[tsamprasxx]

If so, then explain what sharia says about dhikr?

Anything that goes against the shari'ah in the slightest of manner. As the example I provided before of qawwalis, people actually believe these to be religiously sanctioned - when music is haraam. Another example is dancing (at least in the Hanafi madhhab), which is not permissible. Also, imitating the non-Muslims is of course out of the picture. An example of that would be how the Buddhists have a lot of their mantra written on rotating spindles and just rotating a spindle is considered sufficient for prayer.

I too have a question, some salafis asked me about Sufi dikhirs like in the Naqhbandiya tariqah. Are they biddah ? :jzk:

There are different shuyukh who follow the Naqshbandi tariqah - some adhere to the sunnah and some are in clear violation of it. One of the most famous proponents of this tariqah is clearly in violation of the shari'ah by allowing music, mixed gatherings, touching women, etc. On the other hand, true Naqshbandiyah does not involve itself in such evil actions. A true Sufi would be angered by an omission of a sunnah, let alone committing something that is haraam.

[MgpojuWy]

There are different shuyukh who follow the Naqshbandi tariqah - some adhere to the sunnah and some are in clear violation of it. One of the most famous proponents of this tariqah is clearly in violation of the shari'ah by allowing music, mixed gatherings, touching women, etc. On the other hand, true Naqshbandiyah does not involve itself in such evil actions. A true Sufi would be angered by an omission of a sunnah, let alone committing something that is haraam. Jazakallah Khair, so the dhikrs in the tariqahs that do not have basis in Shariah are haram ?

[tsamprasxx]

Jazakallah Khair, so the dhikrs in the tariqahs that do not have basis in Shariah are haram ?

Methods of dhikr that go against the shari'ah are haraam. If they don't do so but there is no explicit mention of them in the sunnah, they are not necessarily haraam. Many awraad are not from the sunnah but they were recited by pious people and they were found to be helpful. Some ways of dhikr are also not necessarily from the sunnah but can be extrapolated from the sunnah, such as the concept of muraqaba.

[MgpojuWy]

Methods of dhikr that go against the shari'ah are haraam. If they don't do so but there is no explicit mention of them in the sunnah, they are not necessarily haraam. Many awraad are not from the sunnah but they were recited by pious people and they were found to be helpful. Some ways of dhikr are also not necessarily from the sunnah but can be extrapolated from the sunnah, such as the concept of muraqaba.

Jazakallah

[gernica]

JazakAllahu Khair for the information but could you go deeper?

What exactly does the hanafi madhab and sharia say about this? If you know.