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THE REAL CONCEPT OF MOHR-E-FATIMI




Hazrat Fatima (Rad) got married with Hazrat Ali (Rad), Who was a cousin of Prophet Hazrat Mohammed (Saw). The 'Mohr' of Hazrat Fatima (Rad) called 'Mohr-E-Fatimi' and it was fixed of 400 'Mithqaal' (Mukammal Islam, Page No.184, Ch-41, written by Maulana Ashiq Elahi Mirathi).
'Mithqaal' is a gold coin which is a currency of ancient Arab during the time of Prophet Hazrat Mohammed (Saw), and the weight of a 'Mithqaal' is 4.5 'Masha' (Firojul Lugat, Page No.387). One 'Masha' is equal to 8 'Rati' (Firojul Lugat, Page No.371) and one 'Mithqaal' is equal to 36 'Rati'. Now, total quantity of 400 'Mithqaal' is 400 X 36 =14,400 'Rati'. If we convert this quantity to 'Tola' then it will be 150 'Tola' ('Rati' and 'Tola' are the Indian units of weighing the gold and silver). One 'Tola' is equal to 11.664 gms and 150 'Tola' is equal to 1749.6 gms.
After all, it can says from above discussion that 'Mohr-E-Fatimi' is 400 gold coin (Mithqaal) not silver coin which is equal to 150 'Tola' of gold or 1749.6 gms gold. If the price of one 'Tola' gold is INR 35000 then total amount of 150 'Tola' gold will be INR 52,50,000 (Rupees Fifty two lacs fifty thousands) and this will be the real value of the 'Mohr-E-Fatimi'. The value of 'Mohr-E-Fatimi' is not constant because it depends on the market price of gold.




Kazi Mufti Maulana Ibrahim Akand
(kasimi Hussaini)
Dhing Town, Nagaon, Assam (India).

[Berta]

السلام عليكم
Brother Fakharuddin, are you from Dhing?

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Wa alaikumus salam.‎‏
Yes, brother I'm from Dhing, Nagaon, Assam.

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Wa alaikumus salam.‎‏
Yes, brother I'm from Dhing, Nagaon, Assam.

السلام عليكم

Brother Fakharuddin, where exactly in Dhing- Sonari Gaon, Niz Dhing, Bilotia, Gayan Gaon...? My in-laws are from Dhing Sonari Gaon. I am from Fauzdaripatti, Nagaon Town, near SP Bunglow, Police Reserve.

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Wa alaikum salam,
Actually Bhaisab I'm from Shalkati, a village that is 3 km away from Sonarigaon in the west side.
I wan to discuss about Mohre Fatimi with you. Many of maulana giving their openion that the value of Mohre Fatimi is calculated with price of some quantity of silver which is totally wrong and sinful. What do you think about this mater? If you think that they are wrong then kindly published my thread to every muslim.

[Berta]

Wa alaikum salam,
Actually Bhaisab I'm from Shalkati, a village that is 3 km away from Sonarigaon in the west side.
I wan to discuss about Mohre Fatimi with you. Many of maulana giving their openion that the value of Mohre Fatimi is calculated with price of some quantity of silver which is totally wrong and sinful. What do you think about this mater? If you think that they are wrong then kindly published my thread to every muslim.

السلام عليكم

Brother, can you please elaborate how does calculating Mehr of Lady Fatima (RA) in terms of silver earns sin and alternately calculating in terms of gold earns reward?

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Wa alaikum salam,
Bhaisab, already it has been described that the Mohr of Hazrat Fatima (RA) was 400 gold coin not silver coin so how we can calculate in terms of silver? If we do so than it will hart the honour of the daughter of our prophet and would not be it sinful?

[Berta]

Wa alaikum salam,
Bhaisab, already it has been described that the Mohr of Hazrat Fatima (RA) was 400 gold coin not silver coin so how we can calculate in terms of silver? If we do so than it will hart the honour of the daughter of our prophet and would not be it sinful?

