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Old 01-23-2012, 06:47 PM   #1
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Default How to get out of the tribal/cultural influence in order to practice Islam?


So what are your experience(s) to achieve the above? To be able to see things according to what Islam teaches instead of looking at something through upbringing cultural mindset?

I had the opportunity to get out of my comfort zone and to travel and stayed overseas for a few years, so it altered my persepective of what universalism is. And from the interaction with the international communities that I've encountered, I have to say that only Islam offers true universalism as it defines humanism (person to person relationship) properly - which is a subset to human to God relationship, by which the latter defines the framework for the former. But to the majority of the Muslims who never left their countries or villages, their mindset will most probably be influenced by their cultural upbringing rather than the true Islamic teachings. However to get the Muslims to pull themselves above their own cultural mindset so that they'll be able to see things as per what Islam teaches is definitely not an easy task. Some Muslims are too extreme in their nationalism, often confusing nationalism with Islam (and using multiple out of context hadiths for example to justify their love for nationalism). Others never had the opportunity to mix with Muslims from other madzhabs which will reinforce their opinion of their own madzhabs in their day to day practices, only to become clueless (and often misunderstanding) when the time comes in dealing with Muslims from a different madzhab. And for these Muslims, more often than not that it is difficult for them to see the acceptable differences in regards to the different in opinions, as they don't know or fully understand the boundary of the acceptable disagreements that can occur without invalidating the core teachings of Islam.

I guess we can start talking about the true unification of the ummah if we can bring the Muslims to rise above the said threshold. Otherwise the localization of the thinking/cultural mindset will create more rhetorics and God forbid, will divide the ummah even more.

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Old 01-23-2012, 10:53 PM   #2
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So what are your experience(s) to achieve the above? To be able to see things according to what Islam teaches instead of looking at something through upbringing cultural mindset? Its easier to lose 'Nationalism' if one lives in a non-Muslim country. I remember I first started hating india after demolishing of Babri Masjid. I was young but i started hating india somehow. I used to support pakistani cricket team in secret for years. lolz. Then in college years nationalism slowly seeped back in, started supporting india. Then when i started hanging around sf and reading Islamic articles i came to know nationalism and tribalism is nonsense. The true Nation of Islam is under a Khilafath. Long for Khilafath and one will start losing nationalism. .
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #3
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السلام عليكم

In Kuwait, where i am from, tribalism is a tough cultural practice to root out. Some people still support a member of their own tribe even if they have done something wrong, people still vote in elections based on tribal affiliation and not on the morals of a candidate nor his principles.

May Allah swt guide us all to the true path
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:59 PM   #4
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Its best identify aspects that contridict shariah and speak specifically against them. The rest will evolve naturally or by encouraging reasoning. Note that Urf[custom] is considered as having a degree of validity in Islam.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:03 AM   #5
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a lot of this stuff is due to people being uneducated in their deen, some people genuinely can't distinguish between religion and culture

and some people know that their culture is ridiculous but because the rest of the community will judge you based on culture they can't do things against their culture in fear of being mocked by others

pretty sad but insha'Allah the coming generations are not as close minded
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:55 AM   #6
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Leave home.
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