[hasasnn2345tv]

Salam

I have noticed that we tend to be good at advising others. But we tend to be off the mark when advising ourselves. Is it because of hypocrisy ? or is it because the believer is a mirror of a believer? Or should we consider it as a seperate duty obligated upon us because of the, say better knowledge we possess, compared to the person being advised ?

[juptVatoSoito]

This is one my fears.

Narrated Abu Wail: Somebody said to Usama,
"Will you go to so-and-so (i.e. 'Uthman) and talk to him (i.e. advise him regarding ruling the country)?"
He said, "You see that I don't talk to him. Really I talk to (advise) him secretly without opening a gate (of affliction), for neither do I want to be the first to open it (i.e. rebellion), nor will I say to a man who is my ruler that he is the best of all the people after I have heard something from Allah s Apostle ."
They said, What have you heard him saying?
He said, "I have heard him saying, "A man will be brought on the Day of Resurrection and thrown in the (Hell) Fire, so that his intestines will come out, and he will go around like a donkey goes around a millstone. The people of (Hell) Fire will gather around him and say: O so-and-so! What is wrong with you? Didn't you use to order us to do good deeds and forbid us to do bad deeds?
He will reply: Yes, I used to order you to do good deeds, but I did not do them myself, and
I used to forbid you to do bad deeds, yet I used to do them myself."
(Bukhari, Book #54, Hadith #489)

[ServiceColas]

Salam

I have noticed that we tend to be good at advising others. But we tend to be off the mark when advising ourselves. Is it because of hypocrisy ? or is it because the believer is a mirror of a believer? Or should we consider it as a seperate duty obligated upon us because of the, say better knowledge we possess, compared to the person being advised ?

I feel the exact same way everytime i post on SF! But i tell myself that at least we can try to help others if we can't help ourselves...

[Gymngatagaica]

for this reminder to us muslims..

yes..hypocrisy disliked by Allah swt...there is one Ayat which i will summarise..'why do say when u urself don't do it..( ..i will post the exact ayat in a bit)

[dosugxxx]

sister

I think you mean the verse "Li ma taqooluna ma la taf'aloon" ie "Why do you say that which you do not do"

However my teacher had told me the verse did not have to do with preaching what one doesn't follow. Rather it means saying you did something when you really had not done it.

eg I say I fasted this week when I had actually not fasted at all.

[Gymngatagaica]

sister

I think you mean the verse "Li ma taqooluna ma la taf'aloon" ie "Why do you say that which you do not do"

However my teacher had told me the verse did not have to do with preaching what one doesn't follow. Rather it means saying you did something when you really had not done it.

eg I say I fasted this week when I had actually not fasted at all.

sister

..yes..exactly i was talking about the same ayat..

i will double check tafseer of this ayat...

[Buildityrit]

I think there are two reasons why people are good at advising others but not themselves. And neither reason has anything to do with hypocrisy.

1. It's easier to give good advice to other people because you are able to view their situation objectively. When thinking about yourself, it's much harder to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

2. To have knowledge (ilm) and to act on that knowledge are two different things. In other words, you might know what the right thing to do is and might be able to advise other people accordingly. But when it comes to yourself, you might not be able to do it due to a weakness in character.

[Gozmand]

Also, bearing in mind that we constantly struggle to better ourselves, on a forum like SF all good advice serves as a reminder for the giver and the receiver - whether we heed it (at that moment) or not. Insha'Allah, all reminders are good.... that is advice/reminders only as reiterations of advice already given to us in Islam.

I think it would be different if the person was reprimanding or scolding other(s) when they themselves don't take heed... then that would possibly be hypocrisy.

[Aafimoq]

sister

I think you mean the verse "Li ma taqooluna ma la taf'aloon" ie "Why do you say that which you do not do"

However my teacher had told me the verse did not have to do with preaching what one doesn't follow. Rather it means saying you did something when you really had not done it.

eg I say I fasted this week when I had actually not fasted at all.

I heared Hazrat Maulana Saad sahab db at Markaz Nizamuddin saying that this ayat was sent while some people had pledged to set out in the path of Allah if the wahi comes down clearly to bid them so.. and when the wahi did come they held themselves back.. so this ayah was a rebuke to those people who had pledged earlier and heldback when the wahi arrived..

wa assalam..

