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Old 02-12-2012, 05:48 AM   #21
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Forget valentines day, i dont celebrate it because it's haram.

Now i'm talking about my wedding anniversary which doesn't coincide with any kuffar celebration, alhumdullillah. So on that day and not on valentines day we shall go out.

That will help me avoid any bida.

Also if I give her one present a day, that's 36...........alot of presents, I don't want to imitate those people who give a lot of presents.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:01 AM   #22
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Is it ok for a husband and wife to celebrate their wedding anniversary? My friend told me that celebrating birthdays and anniversaries is haram? I think celebrating birthdays is wrong but why anniversaries?? Can the husband and wife just go out to eat on their anniversary day?
Celebrating birthdays and wedding anniversaries have no basis in Islam. they are the customs of the Kuffaar. Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] said, ?That person who imitates a nation is from among them.? The issue is not only about the husband and wife going out to eat on the anniversary, it is also about following the method and ways of the kuffaar which is prohibited.
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...6f51db302634d0
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:00 PM   #23
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Also..read from here..for more clarification of celebrating wedding anniversries..



http://*************/en/ref/46665


http://*************/en/ref/145427



Ruling on celebrating Valentine’s Day

http://*************/en/ref/73007



Celebrating Valentine’s Day [very detail article]

http://islamqa. com/en/ref/books/83
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #24
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...741#post724741
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:19 PM   #25
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Asalaamu Alaikum,

Yes.

No its not..
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:44 PM   #26
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Which religion is "celebrating weddings anniversaries" a part of, 'cos I can't find it. It's a cultural thing and obviously it's not part of Arab culture but other cultures should be allowed to carry out theirs.

To be a Muslim do you have to adopt arab culture also?
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:09 PM   #27
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Read the fatwa of mufti ebrahim desai...i don't think he is Arab..
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:41 PM   #28
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I need a scholar who's not deobandi or Wahabi please, Jazakallah

As far as I know Valentines or anniversaries are not part of any religion. I don't do valentines cos of the commercelisation and my wife doesn't mind 'cos her birthday is quite close to this time of year so she gets all her pressies then.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:05 PM   #29
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Reminder...valentines day is not an islamic event..
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:40 AM   #30
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Why don't the ulama confront Muslim businessmen and chambers of commerce that sell things related to haram activities, such as Valentines Day or Christmas celebrations?

Why don't the ulama take a stand against the billion dollar industries which are shaping Muslim societies with their constant marketing of haram activity, including shirk?

Why aren't they risking their livelihood to lead the believers in the worship of Allah alone?




Who doesn't love his/her spouse and wants to show that love in various acceptable ways, eventually becoming persuaded by constant barrage of marketing to buy this or that wedding gown ($10K for a wedding ceremony being standard for middle class- why not for a gown you wear only once?)

or diamond ring ($10K ring- why not?- just go into debt for 6 months- what orphans do you know about anyways?)

and of course buying roses and chocolates on Valentines Day (St Valentino- anonymous catholic saint anointed by the Catholic church of shirk!!!)?


Why not follow the Roman Catholic church and Pope Gelasius I who first identified Valentines Day to venerate a little known martyred priest/bishop/saint?

Why not follow 14th century CE Chaucer England which infused lustfulness and liberal 'love' with Valentines Day?

Why shouldn't we Muslims allow Muslim businesses to propagate kufr and shirk among us?

BTW, Italy and Rome has been prophecized to be liberated for Islam sometime in the future, insha Allah. What are we doing following dead popes and English poets when we should be propagating Islam to these people who see clearly that the Catholic church is corrupt beyond imagination?
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:50 AM   #31
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brother Usama2 it is the job of the ulema as well as the laymen. Alhamdulillah many of our deobandi ulema tackled this issue from the mimbars. It is a serious epidemic amongst the muslim masses. Many people know its haram but still insist on celebrating it. It is a weakness in imaan
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:14 PM   #32
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This day, 14 February is also the birthday of Emperor Babur.

