[beenBinybelia]

Salamu alaikum wr wb.

Kafir kafir bhai bhai, bashar aur yahoodi bhai bhai.

http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...har-assad.html

[phernikas]

I hope assad goes inshAllah but what realistic startegies are tehre to remove him without western help? Dont say "trust in Allah". The only possibility I see is this armed group of deserter soldiers but a lot of people seem to dislike them so how are we supposed to remove assad? i DONT SEE A CLEAR WAY FOR VICTORY AND WOULD LIKE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE

[bely832new]

I hope assad goes inshAllah but what realistic startegies are tehre to remove him without western help? Dont say "trust in Allah". The only possibility I see is this armed group of deserter soldiers but a lot of people seem to dislike them so how are we supposed to remove assad? i DONT SEE A CLEAR WAY FOR VICTORY AND WOULD LIKE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE

Please, don't even mention NATO or the west helping - industrial scale murder and people dying from aerial bombardment and phosporous poisoning come to mind. Syrians should reject their help (interference). The US/West only EVER gets involved when its interests are concerned - neither the Syrian people or Islam concern it - if it gets involved, it will be in concert with NATO countries or Israel. I find it amazing that after a decade of destruction by the US/West almost exclusively against Muslims, which continues till this day, some could even entertain this idea. The US is a country that kills muslims for fun, we should have nothing to do with these modern day Nazi's. What you'll end-up with is people sacrifing themselves for a false cause - democracy, freedom, human rights, free-markets (actually any slogan that makes you seem like 'opposition'), Islam will be used to get to power and then put aside once the new leaders are firmly in place. Just look at what is happening in Egypt, Tunisia and the people who have been installed into power in Libya after consultation with NATO political chiefs. The military is the true power in these countries - they have been instrumental in keeping the same 'system' in place even though the figure-head dictator maybe gone - they are the west's 'eyes and ears' on the ground in these countries. Important national industries like Tourism (associated with Alcohol, immodesty etc) will remain even though Islamists are (supposedly) in power - they will not be allowed to have a say in the matter whatsoever. Its the reality of the situation and realising that things will take time to change.

Having said that, it is not always the case that everything has to be solved via war and bloodshed. It takes time to change. I don't seem to remember Nabi (saw) taking to violence when something didn't go his way - and he was treated appallingly by hios own Tribe. Rather, he would endure, pray to Allah and work to bring about change. The level of support for the Brothers in Syria will depend on actual Syrians on the ground and the brothers in surrounding countries. They are in our prayers. Of course, if they have majority support throughout Syria, Assad regime will eventually have to go. I would pray for a peaceful outcome, with a quick end to the continuing bloodshed as soon as possible.



Allahu A'lam

[Wxrxnhar]

Why do muslims pray for NATO to come in every time there is a bit of a fight in an Arab country? Come on guys, let the Syrians sort it out;

[SawbasyWrab]

May Allah destroy Assad and everyone who supports Assad and every hypocrite Moushrik who worships Assad and Assad's entire 'Alawi religion, May Allah engulf him in fire in this life and the after life, May his flesh rot and his bones disintegrate into nothingness, May his legacy be buried in mud and may the Ba'athi ideology disappear from the face of the earth.

[NikitahDE]

Dont say "trust in Allah". The only possibility I see is this armed group of deserter soldiers but a lot of people seem to dislike them so how are we supposed to remove assad? i DONT SEE A CLEAR WAY FOR VICTORY AND WOULD LIKE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE

Brother Dawud,

usually i agree with ur posts, and with all due respect, I fail to see why we should NOT say: "trust in Allah".

Tell me, dear brother, 10 years ago, when the filthy kuffaar intruded into our brothers' towns in Afghanistan, was there any match at all between the 2 sides' military preparedness? Not even the greatest optimist would have given the Taliban a second chance. What happened next?

You and I are witness to it. (How many time do we need history to repeat before we learn a lesson?).

How did it happen? Isn't there sufficient proof in this 10-year bloodbath, that truly victory comes ONLY by the Help and Will of Allah ta'aala? If not, it simply defies logic that invaders from 48 "countries" have crumbled like dust into non-existence, humiliated and disgraced, having been slain with a ferocious slaughter.

P.S. pls don't get me wrong, i am not at all advocating laziness and lack of military preparations. But when the time comes, whatever preparations have been done, then say "Bismillah" and march forth...

Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.

(Surah At-Tawbah: Ayat 41)

[deandrecooke]

imposible bashar is allies with iran and hates isreal he is a shia kafr

[beenBinybelia]

May Allah destroy Assad and everyone who supports Assad and every hypocrite Moushrik who worships Assad and Assad's entire 'Alawi religion, May Allah engulf him in fire in this life and the after life, May his flesh rot and his bones disintegrate into nothingness, May his legacy be buried in mud and may the Ba'athi ideology disappear from the face of the earth.

Aameen.

[SawbasyWrab]

CIA Agent Exposes How Al-Qaeda (The one you usually hear about on TV) Doesn't Exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GARE6NcxdcY

^ That's not the point though, he gets asked about the Syrian revolution and Interestingly he says "If Assad goes Israeli security goes way down" but he was cut-off by the dumb woman. Then he says concerning Syria "Israelis said that democracy (in Syria) may not be very good for our security"

al-Assad = Zionist.

[PyncGyncliacy]

May Allah destroy Assad and everyone who supports Assad and every hypocrite Moushrik who worships Assad and Assad's entire 'Alawi religion, May Allah engulf him in fire in this life and the after life, May his flesh rot and his bones disintegrate into nothingness, May his legacy be buried in mud and may the Ba'athi ideology disappear from the face of the earth.

Ameen.

