recent global economic upheavals, with their origins in the US mortgage and derivatives markets, have confirmed in the eyes of the sheikh that the final victory of Islamic finance is at hand.

In a blog on his website dated February 7, the sheikh pronounces the "historical, demonstrated end" of capitalism, and claims Western governments are using the threat of terrorism to distract people from this failure.

"It is time for the enslaved billions of our world today to fear no more the exploding shoes and underpants of the idiot agents of capitalism and to learn what Islam really is," he writes.

One of the key elements to being Muslim, he continues, is "following the messenger in all trade and contracts with honour (and) ... with real-value instruments of exchange like gold and silver".

Some Muslims have countered that a world economy based on gold coins would lead to a powerful cartel of gold-producing countries, while others have noted the potential for market chaos if gold replaced the greenback.

But for the sheikh's followers, such issues seem remote compared to the straightforward injunction to obey the Koran and emulate Mohammed.

"At least four people on average shop here every week with dinars, mostly buying things like rice, cooking oil, soap and clothes," said Kurniawati, a mother-of-three who also runs a dinar exchange service.

She became convinced of the wisdom of using dinars after her husband gave her a wedding dowry in gold coins eight years ago.

"A gold coin was worth 400,000 rupiah in 2002 but now it's at 1.45 million," she said proudly.

Several dinar users expressed a belief that gold never lost value, even though the currency has dropped 14 percent over the past year, according to rates tracked on local website Gerai Dinar.

The rupiah, meanwhile, has gained 29.17 percent against the US dollar since February 2009, while inflation last year was a record low of 2.78 percent. Consumer prices rose 11.07 percent in 2008.

Despite its recent gains, dinar users expressed a deep distrust of the rupiah, which tanked during the 1998-1999 Asian economic crisis.

"The value of the dinar and the dirham always goes up because the price of gold never falls," said food vendor Faturrahman.

"The price of food in rupiah, in contrast, is always rising. It gives me a headache as my income is becoming smaller and smaller."
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A Gold Standard Is Good?
Monday, January 30, 2012 – by Staff Report

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Return of the Gold Standard Imminent ... The gold standard will precipitate a massive deflation. The ensuing chaos will help usher in their coveted New World Order and World Currency. What has been in the cards for decades is now fully on the agenda: the return of the Gold Standard. Gold as currency is a weapon. It is a wealth transfer to those holding Gold, which is not the 99%, and will precipitate a massive deflation. The ensuing chaos will help usher in their coveted New World Order and World Currency. – Anthony Migchels / HenryMakow.com

Dominant Social Theme: Gold is a barbaric metal.

Free-Market Analysis: Energetic social-credit entrepreneur Anthony Migchels is back with a spirited criticism of a "gold standard." His article appears – as have others by him – on Henry Makow's website and is focused on a few main points that have in part been made by other critics of a gold standard.

We are grateful to Mr. Migchels – and to neo-Greenbacker Ellen Brown – for continuing to advance a larger monetary debate over fiat versus money metals, even though we think to some degree it aids those who want even bigger government than we already have.

We won't however conflate Migchel's arguments with Brown's as he has disavowed some of them and has in certain instances seemingly agreed with arguments we've made about central banking and government bureaucracy. Nonetheless, we think we disagree with certain points in this article. Some more:

Numerous stories pertaining to Gold as currency have appeared recently. Last week alone, it was reported that India will pay Iran in gold for their oil imports. In another development, China, Japan, Russia, France and a number of Arab states will pay each other with a basket of currencies, including Gold.

Yet another story was about World Bank President Robert Zoellick, who has been promoting a Gold Standard for years, 'admitting' the demise of the dollar reflects 'a changing balance of power' in the world. Even Newt Gingrich has jumped aboard the gold train.

These stories are framed as resistance against the dollar hegemony and of course that is only a part of the story ... But the decline of the dollar is only part of the story. The dollar is only the current vehicle the Money Power uses to rule international finance. It doesn't care for the vehicle itself, as long as it has a suitable successor and that will be Gold.

And in the US itself there also is a strong drive towards Gold as currency. The onslaught by Austrian Economics in the Alternative Media comes to mind. And Ron Paul of course. He openly calls for Gold as currency. In this respect, he clearly is the ultimate internationalist candidate. This contrasts sharply with his patriotic 'constitutionalism'.

Some of this is good! Some of this, we've have pointed out in various articles ourselves. We think, possibly, that Money Power is deliberately breaking down the "old" economic order in order to create some sort of one-world currency. We think gold may be part of it – and we're surely not in favor of this sort of "directed history" when it comes to monetary schemes.

But we also believe that money, historically, has proven out to be gold and silver; though as hard-money economist Murray Rothbard pointed out, money has ALSO been virtually anything that people have decided it is.

However, Rothbard, from what we can tell, was mostly talking about commodity money – shells, salt, copper discs, etc., that are injected into economies via MARKET FORCES. The problem comes when certain monetary theorists want to use monopoly power (often of the state) to produce pure-paper money.

Once the state (or its adjuncts) decides to assume the power to "print" money, the marketplace monitor that works so well for private money is disassembled. Those who work (for the state, especially) do not know how much money is "enough" money – nor can they.

