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Assalamu alaykum

Also why there is a madrasah in Makkah and madeenah to teach quranic sciences. They are from Makkah and madeenah, their language is arabic, then why spend time in madrasah for 8 years. What do they teach in this islamic university. All hadeeth books are available in arabic, the quran is in arabic.

Why did Syeduna Umar RA advised sahabah to consult Abdullah ibn Abbas RA and Abdullah ibn Masood RA to learn about quran.

I heartly agree that we should recite quran in arabic in salah, and recite quran with translation at normal times.

I just want proof to make that person understand why it is compulsory to recite quran in arabic in salah.

That person say's he is concentrating more in prayer's when he recite quran in his own language, he always recite quran in his own language when he prays alone, even in Ramadan taravee prayers also he completes quran alone in his own language because the mosque is far away from his home.

And so sad, all his prayers are invalid and need to be repeated..

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And so sad, all his prayers are invalid and need to be repeated..

Assalamu alaykum

But our brother's friend doesn't believe in a mufti's ruling. He wants clear ayah or an authentic hadeeth for this ruling.

[piramirra]

The translations are works of human beings so they undoubtedly contain many errors. If I were to translate a sentence from another language to English and another person were to do the same, there's a very high chance that we'd have similar but different translations. One of us may unintentionally be leading the listener/reader to unexpected conclusions. This is because the Qur'an is a holy book and is scrutinized and placed under a microscope. The same is done with every other religious book but the problem is, a lot of the times, what is under the microscope may not be the word of God - for example, the most popular version of the Bible, the King James Version, contains a lot of errors, most of which are extremely obvious. Despite there being more "accurate" translations of the Greek New Testament, the KJV is still the most famous and thus, the most scrutinized. Christians in their Bible study groups who are studying the KJV derive many of their ideas from specific verses that may have been mistranslated and reach conclusions that were never meant to be reached.

This is why the Qur'an was preserved in the language it was revealed. Even the Arabic of the Qur'an is not equivalent to modern Arabic and no effort has been made to make it so because it is the literal word of Allah .

1. Translation can vary from person to person.
2. As we all are human's the error's can happen.
3. To preserve the words of holy book we are not suppose to recite the translation of the quran in any other language in salah.

Any thing more brother?

[Kennypor]

1. Translation can vary from person to person.
2. As we all are human's the error's can happen.
3. To preserve the words of holy book we are not suppose to recite the translation of the quran in any other language in salah.

Any thing more brother?

bro. You can show him the following hadith too.

Ibn Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “Whoever recites a letter from the Book of Allah, he will be credited with a good deed, and a good deed gets a ten-fold reward. I do not say that Alif-Lam-Mim is one letter, but Alif is a letter, Lam is a letter and Mim is a letter.”
[At-Tirmidhi].

Here the hadith is clear that the reward is for the letters in Arabic.


Edit: I would also like to add. During the time of Rasoolullah there were Sahaba who were non-Arabs. But is there any proof that our Rasool allowed Salah in a foreign language? No.
Also the people who understood Islam best are the Sahabah. During their times Islam had spread to non-arab speaking areas like persia. But is there a single example of any sahaba or the Salaf As Saliheen allowing Salah in a language other than arabic.? No.

I hope you will be able to convince your friend InshaAllah. Make sure you make dua before you talk to him. May Allah save us from such errors and guide us in the right path. Ameen.