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Br. Farouk_NL
Your quote is quiet offensive. The shaikh isn't alive to defend his view and instead of looking for excuses, you think you have found fault by copying and pasting something from someone with a secterian agenda.

Br. Dawud
Please don't pender to Br. Faruk. His stance is similar to that of many lamadhabist, vergig on pathological hate.
Allahulaam

Truth be told as they say in the United States!

Uthaymeen was a Salafi (crypto-Wahhabi) who attacked the Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah (Ashari' and Maturidi scholars and imams)

See:

''Imaam Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-’Uthaymeen said:

“So - for example - the Ash’arees and the Maatureedees are not considered from Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah in this particular matter (i.e. concerning the Names and Attributes of Allaah). Rather, they oppose what the Prophet (saw) and his Companions were upon with regards to accepting the Attributes of Allaah - the Most Perfect - upon their haqeeqah (real meaning).

http://al-mustaqeem.tripod.com/id101.html (Warning: Wahhabi website)

[Xzmwskxn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgKdU...feature=relmfu

[EzekelEnzino]

Ok, I am going to take Br. Nomadic's advice and ignore Farouk's comments.

InshaAllah I will share some gems from the Shaykh's life. First post:

“...he slept very little at night during the times of major crises within the Ummah...”

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated by Shaykh Badr ibn Naadir al-Mashaaree:

“One of his (Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen's) students informed me that he slept very little at night during the times of major crises within the Ummah, especially during the days of the Gulf War and the tragedy of our brothers (and sisters) in Bosnia and Chechnya; Whereby he would stand the night (in prayer) beseeching His Lord for their victory (against their enemies) and firmness (upon Islaam) and to repel the plans of the enemies of the religion against them; He also prayed for the Muslims (in general) and encouraged them to stand by (support) them (in their hardship against their enemies).”

ad-Durr ath-Thameen fee Tarjamti Faqeehil-Ummah al-'Allaamah ibn 'Uthaymeen - Page 300

Source: fatwa-online dot com

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Second Post:

The Shaykh was the peak of simplicity and humility...

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated:

"And he (rahima-hullaah) was the peak of simplicity and humility; He did not like sleeping on a bed, nor a comfortable mattress, rather he slept on the floor or a meagre mattress or straw mat which affected his side."

Ibn 'Uthaymeen, al-Imaam az-Zaahid - Page 163

Source: Fatwa-Online dot com

[EzekelEnzino]

Third Post:

“...one of the students of knowledge reminded the Shaykh”

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated:

“During the Jumu'ah khutbah, the Shaykh mentioned the excellence of reciting Soorah al-Faatihah before sleeping, and encouraged (everyone) to recite it. After the khutbah, one of the students of knowledge reminded the Shaykh, saying:

“O Shaykh, you probably meant the excellence of Aayatul-Kursee”

The Shaykh then realised he had unintentionally made a mistake, so he corrected his mistake immediately before the congregation left, warning them a mistake had been made in the khutbah and that which is correct is reciting Aayatul-Kursee before sleeping.”

al-Jaami’ li-Hayaat al-‘Allaamah Muhammed ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen – Page 43

Source: Fatwa-Online dot com

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jazak Allahu khair brither abu dahda, nice little jems. May we all be instilled with excellent character of a muslim

amazing how he staye dup all night in prayer for teh ummah. How many muslims constantly run their mouths day and night yet have never stayed up one night in prayer for the ummah. actionas speak louder than words

[EzekelEnzino]

Fourth Post:

“...whilst he was still young...”

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated by Shaykh 'Aasim ibn 'Abdil-Mun'im al-Maree:

“And from the special characteristics for which he was well-known was his steadfastness in (seeking) knowledge. Some of the relatives of Shaykh 'Abdullaah ibn Muhammad al-Maani' (rahima-hullaah), who was a judge in 'Unayzah until 1360 AH (1936 AD) mentioned that the Shaykh (Ibn 'Uthaymeen) would arrive early every morning at their home, whilst carrying his papers and books. He would knock on the door, extend greetings and seek permission to ascend to the library. There he would remain until just before (the time of) Zhuhr, whereby he would descend, extend greetings and depart. This was whilst he was still young and had not yet reached the age of puberty.”

ad-Durr ath-Thameen fee Tarjamti Faqeehil-Ummah al-'Allaamah ibn 'Uthaymeen - Page 24

Source: Fatwa-Online dot com

[hrotedk]