[TodeImmabbedo]

Why do muslims pray for NATO to come in every time there is a bit of a fight in an Arab country? Come on guys, let the Syrians sort it out;

imposible bashar is allies with iran and hates isreal he is a shia kafr

Very naive assumptions, brothers. Withholding the NATO kufar, the situation in Syria is Muslims being butchered for their religion by pagan thugs. It is a war on Islam, not some kind of internal squabble like Libya.

Secondly, the biggest lie is that Shi'a and Jews hate each other. False. They are brothers in arms and always have been. Only naive Muslims have been fooled otherwise.

[bely832new]

Very naive assumptions, brothers. Withholding the NATO kufar, the situation in Syria is Muslims being butchered for their religion by pagan thugs. It is a war on Islam, not some kind of internal squabble like Libya.

Secondly, the biggest lie is that Shi'a and Jews hate each other. False. They are brothers in arms and always have been. Only naive Muslims have been fooled otherwise.

Please explain how NATO intervention is going to improve the situation for Muslims in Syria. Why do you think allowing Kuffar in will make Muslims safer? Bashar Assad, whatever he is, IS a Syrian - an internal solution with support from the surrounding countries needs to be sought. In Libya, NATO managed to kill people on all sides of the conflict (don't expect them to give a damn about what kind of muslim you are) and now they have their chosen 'favourites' to run the country whilst the others who shed their blood in the name of Islam and against Tyranny have been sidelined. The elections in Libya have been suspended indefinately. That will give western interests the time to mould the forward political landscape in Libya exactly as they want it - liberal democracy, free-markets etc. In the end, most candidates who will stand for election, will only do so with their blessing.

Israel has no 'brothers in arms', it has no friends - just influence in the right places. If the US were to go broke and lose their influence, Israel would be quickly moving to build political, military and economic ties with the emerging giants China, India etc. It would be doing all it can to exert pressure on their governments and ensure they either stay onside - like supporting India against Pakistan (offering them military help under the auspices of the war on terror). That process has already begun:

http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/20...ia_riedel.aspx

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...172487,00.html

It is also improving relations with China:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201..._131048780.htm

http://www.israelchinainstitute.com/



Allahu A'lam

[TodeImmabbedo]

You did not read my post. Read it and respond with a proper answer. Thank you.

[bely832new]

You did not read my post. Read it and respond with a proper answer. Thank you.

I read your post, which is why I responded to it (I don't always give people the 'proper' answers they want to here).

The problems in Syria should be sorted by Syrians and the immediate neighboors of Syria. There has been quite some bloodshed already and the emphasis should be on ending that and starting a process where the Assad regime has to give up power. Be it in stages or through a referendum or another agreed formula. No-one needs another war in this region. Stability for the majority is more important that democracy, freedom & human-rights for the few. The idea that further violence will solve anything, that is violence from both sides, is a false and misguided one.

You make claims that Shia are brothers in arms with Israel - is that a general statement or can you substantiate that? Rather generalise about a whole community of people, which is very easy to do (even with Sunni's), why not make a good case for your claim they are 'brothers in arms' and refer some evidence.

I think you'll find Jews per se are not the problem, it is ideology of Zionism which is. Most muslim countries do not recognise Israel for that reason, Sunni and Shia. Unfortunately, it just happens to be Sunni dictators who have politcial ties with Israel (Qatar, Mauritania, Central Asian Stans, Egypt & Jordan). Many other nations understand and support the Palestinian position against political Zionism.



Allahu A'lam

[HakTaisanip]

May Allah destroy Assad and everyone who supports Assad and every hypocrite Moushrik who worships Assad and Assad's entire 'Alawi religion, May Allah engulf him in fire in this life and the after life, May his flesh rot and his bones disintegrate into nothingness, May his legacy be buried in mud and may the Ba'athi ideology disappear from the face of the earth.

It is better to ask that Allah guides him to the straight path

[bonyrek]

It is better to ask that Allah guides him to the straight path

But it is also permissible to ask for his destruction... when a person feels strong emotions as my brother from Tripoly does, it is hard to ask for anything else

[beenBinybelia]

But it is also permissible to ask for his destruction... when a person feels strong emotions as my brother from Tripoly does, it is hard to ask for anything else

Agreed. Let us ask for both. May Allah guide him and if he is unworthy of guidance, then may Allah destroy him.

[mortgrhhh]

Agreed. Let us ask for both. May Allah guide him and if he is unworthy of guidance, then may Allah destroy him.

Ameen

[HakTaisanip]

I didnt ask you about what is permissible and what is not.


Will you make that same duaa for yourself? Will you say about yourself: "May Allah guide me, and if I am unworthy of guidance, then may Allah destroy me"?

[bonyrek]

I didnt ask you about what is permissible and what is not.


Will you make that same duaa for yourself? Will you say about yourself: "May Allah guide me, and if I am unworthy of guidance, then may Allah destroy me"?

But if it's permissible, I do not see why you have objections to it. No, I will not ask for my destruction because I do not wish to be destroyed. I will ask for his destruction if I so wish because it is not correct to draw an analogy between a Muslim (me) and a kaafir (Assad). And knowing the amount of grief he has given to the Ummah, the women who have been raped because of him, the children who have been killed because of him, the children orphaned because of him, the people mutilated because of him, our mothers and brothers and sisters forced to beg on the streets because of him, seeing bloodied bodies strewn across the streets because of him, the Syrians traumatised because of him, bombs falling from the sky because of him, tears amounting to oceans streaming from our people because of him... if someone overcome by grief because of the all those who have suffered because of Assad utters a curse upon him, it is perfectly fine in my eyes and since it is permissible in Islam, I will never object to it People curse him because of the love they have for their own brothers and sisters who suffer at his hand- they hate him for the love of Allah and to me, that is admirable