Migchels also states that libertarian-Republican presidential candidate and Congressman Ron Paul "lies" about the Constitution "saying the constitution says we should have Gold as currency ... but other units are allowed."

In fact, the US mints were clearly set up to stamp metals into coins and the intent of the founders regarding money metals seems fairly clear. In an educational article entitled "What Is a Dollar," well-known libertarian writer Edward Vieira, Jr. writes:

History shows that the real "dollar" is a coin containing 371.25 grains (troy) of fine silver.

a. The "dollar" in the Constitution. Both Article I, Section 9, Clause 1 of the Constitution and the Seventh Amendment use the noun "dollar." The Constitution does not define the "dollar," though, because in the late 1700s everyone knew that the word meant the silver Spanish milled dollar.

b. Adoption of the "dollar" as the "Money-Unit" prior to ratification of the Constitution. The Founding Fathers did not need explicitly to adopt the "dollar" as the national unit of money or to define the "dollar" in the Constitution, because the Continental Congress had already done so.

Migchels doesn't seem to fully define the difference between a state and a private gold or gold-and-silver standard. One standard is imposed by force and the other is not. What is the harm in having a standard that is voluntarily imposed and utilized?

The idea apparently is that even with a voluntary gold or gold and silver standard, the elites would continue to control the world's money system because they own most of the metal extant.

We're not sure this accurate to begin with, but even it is we're not sure it makes much difference. In a free money system, it would be difficult to control a money marketplace. If one wanted to try to manipulate markets, one would have to issue out money metals – or hoard them – at which point the price would go up ... or down.

The Anglosphere power elite, from what we can tell, is almost entirely allergic to using its own funds for purposes of realizing a New World Order. We find it highly doubtful that such a group would pour money into the marketplace to devalue gold or silver – especially since those holding most of the money metals would be the most affected.

If the elite tried to hoard metals, people likely would simply dig up more of it, devaluing what was already above-ground. In a free market, money manipulations are very difficult, if not impossible, especially over a long period of time.

Migchels makes the point that a Gold Standard would be "an unmitigated disaster" that would lead to excruciating deflation. But what is wrong with deflation? Murray Rothbard was fond of pointing out that in a full-gold-standard environment, goods and services would become more affordable as technology brought down their provision.

The point, apparently, according to Mr. Migchels, is that "Deflation is a horror for debtors, who see their debts and the interest they pay over them grow worse in real terms." But in a deflationary environment, those who held commodity money would see their assets appreciate, even if their debt did as well.

Mr. Migchels quotes the "Protocols" as saying: 'You are aware that the gold standard has been the ruin of the States which adopted it, for it has not been able to satisfy the demands for money, the more so that we have removed gold from circulation as far as possible."

The trouble with this quote is that it is difficult to establish definitively where the Protocols came from or whose views they represented. (We've actually written about this in the past.) But even assuming that the Protocols speak for "all Jews" – or even a Jewish "ruling class," the statement is seemingly vague. It makes no distinction between a free-market standard and a state-mandated one.

Mr. Migchels writes that, "Far from a 'solution', the coming Gold Standard is the logical next step in the Money Power plan of destabilization and order out of chaos. We will have a long and painful depression. Although it is not certain that Gold will completely replace paper, it is obvious that we will know scarce money and contraction for years to come."

This is only certain if the powers-that-be are able to mandate a state-run gold standard. State power is always to be feared, especially in the context of a new monetary system. But we would argue, on the other hand, that no one has to fear money that is created within the context of the market itself.

For some reason, part of the alternative media is consumed with fear when it comes to money metals. We think the real agenda may be that even critics of the current system that reside on the alternative media cannot entirely give up their yen to control society via the levers of state authoritarianism.

They want to have it both ways, in other words – criticizing the current system but making state power available for their various nostrums. Within this context, it is important to remember that every law and regulation is a price fix transferring wealth from those who earned it to those who did not and have little idea what to do with it.

Let the market itself decide on money. Don't fear money metals! Gold and silver have been the historical money of choice for thousands of years. A free-market gold and silver standard has apparently proven especially utile in the past.

Conclusion: If money competes – as we hope it will – we would be surprised if gold and silver don't eventually win out. Hopefully, one day, we'll be in a position to see if this is true ...
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Regional Currencies in Germany: the Chiemgauer
Chiemgauer is a wonderful inspiration in humanity’s struggle against the Money Power.

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In our our series analyzing different monetary systems, we continue in Germany, where dozens of privately operated Regional Currencies circulate. The most important one is the Chiemgauer, turning over more than 5 million per year and growing at a rate of 100% per annum. It circulates in Rosenheim, Southern Germany, only 30 miles away from Wörgl, where Mayor Unterguggenberger launched his legendary ‘Freigeld’ experiment almost 80 years ago.

The Regio Geld movement began after the introduction of the Euro. A reaction to the loss of the D-Mark that had served Germany relatively well since the Second World War. Germany enjoys an elevated awareness of monetary matters as a result of the horrible lessons of first the Weimar hyperinflation, then the excruciating deflation of the Great Depression, followed by Hitler’s interest-free economy.

The basic rationale for the German regional currencies is to combat capital scarcity and capital costs.

