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Description: The Purpose of making this video is 100% positive and does not mean any negative criticism like the one that is done on the Jamaat by people like Tauseef ur Rehman but the purpose is that we recognise the efforts of Jamaat al Tableegh and want that they reconcile their mistakes,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZtlAIPR28

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTXLOSFvM8

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ff948ZcMis

[Hammaduersnes]

I don't want to talk about the dead but I would just like to say that Dr. Israr does not really know what he is talking about, since he is exaggerating a lot and nitpicking. Yes, there are issues with Jamaat but the points he raises are not really relevant.

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the points he raises are not really relevant.

This sort of thinking is part of the problem that was being addressed.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1xfYSM3Fk

[Hammaduersnes]

This sort of thinking is part of the problem that was being addressed.

Not really since the Tableeghi Jamaat has a specific purpose, which is to get Muslims to act like Muslims. That is all. People who go in Jamaat themselves improve themselves immensely. They gain more respect for the deen and الحمد لله bring more and more aspects of Islam into their lives. It is a limited scope but it is one of the most important aspects of deen. The purpose of the Jamaat is to revive Islam within our lives. The purpose of the Jamaat is not to bring any new information. Muslims know that they have to pray, they have to fast, etc. The Jamaat merely reminds itself and other Muslims.

You do not join TJ if you want to be an 'aalim, although you may learn somethings. You do not join TJ if you want to bring about a khilafah, although it may inculcate the feeling. The Jamaat is meant to light the spark.

[Ettiominiw]

I don't want to talk about the dead but I would just like to say that Dr. Israr does not really know what he is talking about, since he is exaggerating a lot and nitpicking. Yes, there are issues with Jamaat but the points he raises are not really relevant.

brother you know nothing about Doctor Israr Ahmad , Doctor Israr Ahmad only said those things about which he had knowledge , he was not like some of today "s scholars who like to poke their nose in every matter whether it is related to them or not , kindly watch more lectures of Doctor Israr Ahmad to understand him ok , whatever he said about tableeghi jamaat is true whether you like it or not is another issue , and ALLAH SWT knows best how Doctor Israr Ahmad spend his whole life , so you can say whatever you want to say about Doctor Israr Ahmad it doesnt make any difference

[Aztegjpl]

brother you know nothing about Doctor Israr Ahmad , Doctor Israr Ahmad only said those things about which he had knowledge , he was not like some of today "s scholars who like to poke their nose in every matter whether it is related to them or not , kindly watch more lectures of Doctor Israr Ahmad to understand him ok , whatever he said about tableeghi jamaat is true whether you like it or not is another issue , and ALLAH SWT knows best how Doctor Israr Ahmad spend his whole life , so you can say whatever you want to say about Doctor Israr Ahmad it doesnt make any difference

Asslaamoalaykum-w-w
The problem with people is that they are judging tableegh jamaat when its still in its infancy!
Everyone s thinking i am better!!

[Ettiominiw]

Asslaamoalaykum-w-w
The problem with people is that they are judging tableegh jamaat when its still in its infancy!
Everyone s thinking i am better!!

no brother , Doctor Israr Ahmad never said that his Tanzeem E Islami is the best and people should join it ,

[kictainiSot]

the problem is that shaykh dr. israr ahmad (rah) was not the only person on the haqq and thus he's not the only expert with an opinion, so ppl shud stop acting like disagreeing with him is blasphemous.

there different movements which have different characteristics which serve to establish taqwa, khilafa on this world none of these movements are wrong and they all saintly ppl associated with them.

on a side not one might ask sure dr israr ideas sound great on paper...but in his years of struggling for the sake of khilafat did he ever establish it? NO. this is in no way belittles the fact that his talks have greatly benefitted muslimsd across the globe, and we have no doubt over the rewards that must await him. may allah make his grave a garden of jannat.

on the otherhand TJ has met its objectives of transforming ppls lives and attaching them to the masajids. sure they're goals weren't lofty but they indeed have succeeded on a massive scale. so remember that there was great wisdom and forsight in how TJ executed their objectives.

which movement has been succesful. you be the judge.

note the above was not meant to in any way be disrespectful to the late wali shaykh dr israr ahmad (rah) who's selfless efforts for the deen have greatly benefitted my father. i visited his academy in lahore when last i was there, and benefitted much from the literature i took from their bookstore.

the differences between these two movements are only in their ijtehad and how they decide to tackle the problems plaguing our society. remember that allah grants one reward just for making the effort of ijtehad and two rewards if one is correct.

because i fear this thread may turn into a debate between ppl, i just want to point out that differences in the two movements relates to their approaches to solving our problems (and differences of opinion are inevitable among muslims). the differences are nothing like the differences between sufis and sdalafis or brelwis and deobaNDIES and that shaykh dr israr (rah) has always had good relations with ulema of TJ despite his different ijtehad on how to solve spiritual/political problems of the muslims.