Uzbekistan has "cancelled" Valentine's Day and wants to commemorate Babur, who they consider to be Uzbek!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16921101

"Instead of Valentine's Day, the authorities are trying instead to promote the study and appreciation of a local hero, the Moghul emperor Babur, whose birthday falls on 14 February.

Babur, a descendant of Genghis Khan and founder of a culturally rich and tolerant empire across South and Central Asia, will be commemorated in readings and poetic festivals.

An official from the education ministry's Department for Enlightenment and Promoting Values said it had issued an internal decree "not to celebrate holidays that are alien to our culture and instead promote Babur's birthday". "



I had no idea the Uzbeks had the same cultural hero you guys have
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #33
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Babur is not our hero. Amongst the heros if any from the Moghuls would be Aurengzeb rh....not babur
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #34
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Well, even Babur is better than Valentine...?
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:04 PM   #35
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Brother London786,

I struggle to contain my urges to enjoin Marouf and forbid Munkar with my hands, and my words, sadly.
Subhanna Allah, I am warned constantly that I could be deported solely for 'speaking out' against the munkar here.

In America, the munkar is expected from kufar.
In Arabia, it is utterly unacceptable as this is Muslim country and the land of Islam.

I regularly hear of stories of believers who stand up here, only to be cut down, imprisoned, deported, etc. regardless of their passports, citizenship, etc.


As for the issue of ulama standing up:

As believers, we have undying belief in and love for the Anbiyaa :as: who provided the most excellent example for human life in all matters.
Perhaps it is me, but I recall that prophet Yahya :as: stood up for the Haqq and Deen of Allah against the treacherous nifaq forces led by Jewish priests and the Roman elite, eventually leading them to kill and behead him, or so Judeo Christian history indicated.

As the crises in the Muslim world , including Syria, has shown, ulama are taking sides with kufr regimes almost exactly as the Jewish priests did with the Roman empire.

And while we should love ulama as those who uphold the Sunnah, we believers should beware and remember where our belief, loyalty, and devotion lies: with Allah and His Messenger and with the Anbiyaa before any humans.
Jewish priests, rabbis and learned men were some of the worst enemies of the prophets of Allah . They not only openly betrayed them, they conspired rebellions against prophets, murdered them, openly defied and publicly challenged them, and so on. All of these instances of the most learned men of various schools and orders are being reflected by various Muslim ulama today.


I'm afraid we believers have to be on the look out for more such treachery in the future, as we can be expected to experience the same if not worse trials and tribulations than previous generations of believers.

And the Prophet warned us that we will follow the two previous Ummah even if they went down a hole, we too would go down that hole .
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #36
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brother Usama2 you are not alone in this. No believer can be at ease with such circumstances. The very same kuffar who in the UK would not even dare to look in our direction due to their awe and respect for muslims go around in such a proud and arrogant manner in a muslim country? How can we tolerate this when we would not tolerate it in the land of kufr? I blame the muslims first for giving these people an air of self-importance.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:37 AM   #37
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last minute Reminder...valentines day is not an islamic event.. .
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:15 AM   #38
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Why don't the ulama confront Muslim businessmen and chambers of commerce that sell things related to haram activities, such as Valentines Day or Christmas celebrations?

Why don't the ulama take a stand against the billion dollar industries which are shaping Muslim societies with their constant marketing of haram activity, including shirk?

Why aren't they risking their livelihood to lead the believers in the worship of Allah alone?


Why shouldn't we Muslims allow Muslim businesses to propagate kufr and shirk among us?



yes..agreed to what has been said above..but the problem is HOW?


first of all...ummah should have unity.. then ulema of all groups should unite and should make a common shariah board as World Islamic shariah..where all Islamic shariahs rules are made according to Quran and sunnah..but unfortunatley we ourselves are too divided among ourselves so i don't think it can ever be possible to make one such as World Islamic shariah board..
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