Let’s first analyze the Chiemgauer’s monetary architecture, and then see how it helps to alleviate these problems.

The Chiemgauer’s design
1 Chiemgauer = 1 Euro. Participants must accept Chiemgauer at this value. Basically this means that the Chiemgauer uses the Euro’s Unit of Account function. This is practical, because it avoids daily changing prices in Chiemgauer and allows price transparency for its users. Most ‘complementary currencies’, currencies circulating beside a dominant national unit, operate in this way.

The downside is also clear: it imports Euro’s rising prices and leaves it vulnerable to Euro’s instability. However, these risks should not be overestimated: another unit of account can be used if Euro’s problems become acute.

The Chiemgauer is a Euro backed unit and convertible to Euro. Firms and consumers can buy a Chiemgauer for 1 Euro of which 3 cents go to a local charity of the consumer’s choice. This is the basic incentive for individuals to pay with Chiemgauer instead of Euro. A further 2 cents are for the issuing organization to cover its costs.
When a firm wants to convert a Chiemgauer back into Euro, it receives 95 cents. This is to motivate local firms to pay their suppliers with Chiemgauer, and thus keep the money in the local economy.

Chiemgauer uses a demurrage: basically a tax on holding money. A Chiemgauer expires every three months. The one
holding the note when it expires must pay 2% of the nominal value of the note to reactivate it. This is Silvio Gesell’s invention and it was also the secret of the Wörgl. By diminishing the ‘store of value’ function in this way, its ‘means of exchange’ function is enhanced. As a result the Chiemgauer circulates about 2,5 times faster than Euro, meaning less money is required to finance the same economic activity.

Chiemgauer history and development
Christian Gelleri, an economics teacher, created the Chiemgauer with his students in 2003. It faced a difficult start, with only a handful of firms willing to join the experiment. But it quickly gained traction.
Chiemgauer is now accepted by over 600 businesses in the Rosenheim district, with about 500.000 inhabitants. It turns over more than 5 million Chiemgauer per year. Although this is only 0,2% of Rosenheim’s economy, the Chiemgauer’s turnover is growing at a whopping 100% per year. This means it will take only a few more years before it will become a major asset to the local economy.

Gelleri is not shy in his ambitions: he expects the Chiemgauer to eventually finance about 50% of the regional economy.
More is impossible, because taxation and international trade will continue to rely on euro.
But it is clear that when this ambition materializes, it will raise many eyebrows and would imply a major assault on the Money Power’s currency monopoly.

Gelleri has managed to provide the Chiemgauer with a solid footing in the community. By engaging local charities, who have a clear incentive to work with the Chiemgauer because of the 3% they get when people buy it, he has created a strong network of organizations promoting his unit.
He has also managed to enlist a local bank, the anthroposophical GLS bank. Germany has a relatively decentralized banking system, where ‘Landes Banken’ have close relations with small and medium sized businesses. This is one of the key factors behind Germany’s post war economic success.

The cooperation with GLS bank is important, because Euro backed and convertible units are only legal when they are restricted to paper notes. To allow bank accounts for the currency, a banking license is required.

And to challenge Euro in the business world without a solid system of bank accounts is unthinkable in this era of internet and automated adminstration.

Added value
So why is the Chiemgauer important? In the first place it is another clear example of a privately operated currency, without State backing. It proves a means of exchange can be completely paper based without State coercion. Money is anything that is agreed upon as a means of exchange. No coercion is necessary if the paper adds value for market players.

Regional Currencies are important. If anything, the Euro crisis has made clear that monopoly currencies circulating in vast area’s like Europe, but also the United States, leads to imbalances between more and less competitive regions.
The less competitive regions have a negative balance of payments, resulting in deflationary pressures in the local economy.

Chiemgauer cannot be used outside the Rosenheim region and thus stops the leaking away of capital. It alleviates the pressures of capital scarcity and makes the region less vulnerable to international instability.

Chiemgauer also addresses cost for capital: because it circulates 2,5 times quicker, the same amount of economic activity can be realized with only 40% of the money, implying 60% lower cost for capital (interest) for the community.

Limitations
The Chiemgauer’s key limitation is that it cannot provide interest-free credit. It is a Euro backed unit, not Mutual Credit.
Chiemgauer does offer credit, which is a breakthrough in itself and quite uncommon for the time being, but it is priced at 7% per year.
However, this limitation is partly offset by it’s much faster circulation.

Conclusion
The Chiemgauer is a great success. One can survive for months on end in Rosenheim without spending one Euro. It leads the way for Regional Currencies worldwide. It proves that dedicated people can create cheap and abundant capital, notwithstanding annoying legal limitations.

Chiemgauer is a wonderful inspiration in humanity’s struggle against the Money Power.
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Interest-Free Economics

Interest-Free Economics has been called ‘Sacred Economics’. And it is. It is about establishing equitable access to capital for all. It aims to end usury, while promoting initiative. It is about free markets, with access to all. Including a free market for currencies.

Interest-Free Economics builds on two proud traditions: European anti-usury activism and interest-free credit and the great American Populist anti Money Power tradition with debt-free money.

Although these two traditions promote different solutions, both are aimed at ending the Money Power’s grip on the Money Supply and exploitation of that control through usury and the boom/bust cycle.

