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More Taqiyya being evident this thread.

For the truth visit this link: http://islamistruth.wordpress.com/20...-vs-falsehood/

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More Taqiyya being evident this thread.

For the truth visit this link: http://islamistruth.wordpress.com/20...-vs-falsehood/

you know what brother , your replies remind me of non muslims , when ever i try to give dawah to them about Islam , this is the reply i always get that i am lying :P

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More Taqiyya being evident this thread.

hey check this


A Muslim asked: "Oh Apostle of God(S), who are your kin whom you have ordered us to obey?" He replied, "Ali (R), Fatimah (R), and her two sons."
al-Suyuti, Dur al-Manthur, vol.7, p.7 ; ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Tafsir al-Tabari, vol.5, p.16 ; al-Fakhr al-Razi, al-Tafsir, vol.7, p.406 ; ibn Hajar al-Haythami, al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, p.102 ; Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, Dhakha‘ir al-Uqba, p.25 ; al-Shablanji, Nur al-Absar, p.100.

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Hey check this:

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 8 (Sahih Bukhari)

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas(ra):

The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken Abu Bakr, but he is my brother and my companion (in Islam)."

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Hey check this:

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 8 (Sahih Bukhari)

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas(ra):

The Prophet said, "If I were to take a Khalil, I would have taken Abu Bakr, but he is my brother and my companion (in Islam)."

khalil means Friend , and it shows Virtues Of Hazrat Abu Bakr (R) , but Obeying order was for Hazrat Ali(R) and Rasul PAk(S) said that , not me

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khalil means Friend , and it shows Virtues Of Hazrat Abu Bakr (R) , but Obeying order was for Hazrat Ali(R) and Rasul PAk(S) said that , not me

From Sahih Bukhari:
A woman came to the Prophet (sas) and he ordered her to come back later. Whe said: What if I come don't find you? (indicating his death). He (sas) said: "If you don't find me, then go to Abu Bakr."

Why wasn't it Hazrat Ali (ra) ?

Also Ali(ra) himself says:

Sahih BUKHARI:
Volume 5, Book 57, Number 20:

Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya:

I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib(ra)), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?"
He said, "Abu Bakr(ra)." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar(ra). "
I was afraid he would say "Uthman(ra), so I said, "Then you?"
He said, "I am only an ordinary person. "

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From Sahih Bukhari:
A woman came to the Prophet (sas) and he ordered her to come back later. Whe said: What if I come don't find you? (indicating his death). He (sas) said: "If you don't find me, then go to Abu Bakr."

Why wasn't it Hazrat Ali (ra) ?

Also Ali(ra) himself says:

Sahih BUKHARI:
Volume 5, Book 57, Number 20:

Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiya:

I asked my father ('Ali bin Abi Talib(ra)), "Who are the best people after Allah's Apostle ?"
He said, "Abu Bakr(ra)." I asked, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar(ra). "
I was afraid he would say "Uthman(ra), so I said, "Then you?"
He said, "I am only an ordinary person. "

dear , Trust me , i have researched lots , lots , lots on internet , after that research i have come to the conclusion , of which i told in my other post , i dont want to be argumentive , i have so much hadiths on Hazrat Ali (R) , you wont have any answer in the end

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dear , Trust me , i have researched lots , lots , lots on internet , after that research i have come to the conclusion , of which i told in my other post , i dont want to be argumentive , i have so much hadiths on Hazrat Ali (R) , you wont have any answer in the end

Well your 'internet' research is no match of the research of the Scholars of Islam:

1) Imam al-Aazam Abu Hanifah in Fiqh Al-Akbar:

The most superior and the best of all men after prophets – blessings and peace upon them – is Abu Bakr as-Siddiq. And then, Umar ibn al-Khattab al-Faruq. And then Uthman ibn Affan Dhu’n Nurayn. And then ali ibn Abu talib al-Murtada. May Allah be well pleased with them all; they were worshippers and steadfast on Truth and sided with Truth. We love all of them. [Fiqh Al-Akbar]

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2) Imam al-Nawawi said in his Fatawa:

"Know that each of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is better than 'Ali according to the Consensus (ijma') of Ahl al-Sunna. The proofs for this in well-known sound hadiths are too famous and countless to be listed." [Fatawa Imam Nawawi, Page 264]

