[MannyLopez]

salam to everyone

I know many brothers here belong to the deobandiyyah and salafiyyah so I wanted to know what the definition of biddah is and whether there is types of biddah or not?

jazak allah

[MannyLopez]

Anyone?

[HonjUopu]

any type of innovation in Islam is called Bidah. Nowadays few people use this word to hurt others.
Before understanding about Bidah, understanding of Islam is important. Or else driving cars, use speakers in Masjid, keeping alarm for Salah will become Bidah.

[MannyLopez]

any type of innovation in Islam is called Bidah. Nowadays few people use this word to hurt others.
Before understanding about Bidah, understanding of Islam is important. Or else driving cars, use speakers in Masjid, keeping alarm for Salah will become Bidah.

THIS definition is too wide can u explain?

[HonjUopu]

any innovation in Islam is a Bidah.
u ll get the answer in your daily life, I mean you can see these things in our society

[MannyLopez]

any innovation in Islam is a Bidah.
u ll get the answer in your daily life, I mean you can see these things in our society

brother I suggest you watch this, it is in english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ6Gf8YKKkE

[HonjUopu]

brother I suggest you watch this, it is in english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ6Gf8YKKkE

Fine brother, I will watch it for sure later. Very lengthy one, what is the context of this?

[MannyLopez]

Fine brother, I will watch it for sure later. Very lengthy one, what is the context of this?

this is a debate between shaykh dimashqiyah (who is a salafi scholar very well known) VS a scholar from the ahlusunnah(who you might know as brelvi) and it is in english. the salafi sheikh in my opinion lost and you can hear what his stance is in the video.

[HonjUopu]

this is a debate between shaykh dimashqiyah (who is a salafi scholar very well known) VS a scholar from the ahlusunnah(who you might know as brelvi) and it is in english. the salafi sheikh in my opinion lost and you can hear what his stance is in the video.

Why I might think Ahlusunnah scholar as Barelvi?

[MannyLopez]

Why I might think Ahlusunnah scholar as Barelvi?

because the people on this forum are deobandi or salafi and they called the ahlusunnah as brelvis because they believe imam hmad ridha khan brelvi r.a was a mujaddid.

[HonjUopu]

because the people on this forum are deobandi or salafi and they called the ahlusunnah as brelvis because they believe imam hmad ridha khan brelvi r.a was a mujaddid.

ok, why you pointed out me?
In the other thread, I didnt mention anything about my point on Meelad. I was against people doing nonsense on the streets shouting, waving flags, playing loud music, dancing.

What do you think about Tableegh jamaat and its operations? Awaiting your reply

[HonjUopu]

r u banned?

[HonjUopu]

Once in Madras one Barelvi and one Salafi scholar argued over some topics. Barelwi scholar won.
One qualified deoband shaykh was telling that both are jokers, one joker was better than the other joker and won the argument. I have seen most of the deoband scholars they wont go an argue with Salafis or Barelwis and waste their time.

I think this is also waste of time for me to watch.

[MannyLopez]

ok, why you pointed out me?
In the other thread, I didnt mention anything about my point on Meelad. I was against people doing nonsense on the streets shouting, waving flags, playing loud music, dancing.

What do you think about Tableegh jamaat and its operations? Awaiting your reply

I think the same as my akabireen I believe that tableeghi jamaat is a deviant sect and one of my teachers has written literature refuting this particular group, i believe it is part of the deobandi sect and I also believe that there method of making practising muslims recite the kalimah with the intention they are becoming muslim again is a real biddah a biddat e dalalah.

I also have a slight hatred towards them for murdering one of the shaykhs of my sheikh whilst in state of dhikr.

im sorry but I am speaking the truth. but this is based on very personal and close up information.

[HonjUopu]

I think the same as my akabireen I believe that tableeghi jamaat is a deviant sect and one of my teachers has written literature refuting this particular group, i believe it is part of the deobandi sect and I also believe that there method of making practising muslims recite the kalimah with the intention they are becoming muslim again is a real biddah a biddat e dalalah.

I also have a slight hatred towards them for murdering one of the shaykhs of my sheikh whilst in state of dhikr.

im sorry but I am speaking the truth. but this is based on very personal and close up information.

People following the steps of Rasool saw are a deviant group in your view. Which teacher of yours have written something?
FYKI, they wont ask you to recite Kalima again and again. You need to bring the firm yaqeen on that Kalima. They spend their money and meet muslims & call them for Salah. They cry in tahajudd for the Ummah and people's hidayah. They went into the forests of Brazil for Dawah.

Yes, they wont arrange big Vans and play music and dance on the street by waving flags.

[HonjUopu]

How to find a Salafi -
Tell him that you tie your hands during Salah below the Navel. He will ask Hadeeth proof. If you tell the hadith proof, then he will shout DHAIF DHAIF DHAIF.

How to find a Barelwi -
Ask him about Tableegh Jamaat. He will tell that they are deviant group and also attack its Deoband root & criticize our Deoband Ulemas.

[MannyLopez]

People following the steps of Rasool saw are a deviant group in your view. Which teacher of yours have written something?
FYKI, they wont ask you to recite Kalima again and again. You need to bring the firm yaqeen on that Kalima. They spend their money and meet muslims & call them for Salah. They cry in tahajudd for the Ummah and people's hidayah. They went into the forests of Brazil for Dawah.

Yes, they wont arrange big Vans and play music and dance on the street by waving flags.

brother from a person who lives in chicago( i dont know what to say about this place) you seem to talk confidently about the tableeghi jamaat.

listen carefully this deviant sect is just one of the 72 to come and as i mentioned before I as well as my teachers have had very close encounters with this sect in the very country it started yes in india.

as for the writer it is non other than hazrat allama arshadul qadri and if you want to talk about this sect please do as i have many question if you can answer.

[HonjUopu]

brother from a person who lives in chicago( i dont know what to say about this place) you seem to talk confidently about the tableeghi jamaat.

listen carefully this deviant sect is just one of the 72 to come and as i mentioned before I as well as my teachers have had very close encounters with this sect in the very country it started yes in india.

as for the writer it is non other than hazrat allama arshadul qadri and if you want to talk about this sect please do as i have many question if you can answer.

Barelwisim and Quadianism are sponsored by Britishers.

[rozneesitcn]

Please do not reply to this person, it is StrengtheningMyDeen, he will argue with you forever and never change his opinions and keep posting the same stupid nonsense from alahazrat or wherever. Report him for multiple accounts and let it go.

[HonjUopu]

Please do not reply to this person, it is StrengtheningMyDeen, he will argue with you forever and never change his opinions and keep posting the same stupid nonsense from alahazrat or wherever. Report him for multiple accounts and let it go.

thanks brother - I will avoid messaging this jil jak haq. I would have did my post Asr Dhikr instead of replying him.