Check these artciles for further insight.

On Interest
Budget of an Interest Slave
The Problem is not Debt, it’s Interest
Mutual Credit, the Astonishingly Simple Truth about Money Creation
Mutual Credit for the 21st century: Convertibility
The Goal of Monetary Reform
Debt Free Money alone does not solve Compound Interest
Usurious Usurpation
Reassessing the Greenback and other Alternative Monetary Systems
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Conspiracy Too Monstrous To Conceive

The "War on Terror" is obviously designed to forestall domestic opposition and condition people to further subjugation and new world order. What can we do?

Antony Sutton had it right when he said opposition should be individual in character. It should "take ten thousand or a million forms."

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"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

The world is in the malignant grip of a satanic cult.

People recoil at the suggestion but proof stares us in the face every day.

George W. Bush, President of the "Free World" is a member of "Skull and Bones" a chapter of the Illuminati order. His father, grandfather and uncle are also members.

In his autobiography, "A Charge to Keep" Bush writes, "My senior year I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society so secret I can't say anything more." In Aug. 2000 he said his "heritage is part of who I am."

Isn't this a conflict of interest?

Hello! Can a man hold any public office, let alone the most important, and belong to a "secret society"? If this society were benign, would it have to be secret?

What a secret society it is! The Illuminati is the hidden hand behind all modern cataclysms, including the French and Russian Revolutions, Communism, the Depression and Nazism. To affect the course of history only takes money. The people behind the Illuminati have plenty.

It's time we faced reality. Murphy's Law applies to humanity. "If it can go wrong, it will."

It has. The world is ruled by a satanic cult.

THE ILLUMINATI AND THE SKULL & BONES


The Illuminati originates in the Jewish Kabala, Babylonian mystery cults, the Templars, Freemasons and assorted interests dedicated to Satan worship and absolute power. On May 1 1776, Adam Weishaupt, a professor at the University of Inglestadt in Germany, founded "The Order of the Illuminati." Many people believe Weishaupt was sponsored by Prince William of Hesse Casel and his banker Meyer Amschel Rothschild, the wealthiest man in the world.

The Illuminati's goal was to destroy Western Civilization and to erect a new world order ruled by them. Its method was to dissolve all social ties (employer, nation, religion, race, family) by exploiting social discontent and promising a golden age of "human brotherhood." This is now called "globalization."

Attracted by the promise of power and change, people served without realizing who or what they were supporting. Weishaupt urged his followers to "practise the art of counterfeit." New recruits were told the Illuminati expressed the original spirit of Christianity. Weishaupt marvelled that even churchmen could be gulled. "Oh! Men, of what cannot you be persuaded?" (Nesta Webster, World Revolution, 1921, p. 27)

The Illuminati had a hand in every so-called "progressive" movement of the past 200 years. Women, said Weishaupt, were to be enlisted with "hints of emancipation." They "can all be led toward change by vanity, curiosity, sensuality and inclination." (Webster, 29)

William Huntington, an American who had studied in Germany, founded the "Skull and Bones" (Chapter 322 of the Bavarian Illuminati) at Yale University in 1832. The members wore a death's head on their chests and were sworn to secrecy on pain of death. "The Order" became the preserve of the leading New England families, many wealthy from the Opium trade. These include the Whitneys, Tafts, Buckleys, Lowells, Sloans, Coffins, and Harrimans. The Bush family was dependent on these interests.

For over 150 years, "Bonesmen" have run the world from positions in banking, intelligence, media, law and government. Members included Presidential handler Averell Harriman, anti war leader William Sloan Coffin, Time-Life magnate Henry Luce, Truman war secretary Henry Stimson (responsible for dropping the atomic bomb), pseudo conservative William F. Buckley and many more.

"THE BATTLE IS NOT BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT"

n the 1960's British-born Dr. Anthony Sutton was a Fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institute when he discovered that, in spite of the Cold War, the US was supplying the USSR with its technology, including weapons used against American soldiers in Vietnam. Sutton dug deeper and discovered that Wall Street had sponsored both the Bolshevik Revolution and the rise of Nazi Germany. The resulting books which are on line cost Dr. Sutton his academic career.

In 1983, Dr. Sutton received a list of Skull and Bones members and immediately recognized the names of many men who controlled American policy. He published a book entitled "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (1986). He updated and republished this book just before his death last June at age 77. Here are some of his conclusions.

* "The Order" is " a purely American phenomenon with German origin." Dr. Sutton compares it to the Round Table, Cecil Rhodes' secret society at Oxford also known as "The Group." The American and British entities consist of 20-30 dynastic families each. Jewish banking interests connect them.

"The links between 'The Order' and Britain go through Lazard Freres and the private merchant banks... 'The Group' links to the Jewish equivalent through the Rothschilds in Britain... 'The Order' in the US links to the Guggenheim, Schiff and Warburg families." (23)

As Dr. Sutton notes, the "Order" had definite anti Semitic tendencies but by the 1960's, many Jewish names started to appear among the 15 annual inductees. See list of Skull and Bones members.

* Dr. Sutton believes the "left" versus "right" split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the "The Nation" and "The New Republic" and right-wing magazines like "The National Review were "artificially set up." The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are "The Order."