Saqfu bhai,


I leave you with the words of Hadhrat Gangohi (RA) -
"From the beginning of times until now, the amount of harm the Sufis have done to the religion, no other sect has been able to do so. They have harmed the religion in prophetic tradition, theology, action and ideology. The Prophet’s spiritual strength was such that the biggest of disbelievers were able to reach the level of excellence by merely pronouncing the testimony of faith. An example of this was their query of how to use the toilet and (if they can) be naked in front of Allah. This is what they reached. They were in no need of exercises or struggling as the effects of these were already present in them via the spiritual influence of the Prophet. This spiritual power was present also in the Tabi`een but at a lesser level from that of the Companions. This became less in the following generation. To recompense for the loss in influence-based spirituality, the noble people created exercises and struggles. These practices remained at the level of means that were not considered to be the aim per se, but as time went farther away from the best generations, they started becoming an aim per se and target of and within themselves. These were incremented as time went by, the result of which was that an unlimited amount of ideological, practical and theological innovations entered into the religion. The Muhaqqiq Sufis eradicated these evils, but the result of this was the innovations were only reduced in number, not eradicated completely."

Could you Please give reference ? From where you get this?

Ghair Muqaladeen Spreads lots of fabricated words which early ulmah never say it. So its better to check them confirm it is true then spread to others..

[EzekelEnzino]

Could you Please give reference ? From where you get this?

Ghair Muqaladeen Spreads lots of fabricated words which early ulmah never say it. So its better to check them confirm it is true then spread to others..

Ref:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-amp-English)&

[Jambjanatan]

Truth be told as they say in the United States!

Uthaymeen was a Salafi (crypto-Wahhabi) who attacked the Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah (Ashari' and Maturidi scholars and imams)

See:

''Imaam Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-’Uthaymeen said:

“So - for example - the Ash’arees and the Maatureedees are not considered from Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah in this particular matter (i.e. concerning the Names and Attributes of Allaah). Rather, they oppose what the Prophet (saw) and his Companions were upon with regards to accepting the Attributes of Allaah - the Most Perfect - upon their haqeeqah (real meaning).

http://al-mustaqeem.tripod.com/id101.html (Warning: Wahhabi website)

This has nothing to do with so called wahabism. There was always struggle between AhlalHadith and Mutakalimin.

[hrotedk]

This has nothing to do with so called wahabism. There was always struggle between AhlalHadith and Mutakalimin.

Why it has nothing to do with it?

"Ahle Hadith" were never been called for layman as it is been used today...


Its like you called your self Mufasir, Fuqah, Muhaqiq, Mujtahhid......and non of them you are...

[EzekelEnzino]

Could we please for once steer away from this debate/discussion? There are a zillion other threads to discuss such issues.

Another one:

"Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen!..."

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated:

"A member of the Da’wah and Guidance Centre in Jeddah narrates that during the hajj of 1416A.H, he was in the company of the Shaykh at King ‘Abdul-‘Azeez Airport in Jeddah surrounded by the pilgrims who were arriving for hajj.

Here, the Shaykh undertook that which was obligatory upon him by giving da’wah to the arriving pilgrims. A large group of Russian pilgrims arrived and the Shaykh wanted to offer some words (of da’wah) to them. So he asked if there was a translator amongst them. Then, the (Russian) guide for the group came forward not knowing this was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen.

After completing the translation, the guide asked who the Shaykh was. He was told that it was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. At this, he turned to embrace the Shaykh kissing him (on his forehead) whilst crying. He then grabbed hold of the microphone and addressed all the members of his group that this was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. At this, tears began falling from the eyes of each and every member of the group, whilst the guide was repeatedly loudly calling out on the microphone “Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen!...”

The members of the group then came (forward) and conveyed their greetings to the Shaykh and kissed him (on his forehead).

The guide for the group then turned to the Shaykh and said:

“These are your students. They used to read your books in shelters under the ground during the Communist rule.”

al-Jaami’ li-Hayaat al-‘Allaamah Muhammed ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen – Page 38

Source: Fatwa-online dot com

[hrotedk]

Could we please for once steer away from this debate/discussion? There are a zillion other threads to discuss such issues.

Another one:

"Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen!..."

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated:

"A member of the Da’wah and Guidance Centre in Jeddah narrates that during the hajj of 1416A.H, he was in the company of the Shaykh at King ‘Abdul-‘Azeez Airport in Jeddah surrounded by the pilgrims who were arriving for hajj.

Here, the Shaykh undertook that which was obligatory upon him by giving da’wah to the arriving pilgrims. A large group of Russian pilgrims arrived and the Shaykh wanted to offer some words (of da’wah) to them. So he asked if there was a translator amongst them. Then, the (Russian) guide for the group came forward not knowing this was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen.

After completing the translation, the guide asked who the Shaykh was. He was told that it was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. At this, he turned to embrace the Shaykh kissing him (on his forehead) whilst crying. He then grabbed hold of the microphone and addressed all the members of his group that this was Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. At this, tears began falling from the eyes of each and every member of the group, whilst the guide was repeatedly loudly calling out on the microphone “Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen! Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen!...”