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Well your 'internet' research is no match of the research of the Scholars of Islam:

1) Imam al-Aazam Abu Hanifah in Fiqh Al-Akbar:

The most superior and the best of all men after prophets – blessings and peace upon them – is Abu Bakr as-Siddiq. And then, Umar ibn al-Khattab al-Faruq. And then Uthman ibn Affan Dhu’n Nurayn. And then ali ibn Abu talib al-Murtada. May Allah be well pleased with them all; they were worshippers and steadfast on Truth and sided with Truth. We love all of them. [Fiqh Al-Akbar]

give me reference if Imam Abu Hanifa Said that , then i follow him coz he was true lover of Ahle Bait

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give me reference if Imam Abu Hanifa Said that , then i follow him coz he was true lover of Ahle Bait

Imam al-Aazam Abu Hanifa gave one of the pithiest definitions of Sunnism in Islam:

"The doctrine of Ahl al-Sunna wal-Jama'a consists in preferring the Two Shaykhs (tafdil al-shaykhayn) [i.e. Abu Bakr and 'Umar over the rest], loving the Two Sons-in-law (hubb al-khatanayn) [i.e. 'Ali and 'Uthman], and [deeming lawful the] wiping on leather socks [in ablution] (al-mas-h 'alal-khuffayn) [i.e. all three contrary to Shi'is]."
[Khulasat al-Fatawa, Vol. 2, Page 381]

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Ahle Sunnat says differently , Shias different , Salafis Different , Tahir Qadri different view, sigh whom to follow

[juptVatoSoito]

Ahle Sunnat says differently , Shias different , Salafis Different , Tahir Qadri different view, sigh whom to follow

Follow the Scholars of Ahle sunnah wal Jamma'. Their consensus on the matter of Abu Bakr As-Sideeq (ra)'s superiority over others is crystal clear. Avoid Shia like the plague. Just follow the Hanafi Madhab in your ibadah.

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Amr123 ignore the ignorant

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Follow the Scholars of Ahle sunnah wal Jamma'. Their consensus on the matter of Abu Bakr As-Sideeq (ra)'s superiority over others is crystal clear. Avoid Shia like the plague. Just follow the Hanafi Madhab in your ibadah.

ok recently Tahir Qadris view confused me much more , i read his book on ghadeer declaration , his view is Hazrat Ali(R) is successor of every muslim Spiritually

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ok recently Tahir Qadris view confused me much more , i read his book on ghadeer declaration , his view is Hazrat Ali(R) is successor of every muslim Spiritually

Brother, Tahir Qadri is supposed to be barelvi, but even the barelvis reject him. So you can imagine how valid his opinion is.

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Assalamu alaykum

Ahle Sunnat says differently , Shias different , Salafis Different , Tahir Qadri different view, sigh whom to follow As earlier, you can continue to follow the shias.

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You need to be careful while watching lectures and reading stuff from the 'internet'. Make sure you follow the scholars of mainstream Islam. I can help you understand the correct history after the Prophet if you want. If you are willing to take the effort, I shall post the links of the books on the history of the first four rightly guided Caliphs.

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Imam al-Aazam Abu Hanifa gave one of the pithiest definitions of Sunnism in Islam:

"The doctrine of Ahl al-Sunna wal-Jama'a consists in preferring the Two Shaykhs (tafdil al-shaykhayn) [i.e. Abu Bakr and 'Umar over the rest], loving the Two Sons-in-law (hubb al-khatanayn) [i.e. 'Ali and 'Uthman], and [deeming lawful the] wiping on leather socks [in ablution] (al-mas-h 'alal-khuffayn) [i.e. all three contrary to Shi'is]."
[Khulasat al-Fatawa, Vol. 2, Page 381]

thanks for this ,

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You need to be careful while watching lectures and reading stuff from the 'internet'. Make sure you follow the scholars of mainstream Islam. I can help you understand the correct history after the Prophet if you want. If you are willing to take the effort, I shall post the links of the books on the history of the first four rightly guided Caliphs.

of course i want to know , but only authentic sources , in which thre are no fabricated history ,, send me some links of books as well as website where i can get authentic knowledge