Dr. Sutton states: "Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left. This is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them."

Similarly, in the international field left and right political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for one-world synthesis, i.e. authoritarian socialism controlled by monopoly capital.

College textbooks present war and revolution as accidental results of conflicting forces. This is nonsense, says Dr. Sutton. They are created and financed by Wall Street to create a new world order. But you won't read this in history books.

"Our Western history is every bit as distorted, censored and largely useless as that of Hitler's Germany or the Soviet Union or Communist China..." (122)

* Dr. Sutton believes The Order has many weaknesses resulting from an inbred gene pool, a shallow power base and a limited worldview. In any future conflict between the authoritarian state and the individual, he believes opposition will take "a million forms."

" No one is going to create the anti-The Order movement. That would be foolish and unnecessary. It could be infiltrated, bought off, or diverted all too easily. Why play by the rules set by the enemy?

The movement that will topple The Order will be extremely simple and most effective. It will be ten thousand or a million Americans who come to the conclusion that they don't want the State to be boss, that they prefer to live under the protection of the Constitution. They will make their own independent decision to thwart The Order and it will take ten thousand or a million forms." (55)


COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Bizarre as it sounds, our world is the product of a multi generational satanic conspiracy.
(Believe me I would give everything I own to be wrong.)

When we compare this disturbing conclusion with the comforting picture purveyed by Illuminati controlled-mass media and education, we experience "cognitive dissonance," or psychological stress. This is usually resolved by evading reality, dismissing it as "conspiracy theory."

One reader, stirring in his sleep, wrote: "You sir are T-TOTALLY the biggest story teller I have ever heard. If I ever get really bored I will read some of your concockions."

In fact, conspiracy is very plausible. People who control a grossly disproportionate share of the world's wealth will take measures to consolidate their position. They will destabilize the public by inciting a series of wars and other mind-boggling hoaxes (communism, lesbian feminism, multiculturalism). They will subvert faith in a loving God and promote violence and depravity (Satan) instead.

The government-inspired 9-11 atrocity proves a satanic cult controls the US. Bush and his accomplices are criminals, traitors and impostors. But don't look to the Democrats for salvation. Leading contender Sen. John Kerry is also Skull and Bones (Class of 1966.)

The "War on Terror" is obviously designed to forestall domestic opposition and condition people to further subjugation and new world order. What can we do?

Antony Sutton had it right when he said opposition should be individual in character. It should "take ten thousand or a million forms."
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:28 AM   #13
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Protests against central banks attack the elite's most fundamental dominant social theme, which is the way the money is produced in the modern age.
In every downtown of every major city are dozens of banks, many with towering headquarters. Row after row of commercial banks. Banking is the best business to be in because the people who "make" money (literally) will never ever seemingly let a bank go bankrupt. Banks are the sacred cows of the modern age.

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Infowars Host Alex Jones and His Followers Occupy the Dallas Fed ... Alex Jones amongst fans and followers. At Friday evening's "End the Fed" rally, two groups of protesters, Occupy Dallas and Occupy the Federal Reserve, lined opposite sides of N. Pearl Street at Woodall Rodgers in front of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. "We got sold out, Feds got bailed out!" Occupy Dallas protesters shouted in unison on the west side of Pearl. And, all around them, the Occupy the Federal Reserve crowd -- consisting of fans and followers of Dallas-born, Austin-based radio-show host Alex Jones -- had their own mantra: "End the Fed, End the Fed!" – Dallas Observer

Dominant Social Theme: What a shock. An interesting spectacle, though. What exactly is the Federal Reserve and who are these people?

Free-Market Analysis: Alex Jones and Occupy Wall Street both protested in front of the Dallas Fed on Friday and the result was unusual: Mainstream news coverage. The Dallas Observer ran a fairly significant piece on the protestors featuring Jones himself. What's the Dallas Observer? Here a blurb from their website:

If you want to know what's happening in Dallas, keep your eye on the Observer. Over the past eighteen years, the Dallas Observer has grown from a small weekly to a major force in this city, where the paper is known for its hard-edged investigative stories about government, politics and business, as well as its pointed, provocative coverage of sports, music and the arts. In recent years, the Observer has collected numerous journalism awards, including the Missouri Lifestyle Journalism Award for general excellence, which lauded the paper for the compelling package it puts out each week. And Dallas readers agree: Every Wednesday, 100,000 copies land on newsstands around the city—and disappear within hours.

That these protests against central banks are actually happening in the US is enough to create a shiver down the spine of those who compose the power elite and their corporate, military and religious enablers. Such a protest would have been unheard of in the 20th century.

Those who doubt the reality of the Internet Reformation might want to reconsider. The Internet is a process not an episode. Every day, there are more changes in the way people conceive of their reality thanks to the Internet.

Protests against central banks, and there are more planned by Jones and apparently by libertarian elements of the Occupy Wall Street movement, attack the elite's most fundamental dominant social theme, which is the way the money is produced in the modern age.

No less a luminary than John Maynard Keynes said famously that not one man in a million understood how money was produced. But that was then – 60 years ago – and this is now. Thanks to the Internet many people understand that the central banks print money from nothing and then loan or give that fiat currency to their colleagues who populate the financial industry.