[Gymngatagaica]

(61) Surat As-Saff سُورَة الصَّف [revealed in Medinah]


61:1 سَبَّحَ لِلَّهِ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرضِ وَهُوَ العَزِيزُ الحَكِيمُ

Whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth glorifies Allah. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

Sabbaĥa Lillahi Ma Fi As-Samawati Wa Ma Fi Al-'Arđi Wa Huwa Al-`Azizu Al-Ĥakimu



61:2 يَاأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا لِمَ تَقُولُونَ مَا لاَ تَفعَلُونَ

O you who believe! Why do you say that which you do not do?

Ya 'Ayyuha Al-Ladhina 'Āamanū Lima Taqūlūna Ma La Taf`alūna


61:3 كَبُرَ مَقْتاً عِنْدَ اللَّهِ أَنتَقُولُوا مَا لاَ تَفعَلُونَ

Most hateful it is with Allah that you say that which you do not do.

Kabura Maqtaan `Inda Allahi 'An Taqūlū Ma La Taf`alūna




summary of Ayat 61:2 and 61:3:[from tafseer ibn katheer with authentic hadeeth]


Chastising Those Who say what They do not do


http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?opt...370&Itemid=117


﴿يأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لِمَ تَقُولُونَ مَا لاَ تَفْعَلُونَ

61:2..(O you who believe! Why do you say that which you do not do) This refutes those who neglect to fulfill their promises. This honorable Ayah supports the view that several scholars of the Salaf held, that it is necessary to fulfill the promise, regardless of whether the promise includes some type of wealth for the person receiving the promise or otherwise. They also argue from the Sunnah, with the Hadith recorded in the Two Sahihs in which Allah's Messenger said,

«آيَةُ الْمُنَافِقِ ثَلَاثٌ: إِذَا وَعَدَ أَخْلَفَ، وَإِذَا حَدَّثَ كَذَبَ، وَإِذَا اؤْتُمِنَ خَان»

(There are three signs for a hypocrite: when he promises, he breaks his promise; when speaks, he lies; and when he is entrusted, he betrays.) And in another Hadith in the Sahih,

«أَرْبَعٌ مَنْ كُنَّ فِيهِ كَانَ مُنَافِقًا خَالِصًا،وَمَنْ كَانَتْ فِيهِ وَاحِدَةٌ مِنْهُنَّ كَانَتْ فِيهِ خَصْلَةٌ مِنْ نِفَاقٍ حَتْى يَدَعَهَا»

(There are four characteristics which if one has all of them, he is the pure hypocrite, and if anyone has any of them, he has a characteristic of hypocrisy, until he abandons it.) So he mentioned breaking the promise among these four characteristics. We mentioned the meaning of these two Hadiths in the beginning of the explanation of Sahih Al-Bukhari, and to Allah is the praise and the thanks. Therefore Allah implied this meaning, when He continued His admonishment by saying,



﴿كَبُرَ مَقْتاً عِندَ اللَّهِ أَن تَقُولُواْ مَا لاَ تَفْعَلُونَ ﴾

61:3..(Most hateful it is with Allah that you say that which you do not do.) Imam Ahmad and Abu Dawud recorded that `Abdullah bin `Amir bin Rabi`ah said, "Allah's Messenger came to us while I was a young boy, and I went out to play. My mother said, `O `Abdullah! Come, I want to give you something.' Allah's Messenger said to her,

«وَمَا أَرَدْتِ أَنْ تُعْطِيَهُ؟»
(What did you want to give him) She said, `Dates.' He said,

«أَمَا إِنَّكِ لَوْ لَمْ تَفْعَلِي كُتِبَتْ عَلَيْكِ كَذْبَة»
(If you had not given them to him, it would have been written as a lie in your record.)'' Muqatil bin Hayyan said, "The faithful believers said, `If we only knew the dearest good actions to Allah, we would perform them.' Thus, Allah told them about the dearest actions to Him,saying,..

﴿إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الَّذِينَ يُقَـتِلُونَ فِى سَبِيلِهِ صَفّاً﴾ ....summary for the rest of the surah contd. here....

.....http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?opt...=view&id=1370&




'SADAQALLAHUL 'AZIM'

[Pippoles]

quite easy to point out someone else's speck in their eye