[teentodiefows]

One of the important principles of the naqshbandi silsila is solitude in the crowd. I thought I'd make a thread about it so people can discuss the concept.

[teentodiefows]

"Ba Hama and Behama" i.e "to be with ALL and still detached".

[teentodiefows]

The best khalwa (isolation) is to hide in the deepest recesses of your Qalb (heart),all alone with your Rabb (Lord),while all the time surrounded by people.What is said about Naqshbandis is true for all tareeqa's.
"Naqshbandi a jab qafila salar ast
Ke posheeda ba haram me rawan qafila ra"
'Naqshbandi's are strange guides of wayfarers,they make them reach the haram (Holy Sanctuary) on hidden routes'

[teentodiefows]

"Tou ze ghuncha kam na dameedae dare dil Kushan ba chaman dara"
Meaning "You are not less than a Garden ( khalwa in this case),just open the doors of your heart and go inside".

[teentodiefows]

Khwaja Ali Ramtini ra once said:
"Az daroon shud Ashna wa az biroon began Sho
Ae chynee zebu rawish kam me baud andar jehan"
"Keeping a Secret contact with the beloved inside your soul while remaining a stranger public ally,what a beautiful way this is,but how rare!"

[xesvideo]

Excellent thread; please keep posting, although I'm too ignorant to have anything to contribute myself.

[dayclaccikere]

Shaykh Maseehullah Khan Saheb r.a. said:

“Solitude is achieved by the heart, not from sitting alone.
The body could be with everybody, whilst the heart is with The One”

[aparneioninny]

Shaykh Maseehullah Khan Saheb r.a. said:

“Solitude is achieved by the heart, not from sitting alone.
The body could be with everybody, whilst the heart is with The One”

Thats really beautiful

[Kennypor]

The best khalwa (isolation) is to hide in the deepest recesses of your Qalb (heart),all alone with your Rabb (Lord),while all the time surrounded by people.

Its a good thread. Can you elaborate a bit on this .

[SpyRemo]

If I remember correctly there is a verse about such a thing in Junaid Jamshed's nasheed "Mujai Zindagi Main Ya Rub".

[CtEkM8Vq]

Duniya ke mashghalon mein bhi woh BaKhuda rehey
Woh sab ke saath reh kar bhi sab se judaa rahey

[aparneioninny]

Duniya ke mashghalon mein bhi woh BaKhuda rehey
Woh sab ke saath reh kar bhi sab se judaa rahey

Translation plz? thank you

[pepBarihepe]

If I remember correctly there is a verse about such a thing in Junaid Jamshed's nasheed "Mujai Zindagi Main Ya Rub".

"Bharey anjuman mein rehkar na hoon aashna kisi se,
Mujhe doston ki jhurmuth mein wo bekali ataakar"


Every other verse of this poem is pure beauty and love. It is far more filled with pain and heart touching effect if listened in Hazat Mufti Taqi Usmani Sab db's own voice. The audio is somewhere in www.bhatkallys.com

poor urdu for translation..if Maripat sir can attempt it would be great...

[pepBarihepe]

Translation plz? thank you

Inspite of being busy in worldly affairs, they were engaged with Allah swt
Inspite of staying with everyone, they were in isolation from everyone...

sorry sis...that was the best I could attempt

[SpyRemo]

"Bharey anjuman mein rehkar na hoon aashna kisi se,
Mujhe doston ki jhurmuth mein wo bekali ataakar"


Every other verse of this poem is pure beauty and love. It is far more filled with pain and heart touching effect if listened in Hazat Mufti Taqi Usmani Sab db's own voice. The audio is somewhere in www.bhatkallys.com

poor urdu for translation..if Maripat sir can attempt it would be great...

Jazakallah Khair Akhi.
I'll try to do a translation for you.

In midst of great company may I not be attached with anyone ...
In my circle of friends give me that restlessness ...

[SpyRemo]

Every other verse of this poem is pure beauty and love. It is far more filled with pain and heart touching effect if listened in Hazat Mufti Taqi Usmani Sab db's own voice. The audio is somewhere in www.bhatkallys.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhNHKVffY2Q
I found it on youtube.
Mashallah beautiful poem.

[n2Oddw8P]

for remembering and for doing the needful.

[teentodiefows]

brother Amr this concept cannot be mentioned. It is learnt from mashaikh and one needs to do some mujahidah before one can achieve this. This is actually the maqam of ihsaan which is the pinnacle of iklaas....words cannot describe it. May ALLAH give it to us and increase the blessings in it ameen.

[n2Oddw8P]

Ahem ... let me give this a try.
Khilwat is solitude.
Solitude is the state where you are not sharing your experience with others.
Now let us consider the state of a young man who has got a job some time back and the parents are going to take him to see a girl - his prospective bride.
At the moment the gentleman is in his office but the outing is scheduled for the evening.
In the office the guy is attending meetings and devising solutions and interacting with all the other office people but in his heart he is just occupied with the prospects of the evening - how will it go and what will happen.
So the person is in the public but the heart is dedicated some where else.
I suppose it is not impossible to imagine.
Attaining the same state in relation to Allah(SWT) might take some efforts and in all probability will require a Shaikh but it is not impossible to achieve.
And it is desirable because Allah(SWT) says that if you forget me even for a moment I'll make your life miserable.
And if it is still too intricate for us then let us just remember that our mandate is rather simple - to avoid sins and indulge in acts of obedience.
Wassalam

[Kennypor]

brother Amr this concept cannot be mentioned. It is learnt from mashaikh and one needs to do some mujahidah before one can achieve this. This is actually the maqam of ihsaan which is the pinnacle of iklaas....words cannot describe it. May ALLAH give it to us and increase the blessings in it ameen.

Okie. I understand. May Allah Ta'ala make us reach that maqam of ihsaan. Ameen.