السلام عليكم

Brother Fakharuddin, you may perhaps discuss this issue with Hazrat Mufti Kasmi Sahab (DB) and let us know what he has to say. In my next visit to India, I shall also try to meet Hazrat Mufti Khairul Islam (DB) or Hazrat Mufti Kasmi Sahab (DB) if time permits.

[HoniSoniproca]

.... that's about.... 100,000 US dollars??? Did some extra zeros get added in by mistake? I'm going to faint...

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Wa alaikum salam,
Brother Aseatic, calculate the market price of 1750gms of gold in your own currency.

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Wa alaikum salam,
Brother Aseatic, calculate the market price of 1750gms of gold in your own currency.

Bro, that's 1.75 kilos of gold.

http://goldprice.org/gold-price-malaysia.html

Currently, it's RM 168 per gram. Multiply by 1,750.

RM 294,000

My rather well-off cousin was married for RM 20,000. Usually it's in the range of a few thousand to a few tens of thousand.

[Kuncher]

1530.9 g of silver = $1,653.30 Mahr-e-Azwaajun Nabi (salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam)
1750 g of silver = $1,891.03 Mahr-e-Faatimi

According to an authentic narration of Sahih Muslim, Rasulullaah (salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam) gave his
wives five hundred dirhams (approximately 1530.9g of silver) as Mahr. Therefore, if one can afford to do
so, it is Mustahab (preferable) to stipulate this amount as Mahr.


It is also Mustahab to stipulate as Mahr the amount that was given to the daughters of Rasulullaah
(salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam). From amongst the daughters of Rasulullaah (salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam),
the Ahadeeth mention the Mahr that was given to Hadhrat Faatima (R.A). However, these narrations are not
recorded in the Sihaa Sitta (the six most authentic compilations of Hadith). Furthermore, there is a
difference of opinion concerning the exact amount that was paid as Mahr for the hand of Hadhrat Faatima
(A.R).


It has become famous in South Africa that Mahr-e-Faatimi is five hundred dirhams (1530g of silver). Since
we have not found any clear and authentic narration to substantiate this, it is incorrect to regard this
amount as Mahr-e-Faatimi with certainty. However, this figure of 500 dirhams (1530.9g) can certainly be
called Mahr-e-Azwaajun Nabi (salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam), as substantiated by the authentic
narration of Sahih Muslim (quoted above). Thus, one should term the dowry at the time of Nikah as Mahr-e-
Azwaajun Nabi (salallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam). If one wants to stipulate Mahr-e-Faatimi, then it is best and
most preferred to calculate it as four hundred mithqaal (1750g of silver), as stated by Mufti Abdur Raheem
Laajpuri (Daamat Barakaatuh).


http://www.alislam.co.za/cms/publications/leaflet-mahr/

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Assalamu Alaikum,
Brother Omar, already it has been described in my several thread that 'Mohr-e-Fatimi' was fixed for 400 'Mithqaal' (pls see my first thread) and which weight was near about 1750 gms of gold because in the Arabic dictionary the meaning of 'mithqaal' is not written as silver coin. So, it is totally wrong to calculate the 'Mohr-e-Fatimi' in the terms of silver. Because the meaning of Mithqaal is a gold coin with the weight of 4.5 masha that was a currency of ancient Arab.

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It is hard for me to accept that no one expect your maulana saheb has picked up on this till now. How many fuqahaa listed in my article could have gotten the definition of mithqaal wrong?

Calculating in terms of gold would be about $100,000, which is outrageous. No one can afford that.

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Assalamu Alaikum,
Brother Omar, calculating 'Mohr-e-Fatimi' in the terms of gold is correct, because evidence say it true. It is not mater that any one can efford it or not. Because it is not compulsory to fixed only the Mohr e Fatimi. In a marriage any amount can deciede for marriage. If we fixed 'Mohre e Fatimi than it must should be calculate in terms of 1750 gms of gold other wise we will harm to the honour of Haz. Fatima (R.A).