[Pippoles]

Well I know the members of this forum love this guy, so I couldn't resist.

Dr sahib is on his dorah (visit)of india at the moment and despite calls from e.g.t he barelvi and the deobandi ulema of gujrat, MILLIONS of indian muslims have come out to listen to him speak, and receive a positive response.

Infact the these Gujrat ulema even got desperate enough to claim that he had praised the state minister, who was the same person head at the time of hindu-muslim riots in 2002, when all he said was a thank you for the security. I think it was top level security, like that provided for a leader of another state. (level Z or something like that).

Now I can see why these ulema are jealous, i've seen pictures of the audience, they are in the millions from newspaper reports.

His last talk in bangalore attracted atleast upto a million people and the TV audience was reported to to be in the tens of millions approaching 100 million people. quite good for a padri, right?

Gets better, this talk in bagalore coincided with a pop concert of a top famous current western musician (David Guetta) which had to finish early because of this gathering. Masallah.

so the question: The debandi ulema have said don't listen to his talks (i wonder why) and the barelvi ulema openly talk against him now, so Who are these people turning out to his speeches? Mossad agents? ISI Agents? CIA?

[grubnismarl]

Well I know the members of this forum love this guy, so I couldn't resist.

Dr sahib is on his dorah (visit)of india at the moment and despite calls from e.g.t he barelvi and the deobandi ulema of gujrat, MILLIONS of indian muslims have come out to listen to him speak, and receive a positive response.

Infact the these Gujrat ulema even got desperate enough to claim that he had praised the state minister, who was the same person head at the time of hindu-muslim riots in 2002, when all he said was a thank you for the security. I think it was top level security, like that provided for a leader of another state. (level Z or something like that).

Now I can see why these ulema are jealous, i've seen pictures of the audience, they are in the millions from newspaper reports.

His last talk in bangalore attracted atleast upto a million people and the TV audience was reported to to be in the tens of millions approaching 100 million people. quite good for a padri, right?

Gets better, this talk in bagalore coincided with a pop concert of a top famous current western musician (David Guetta) which had to finish early because of this gathering. Masallah.

so the question: The debandi ulema have said don't listen to his talks (i wonder why) and the barelvi ulema openly talk against him now, so Who are these people turning out to his speeches? Mossad agents? ISI Agents? CIA?

see this link and read books named"YEH HAIN TAHIR-UL-QADRI"
http://www.syedanzarshahqasmi.in/haqkibaat1.html

[Pippoles]

He is in India. A country proud of it's one billion + population. Whats so difficult to arrange a crowd of millions. The food must be free and tasty.

For the TV audience, it was predictable. The masses wanted to witness the next Rajni Kant.

It was the largest gathering in the states history

[Pippoles]

see this link and read books named"YEH HAIN TAHIR-UL-QADRI"
http://www.syedanzarshahqasmi.in/haqkibaat1.html

books are in "udru" anything similar in English. i would like to join the group too. it feels good to be part of a group. So I can laugh and say haha look what this other group is doing.

[Pippoles]

Of Course; of FOOLS.

Takes one to know one, see we can also play these games.

Ad hominems after Ad hominems. Nice weapon this is in a discussion. But does it count?

unfortunately not, try again.

[Pippoles]

Then you have to accept it as the biggest gathering of FOOLS.

You'd eat your words when you find out which ulema DID attend his talks, depending on if you're from India or not.

anyway back to the serious business of Ad hominems,

"Takes ONE to know ONE, so thats how you know that each and every ONE of those muslims was a fool".

See we are not bad at this game either. Ad hominems are easy to throw around, kuffar used to throw these around at the prophet and the early muslims when they didn't have anything to say.

[Pippoles]

Moulana Mufti Khaleel Ahmed VICE-CHANCELLOR of the Jamia Nizamiyah of hydrabad was present and seated on stage at the bangolare speech.

[SergZHy67]

My dear boys,
An opinion is one of the most expensive things that we bear.
That is what you are doing.
It is better to annihilate our opinion.
When we open our mouth we should speak Islam.
Otherwise we should keep silent.
Let me give you an example. Hazrat Hakim Akhtar Sahab(DB) served Hazrat Abdul Ghani Sahab Phoolpuri (RA) for 17 years. And during this period he did not give any single bayaan.
And when started giving bayaans then also it was on his Shaikh's explicit instructions.
What is the moral of the story?
We should try to give up all and any opinion that we have.
I can assure you that whenever I personally had any difficult time about my words it was because of my opinion only. The useless thing called opinion.
When someone does not want to listen to your words of faith, belief, imaan and Islam then it is easy to walk the respective paths.
Opinions usually get you entangled.
May Allah (SWT) give us the taufeeq to annihilate our opinion in imaan, Islam, ihsaan.
Ameen.

[Pippoles]

Ok, i eat my words. It was the biggest gathering to witness and listen to a Fool.

You keep dropping yourself into it, takes one to know one.

[GrolmangHat27]

You keep dropping yourself into it, takes one to know one.

Sorry! I make amends. Deleted all Foolish posts.

[Pippoles]

Moulana Mufti Khaleel Ahmed VICE-CHANCELLOR of the Jamia Nizamiyah of hydrabad was present and seated on stage at the bangolare speech.

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[Intiltern]

@Saqqib_Ali : Asalamu Aleikum , May ALLAH give Tahir Qadri long life , he is preaching true Islam and preaching Teachings of Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani (R.A) we need people like him , coz nowadays only extreme version of Islam is seen nowadays

[thierabess]

@Saqqib_Ali : Asalamu Aleikum , May ALLAH give Tahir Qadri long life , he is preaching true Islam and preaching Teachings of Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani (R.A) we need people like him , coz nowadays only extreme version of Islam is seen nowadays

Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani was a Wahhabi.

[Intiltern]

Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani was a Wahhabi.

Lolz . . . this is new thing i have heard now

[Pippoles]

Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani was a Wahhabi.

You mean the one who started the qadriyya tariqqa? The one who is known in the sub continent as gaus-e-azam.

Brother hanbali isn't the same as wahabi

[Lilji]

May Allah Ta'ala save us from the fitnah of the ulama-e-soo.

[Pippoles]

May Allah Ta'ala save us from the fitnah of the ulama-e-soo.

one telling quality of these ulema is that they are quick to make takfeer of others (including other scholars) and sell their iman for monetary gain.

Dr Tahir ul Qadri resigned from the national assembly of pakistan 'cos he didn't think it had the role it should have. Where is there more money in pakistan except for in politics. He was the first one to resign in the history of it, last person being the founder of Pakistan (Muhammad Ali Jinnah). He could have made CRORES if he wanted.

[thierabess]

You mean the one who started the qadriyya tariqqa? The one who is known in the sub continent as gaus-e-azam.

Brother hanbali isn't the same as wahabi

well he believed that Allah is above the throne in his essence....

[Pippoles]

well he believed that Allah is above the throne in his essence....

If you're trying to claim him(RA) then that's understandable, but we can always share.

[8Uxtkz7F]

Numbers are no proof.

There have always been more kuffar in this world than Muslims.