The members of the group then came (forward) and conveyed their greetings to the Shaykh and kissed him (on his forehead).

The guide for the group then turned to the Shaykh and said:

“These are your students. They used to read your books in shelters under the ground during the Communist rule.”

al-Jaami’ li-Hayaat al-‘Allaamah Muhammed ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen – Page 38

Source: Fatwa-online dot com

Why you quoting from Salafies websites "Fatwa-online dot"

Don't you have original book to make quotation either taking things from biased website.

[anxpuna]

Why it has nothing to do with it?

"Ahle Hadith" were never been called for layman as it is been used today...


Its like you called your self Mufasir, Fuqah, Muhaqiq, Mujtahhid......and non of them you are...

Actually you're wrong in two ways:

1) The brother stated:

Originally Posted by Abdullah Efendi
This has nothing to do with so called wahabism. There was always struggle between AhlalHadith and Mutakalimin. In reference to the statement of Shaikh Uthaymeen, which was:

''Imaam Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-’Uthaymeen said:
“So - for example - the Ash’arees and the Maatureedees are not considered from Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah So according to you, anyone who is not a layman can be considered from among Ahle Hadeeth and therefore have a 1000 + year old rivalry with the mutakalimeen, which includes Uthaymeen because he was a Faaqih and other than that from the titles you listed. So in actuality there should be no problem that Uthaymeen said that which many before him said from Ahle-Hadeeth, the Athariyah, and The Hanabilah.

2) You're wrong in that "Ahle hadeeth" only refers to the scholars, and the proof is the statement of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal where he said "If they are not the saved sect, then I don't know who it is." It is not possible that only scholars can be from the saved sect, rather it is anyone who follows the scholars in that which they did correctly, so if Imam Ahmad considered the Ahle Hadeeth to be the correct way, then anyone who follows them in their correctness will also be from among them. Just like you are Hanafi by ascribing yourself to the Hanafi Madhab, right?

[EzekelEnzino]

Why you quoting from Salafies websites "Fatwa-online dot"

Don't you have original book to make quotation either taking things from biased website.

To answer your questions, no - I don't have access to the original books and thus I am posting from the "biased" website as you put it. Brother, sometimes, we need to forget our 'asabiyyah and recognise that there are other pious, god-fearing Ulama outside the Deobandi circle. The world doesn't revolve around Deoband.

According to your logic, no one on this forum should be posting about Deobandi Akaabir from Deobandi websites. It would be biased, right?

NB: I am not Salafi myself. I love the Akaabir of Deoband (may Allah raise their rank in jannah) and I can never say that they are mubtadis etc. which is a term many salafi brothers don't hesitate to use.

[hrotedk]

To answer your questions, no - I don't have access to the original books and thus I am posting from the "biased" website as you put it. Brother, sometimes, we need to forget our 'asabiyyah and recognise that there are other pious, god-fearing Ulama outside the Deobandi circle. The world doesn't revolve around Deoband.

According to your logic, no one on this forum should be posting about Deobandi Akaabir from Deobandi websites. It would be biased, right?


NB: I am not Salafi myself. I love the Akaabir of Deoband (may Allah raise their rank in jannah) and I can never say that they are mubtadis etc. which is a term many salafi brothers don't hesitate to use.

Thanks for accepting you quoting from biased website. Then how you expect something fair and truth from them.

[anxpuna]

Thanks for accepting you quoting from biased website. Then how you expect something fair and truth from them.

Perhaps you should READ what he posted, and tell us whether or not it would actually matter if it wasn't fair and true? And how it would affect you in the least if the story wasn't true?

[EzekelEnzino]

Thanks for accepting you quoting from biased website. Then how you expect something fair and truth from them.

You probably missed the sarcastic apostrophes - "biased". Also, please read the whole post before commenting.

[EzekelEnzino]

Anyway, going back to main purpose of this thread inshaAllah:


“So the Shaykh got out and pushed the car himself...”

Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - Muhammad ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (rahima-hullaah), it has been narrated:

The Shaykh once rode in an old car of a dear friend which happened to break down a lot. So, along the journey, the car broke down and the Shaykh said to the driver:

“Stay where you are, I will get out and push the car”

So the Shaykh got out and pushed the car himself until it started up again.

Such was the extent of the humility of the Shaykh (rahima-hullaah).

al-Jaami’ li-Hayaat al-‘Allaamah Muhammed ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen – Page 42

Source: Fatwa-online dot com

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br nomadic, im goign to have husnal dhann and assume you didnt know this but what you wrote in your post is a profanity in english language.

Anyone posting negative things on in this thread, has no right to complain at salafis for sectarianism as you are no different. And dont give me the childish response "they started it"

Jazak Allahu khair to the articles on the shaikh, i read them all and appreciated them