In fact, while the mainstream media is filled with articles about making sure that banks don't founder, the reality is entirely different. The world is overbanked thanks to central banking itself. Banks are in the biggest bubble of all – and a bubble that is never, ever mentioned.

In every downtown of every major city are dozens of banks, many with towering headquarters. Row after row of commercial banks. Banking is the best business to be in because the people who "make" money (literally) will never ever seemingly let a bank go bankrupt.

Banks are the sacred cows of the modern age. In this age, banks can only be "recapitalized" so that they can continue to carry out their most important functions. Of course, we can't quite figure out what those are. It's a given that people need banks for business loans, but it hasn't always been that way. In fact, many start-ups never use bank money at all.

In a lot of ways banks are fairly useless entities. In the modern era banks and securities trading firms have been downright detrimental to Western civilization. They've enshrined a system of destructive monetary stimulation and corporatism (monetary gigantism) that has come to a crashing halt as the system increasingly severed the link between investment and price information.

That's what monetary overstimulation does. Print too much money, "bail out" too many "important" businesses and gradually no one knows what business is solvent and what is not. No one wants to invest in anything of significance because no one can figure out what business is significant and what business is merely being propped up.

The solution to all of this may be a planned reconsideration of modern society and economics, but more likely what will happen is the system will simply unravel. It is obvious that the power elite that has built this system believes they can transition to global governance and a single currency, central bank, etc.

They may be overestimating the control they have over the situation in the Internet era. People are angry and growing angrier. And thanks to technology and the information it provides, people are far more sophisticated about the way the system works than they were in Keynes's day.

Within this context it is important to mention not only what is going on with central banking but where people expect the system might end up – especially in the US. Many are eager to transfer the system of money printing from central banks like the Federal Reserve to PUBLIC central banks that would be under the control of federal and state officials.

For this reason the PRIVATE nature of central banking is often emphasized, though the Fed is not by any means entirely a private entity. In fact, it didn't even come into being until an Act of Congress was passed in 1913 authorizing it. Central banks like the Fed are what we call mercantilist. (Mercantilism.)

That is they hide behind the power and authority of government to pursue private business goals. They use the color of government for private gain. Inevitably they are not entirely private entities. They cannot be.

Central bank apologists like Ellen Brown have campaigned to ensure that people believe central banks like the Fed are ENTIRELY private when they are not. This is because "Brownians" (and others) want to propose that central banks be owned outright by public entities.

But both Chinese and Indian central banks are owned by the state as we understand it and the abuses, corruption and inflation are no better in these countries than in America. The problem is CENTRAL BANKING and printing money from nothing. The problem is not who owns the bank. The problem is the paper it prints.

The only way to rationalize the money system is via a competitive money system that will doubtless resolve itself as it always has throughout history into a private gold and silver standard. Probably it would be one that would use both Real Bills and private fractional banking.

But the most important thing would be that supply and demand would moderate the money supply. When too much gold and silver circulated, the price of money would go down and people would begin to hoard and mines would close. As the price of money went up, people would dishoard and mines would likely open back up.

Thus, the private sector would moderate the money supply. What Brownians and others want is for central banking money-printing operations to be owned by the public. But this would not make any difference when it came to the money supply. A handful of people within the banking industry would STILL have to decide how much money to print.

Inevitably, when human judgment is used to determine the money supply, humans get it wrong. Usually too much money is printed and a ruinous business cycle commences. Brownians also argue that money would be issued into the community without debt, but this would not make a difference to the fundamental issue, which is one of overprinting money itself.

Gary North over at LewRockwell.com and on his own blogsite has provided a good deal of [INSIGHTFUL] commentary on the Brownian solution. (It should be noted that Ms. Brown feels Gary North's attacks are overly personal, and she has stopped responding to them.)

Anyway, too much money causes businesses to over-expand. And when the collapse happens it does not matter how much money is in circulation. If there is no demand for goods and services, no amount of money will make a difference. People will still go broke. The misery will still recommence

Anyway, too much money causes businesses to over-expand. And when the collapse happens it does not matter how much money is in circulation. If there is no demand for goods and services, no amount of money will make a difference. People will still go broke. The misery will still recommence.

The protests against the Fed and cental banking generally are encouraging. But we have noticed that Brownian ideas about public central banking are gaining in popularity, as we knew they would. Too bad. They are better than what we have now, but only marginally.

History shows us that gold and silver freely circulating are preferable to central banks, even public ones. The US founding fathers understood this. The US itself was founded on gold and silver. To expect central banking to work in the future any better than it has in the past just because it is "public" rather than "private" is simply a delusion.

Conclusion: If it must be tried, it should be attempted within the ambit of monetary competition and without naming the central bank printed money as the sole legal tender. When it comes to money, private markets should have a chance to compete. Absent the force of law, they will win every time.
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:19 AM   #14
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Interesting booklet on Islamic solution to paper money based financial system.



Islam and the Future of Money

http://www.imranhosein.org/books/103...-of-money.html

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There should also be no delay in reaching out this booklet, in as many languages as possible, to as many Muslim communities as possible. For this reason there is no copyright claim on this publication. Those, on the other hand, who dismiss the basic arguments of this booklet, will find themselves in a quandary when those evil events unfold in the world of money.