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subhannallah why certain fans of tanzeem are so intent on pointing every flaw or percieved flaw in TJ is beyond me.

i have never seen TJers so intent on attacking tanzeem, tho i have seen them attack maududi (rah) on occassion but that is a completely diff matter.

[kictainiSot]

on differences of opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzqBiH0Cutw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzqBiH0Cutw

[Ettiominiw]

the problem is that shaykh dr. israr ahmad (rah) was not the only person on the haqq and thus he's not the only expert with an opinion, so ppl shud stop acting like disagreeing with him is blasphemous.

there different movements which have different characteristics which serve to establish taqwa, khilafa on this world none of these movements are wrong and they all saintly ppl associated with them.

on a side not one might ask sure dr israr ideas sound great on paper...but in his years of struggling for the sake of khilafat did he ever establish it? NO. this is in no way belittles the fact that his talks have greatly benefitted muslimsd across the globe, and we have no doubt over the rewards that must await him. may allah make his grave a garden of jannat.

on the otherhand TJ has met its objectives of transforming ppls lives and attaching them to the masajids. sure they're goals weren't lofty but they indeed have succeeded on a massive scale. so remember that there was great wisdom and forsight in how TJ executed their objectives.

which movement has been succesful. you be the judge.

note the above was not meant to in any way be disrespectful to the late wali shaykh dr israr ahmad (rah) who's selfless efforts for the deen have greatly benefitted my father. i visited his academy in lahore when last i was there, and benefitted much from the literature i took from their bookstore.

the differences between these two movements are only in their ijtehad and how they decide to tackle the problems plaguing our society. remember that allah grants one reward just for making the effort of ijtehad and two rewards if one is correct.

because i fear this thread may turn into a debate between ppl, i just want to point out that differences in the two movements relates to their approaches to solving our problems (and differences of opinion are inevitable among muslims). the differences are nothing like the differences between sufis and sdalafis or brelwis and deobaNDIES and that shaykh dr israr (rah) has always had good relations with ulema of TJ despite his different ijtehad on how to solve spiritual/political problems of the muslims.

well brother the problem in our society has been that people like us who have very little knowledge of Quran and Ahadiths start talking negatively about great scholars like Doctor Israr Ahmad ,Doctor Zakir Naik . and establishing Khilafa is not an easy think , it cannot be done while sitting in an airconditioned room of a hotel in Mumbai or Lahore ,it requires extreme struggle and Doctor Israr Ahmad did that through out his lifetime and the rest ALLAH SWT knows best , so we are no one to talk about great scholars like Doctor Israr Ahmad and Doctor Zakir Naik .

[MightyMasd]

well brother the problem in our society has been that people like us who have very little knowledge of Quran and Ahadiths start talking negatively about great scholars like Doctor Israr Ahmad ,Doctor Zakir Naik . and establishing Khilafa is not an easy think , it cannot be done while sitting in an airconditioned room of a hotel in Mumbai or Lahore ,it requires extreme struggle and Doctor Israr Ahmad did that through out his lifetime and the rest ALLAH SWT knows best , so we are no one to talk about great scholars like Doctor Israr Ahmad and Doctor Zakir Naik .

what r u know about dr.zakir naik,so u says him great scholar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6AflhTjhCI

whats mufti says aout this issue?
http://www.muftisays.com/blog/abu+mo...he-quran!.html

must read:https://islamicbookslibrary.wordpres...sajid-bukhari/

[agiopwer]

scholars like Doctor

[Ettiominiw]

what r u know about dr.zakir naik,so u says him great scholar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6AflhTjhCI

whats mufti says aout this issue?
http://www.muftisays.com/blog/abu+mo...he-quran!.html

must read:https://islamicbookslibrary.wordpres...sajid-bukhari/

you guys do nothing but you guys follow your favourite scholars blindly , i dont blindly follow any scholar , dont believe what your scholars say search yourself about Doctor Zakir Naik , dont blindly follow any scholar , follow Quran and Hadith only ok , there is no sect in Islam

[Ettiominiw]

oh come on abu layl brother , you know nothing but taunting remember a believer never taunts , it is the trait of kuffar to taunt , come on brother stop taunting ,

[MightyMasd]

you guys do nothing but you guys follow your favourite scholars blindly , i dont blindly follow any scholar , dont believe what your scholars say search yourself about Doctor Zakir Naik , dont blindly follow any scholar , follow Quran and Hadith only ok , there is no sect in Islam

so ur doctors know good islam than any other scholar?,while he made this type of big mistake
br,think and think who follow blindly?

[agiopwer]

brother you know nothing about Dr.Israr

you know nothing but taunting

Is it a new trand to tell everyone "you know nothing , you know nothing".