I must enter into the record my pride and happiness over the efforts made by a simple and humble former Malaysian banker, Nik Mahani Mohamad, who was involved in the initial effort to establish Islamic Banking
in Malaysia. Her eyes were opened to the fraudulent nature of much of socalled Islamic banking when she attended my lecture on the subject at the Royal Malaysian Mint a few years ago. She turned around, changed course, and proceeded with courage, integrity and passionate commitment to promote the cause of the Gold Dinar and a true Riba-free economy. Both she and my dear student, Shirazuddin Adam Shah, were involved in organising the ‘International Conference on the Gold Dinar Economy’ which was held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, in July 2007, and in which the initial text of this booklet was presented as a paper.
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Old 02-21-2012, 05:47 AM   #15
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If the world is indeed run by corporate-financier interests, and voting is not only futile but gives the population a false sense of security, what can we do instead to declare our independence from modern empire of the bankers ?

Find local solutions, pursue self-sufficiency, self-reliance, and leverage technology to do for ourselves tomorrow what we depend on corporations to do for us today. We can start today, by simply "voting" local with our wallets, "voting" to read, watch, and listen to truly independent media instead of Hollywood - or better yet - creating our own content ourselves. The same could be said with the news. Stop humoring the professional liars on BBC who get caught in serial scams involving paid-for documentaries, biased reporting, and flat out lying to their audience. There is a thriving alternative media that already proves the merits of doing more, doing better, and doing it all ourselves.

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"They need us, we don’t need them. That’s the big secret. We get our freedom back as soon as we take back our responsibilities for food, water, security, the monetary system, power, and manufacturing; that is independence. Independence is freedom, freedom is independence. We’ll never be free as long as we depend on the Fortune 500 for our survival.
Fixing these problems unfolding overseas starts with fixing the problems in our own backyards. Boycott the globalists, cut off their support, undermine their system, and they lose their ability to commit these atrocities. That will be a real revolution and it can start today. Not burning cities and masked rebels waving flags, but communities no longer dependent and fueling a corrupt system we all know must come to an end.
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We have long argued that an Internet Reformation is taking place across the world and that it is challenging the one-worldism the elites are trying to implement. We think the fear-based promotions – dominant social themes – that the powers-that-be use to try to control the masses are failing as a result.

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Decision to hold referendum surprises many across EU ... The decision to hold a referendum could have profound consequences for the country's future prosperity has caused some surprise in other European Union capitals. In an unexpected intervention in the Dáil yesterday, Taoiseach Enda Kenny announced that a referendum would be held on the European Stability Treaty. Mr Kenny said he strongly believed that it was "very much in Ireland's national interest" that the treaty be approved by the people. No date has been set for the referendum but it is expected to take place in May or June ... Dr Günther Krichbaum, CDU European spokesman in parliament, said the question Ireland had to vote on was: "Do we want to stand together, do we want a stable and prospering union from which future generations can benefit?" – Irish Times

Dominant Social Theme: These pesky Irish! There are five million of them and 400 million Europeans. Here's a solution. If the Irish are so skeptical of continental rule from Brussels, they can simply go away. We're wiping them out economically via "austerity," but we'd be glad to speed up the process by military means. Say, the Brits really had the right idea. There are really only two solutions to the Irish problem: famine or the sword. Maybe both.

Free-Market Analysis: What the heck are the Irish up to now? Nobody else is going to have a referendum on the European Stability Treaty! It's the last best hope to keep the EU solvent and to knit it into one happy nation like the US.

You know, the Germans said it was unconstitutional and then backed down. And the Germans are way better people that the Irish. That's right. Just better!

More industrious. Bigger brains. Certainly more disciplined. What do the Irish ever do besides frequent pubs, sing drinking songs and scribble in notebooks?

WE don't believe that, of course, dear reader. But we can hear the whining and complaining all the way from Brussels. They were, perhaps, caught by surprise by this latest eruption of democracy.

The Eurocrats hated it last time when the Irish voted not once but twice on a treaty that gave the EU quasi-constitutional powers. Those powers had been enshrined in a "constitution" – but it was an unpopular one and was voted down by the Irish and even by the French.

The constitution was rewritten as the Treaty of Lisbon – so that the "common people" of Europe would not have to vote on it. It was then promptly passed by various European parliaments. Only the Irish remained outliers.

Enormous pressure was brought on the Irish. Eventually, the Treaty was approved and by 2009 it came into force. Ireland's economy was collapsing by then and the Eurocrats from Brussels promptly descended on Ireland to implement "austerity."

This was part of the plan, of course. The mild-mannered Eurocrats intended to place their boot on the Irish throat – the combined throat of Europe, in fact. The cynical laughter could be heard all the way to Brussels. The fools! The Irish, pressured incessantly by their own elites, had provided the tools of their own demise.

And yet ... the Southern Europeans are not going as quietly as was perhaps expected. The Spanish rioted again yesterday. And the Greeks, meanwhile, are in full-cry over the "austerity" programs that the EU elites have been trying to inflict on that wretched country. Now, perhaps, the Irish shall conduct their riot via the ballot box.

We recently posted a video entitled "Irish Bulldog Vincent Browne Pounds EU's Klaus Masuch Over the Irish Bank Bailout." You can see it here.

At the time, we pointed out the following: "In this YouTube clip we can watch Browne absolutely blow apart the arguments of EU and ECB banking representatives regarding the responsibility of the Irish to pay billions and billions to make European banks solvent for their poor investments in Irish real estate. It's a kind of tour-de-force."

We figure that Browne's fury is likely shared by a number of his countrymen. Attending an EU press conference, Browne was blunt about the EU's deeds regarding Ireland. At one point, he accused Masuch of participating in the degradation and financial ruin of Irish society. Masuch smirks. No answer, though.

Masuch is German but it is not the Germans that are behind the EU but the Anglosphere power elite – Jewish, Vatican, corporate, military and royalist interests – that are trying to build a one-world government.

The EU is a big stepping-stone toward one-world government and the elites are determined to perpetuate it. Someday the full story about how the Anglosphere elites maneuvered behind the scenes to build the EU via bribery and threats will be told. But right now it seems to us that, unexpectedly, the entire project may be in jeopardy.

We have long argued that an Internet Reformation is taking place across the world and that it is challenging the one-worldism the elites are trying to implement. We think the fear-based promotions – dominant social themes – that the powers-that-be use to try to control the masses are failing as a result.

Too many know too much now. As a result, such memes as global warming and Keynesian central banking (to name just two) have come under relentless attack. The ongoing unraveling (if it is that) is likely extending to the EU.

Of course, some of the EU's problems were not only anticipated but actually desired. The top men of the EU – those who directly or indirectly report to the handful of impossibly monied elites that apparently run the world – actually hoped for the current Euro-depression, certainly in Southern Europe.

They had plans to build a "closer" union from the economic wreckage that would result. And this they have begun to do. But hasn't the Internet complicated their task considerably? It has spread the word about this foul plot and interfered in the spread of pro-EU government propaganda.

Even recently, we'd argue, there have been setbacks to this strategy. So ... look on it as a game of chess. The Anglosphere elites (ironic that they work out of the City of London) have been forced to sacrifice, at least to some degree, Britain itself.

Greece has proven a good deal more fractious perhaps than anticipated. And even the docile German public is proving resistant to the bailouts that the PIGS shall demand.

Previously, France itself, a prime motor of the EU, voted AGAINST a constitution that the Eurocrats wanted to implement, along with several other countries including the Irish. And now the Irish are threatening to upset EU plans AGAIN.

The Irish Times carried the article, above, that we excerpted but in the same edition we find another article entitled "Barroso Says Passing Treaty is in Ireland's Interest."

This silk-suited thug, as we have referred to him, is unenthusiastic about the Irish planned vote. Democracy is so "inconvenient" sometimes. Here's some more from the second article:

European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso has said passing the European fiscal compact treaty is in Ireland's interest. Speaking at a news conference in Brussels today Mr Barroso said the treaty would help to rebuild the Irish economy but ultimately it was up to each member state to decide on whether to approve it or not.

Earlier, Minister for European Affairs Lucinda Creighton said it would "send a very negative signal to investors" if voters fail to pass a referendum on the treaty. It also emerged today the vote on the fiscal compact would be held separately from other referendums planned this year.

It would be "very difficult" if Ireland were the only euro-area country not to ratify the treaty, Ms Creighton said. "It's not just a treaty for Ireland but one for all of the euro zone, and it's really about putting in place rules that are going to help the Irish currency, which is the euro, to stabilise," she told RTÉ's Morning Ireland programme.

Barroso and the rest of the Eurocrats DON'T want this sort of referendum. His protests are NOT disingenuous, in our view. Britain has already more definitively spun out of the EU orbit, Greece is on its way and now the Irish may be gone as well.

No matter what happens with the Irish vote, we'd argue that the amount of push-back the Eurocrats are currently experiencing is well beyond what they expected when they first anticipated that an economic crisis would allow them to tighten their control over these fractious nation-states.

From the Daily Bell's very beginnings (and long before that) we've argued that when the militant tribes of Europe discovered that centralization was no longer in their self-interest they'd begin to dissent.

These various tribes constitute some of the most militant and violent peoples in the world – from time to time anyway – with a continuous history of violence and warfare. The idea that they would meekly consent to impoverishment and authoritarianism after a half-century of relative peace and prosperity always seemed more theoretical than realistic to us.


Now Barroso, a socialist and one of the continent's top Eurocrats, is worried about a potential Irish referendum. He and the others are fighting many battles at the same time. It is a multi-front war, never a desirable strategic environment. No, it's likely not as easy as they thought to take over a continent by subterfuge when your every move is being reported and debated electronically.

Conclusion: Perhaps he and the other Eurocrats will have to take over the Internet before they can consolidate Europe. Good luck with that.
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Ever wonder why usury based currency is so attractive to the bankers ? Check this.

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Interest free currency is the main solution. Debt free Government currencies are a quick fix, but far from ideal. Much better is Public Banking, which is
interest free credit provided by state-owned banks. But eventually the Illuminati (Masonic Jewish) monopoly of currencies must end.
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So far , I have found few Muslim groups trying to establish an alternative economic model. One such group has set up a mint. Check these links
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