[Kinds Of Pain Meds]

Well, I mean their is no scientific proof for this or fossils found of giants and such, a really confusing matter to me that effects my imam greatly.

[lzwha]

If it is possible for Allah to save Ibrahim from the fire, and to save Nuh from the flood and to create men and jinn from nothing, then of course he can give Adam 930 years of life and a gigantically tall stature. As for remains, have you dug up the entire Earth to find the remains of bani Adam? If I cannot find the grave of my great grandfather, does that mean he did not exist?

[SergZHy67]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Alif, Lam, Meem. (1)
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah - (2)
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, (3)

bro.
The complete knowledge of unseen rests with Allah the almighty alone. Even if we dig up a recent grave you won't find any bones, even the bones disintegrate. The only bones that fossilize are the ones that are preserved by the will of Allah . Don't use science to measure Islam, because science deals with only the materialistic world and it miserably fails to deal with the unseen realm. So have faith in Allah and ignore such whispers of Shaytaan that induce doubt in our minds. Seek refuge in Allah.

[Gulauur]

Well, I mean their is no scientific proof for this or fossils found of giants and such, a really confusing matter to me that effects my imam greatly.

Proof from modern science is not an evidence requirement in Islamic creed.

[zlopikanikanz]

2+2 = 4... this what men know Because it is the limit of human knowledge
If 2 + 2 adds an invisible matter/object with it then 2+2 = 5.

Similarly Science, Maths, Biology are just some terms in Duniya.

Bring all the scientist in the world, ask them the date and time the world was created. no one knows.
Only Allah know this.

[zlopikanikanz]

I heard from a elder -

Initially man used to be a gigantic figure. When prophets used to give dawah by telling the greatness of Allah, they would catch the tree and uproot it & tell that "I am powerful". Hence Allah decreased their heights.

Allah hu Alam...

[Ferkilort]

the human population of the earth only started off with 2 people and they lived longer than today. i assume they matured and had children over a longer period of time than we do today. so the population growth was a lot slower than today.

simply put there were a lot less humans on the earth in the time of hazrat adam (as). and not every bone gets fossilised. most disintegrate over time. so its not that there are no fossils. maybe we just have not discovered those fossils due to their rarity because of the factors mentioned above. maybe we HAVE dug out these fossils but dont recognise them as such due to their huge size.

i hope you understand the above. im very tired and falling asleep as i write this lol

[IrrettelatWet]

Well, I mean their is no scientific proof for this or fossils found of giants and such, a really confusing matter to me that effects my imam greatly.

brother i must admit this has also caused extreme problems for me. the reason why there arent any fossils is because at the time of hazrat adam a.s there were only a small number of people and thus there are only a few fossils that are deep under ground. humanity as rapidly decreased in size. even if they were discovered ( sorry for conspiracy theories) they would be supressed from the people as the western way of life and its belief of evolution would be exposed as false. so the west would never show these proof ever.

there are videos on youtube about giants. i remember one photo where there is a scientist and he is holding a giant human thigh bone and has a drawing of a giant skelton next to him to show the size of full body.

brother rememebr we are living in the materialistic, secualr westen societies. they like communists have fully brainwashed people that there is no god and that evolution is the real events of history. evolution never happend. but to maintain their false way of life they have brainwashed and indoctrinated people about evolution theory. they will hide and supress anything that proofs this theory false and proves gods existance.

[zlopikanikanz]

Good thread...welcome some more bothers to provide their views

[celddiskend]

there are people alive today who are more than 8 feet tall, and the same time there are people alive today who are less than 4 feet tall ..

also .. the ruins of Petra .. how did a 6 foot person build this? they didnt .. they were HUGE ..

http://www.akademifantasia.org/wp-co...5/image006.jpg

[Jjfotqse]

Well, I mean their is no scientific proof for this or fossils found of giants and such, a really confusing matter to me that effects my imam greatly.

Really? Giants? That's the most perplexing issue? How about the creation of the entire universe from nothing - with one command - 'Kun' ? How about the existence of Angels, some of which are so powerful they can overturn the earth with a flick of their wing? If we can believe such things, then surely giants are not a problem .

[rxnixoncom]

Subhanallah
My wife who is new Muslm came up with a beautiful answer I think

Firstly. Humankind has only studied a very small percentage of earth. As an expert diver, and living in the Carribean it is no surprise to see odd creatures of the sea and strange "large" object only Allah knows resting on the substrate beds.

Secondly. Do we see the jinn ? Do we see angels ? In there originally form or "any form".

Finally. Do you honesty believe all the large bones found had been strange dinosaurs ? Could they not have been of
Another creature only Allah knows about. When they find bones of many dinosaurs they are not at the same excavation
Sight, simply put togeather by a scientist as they believe

Allah is great and there is much we do not know of the past. Look at the change in only the last 100 years.
There have been powerful nations before us with strength we cannot imagine.

May Allah guide us all

[Hmwmzian]

What I find arrogant (this isn't directed at jellal) is that scientists admit and agree that subatomic particles have been known to spontaneously appear from nowhere. Is that not the scientific proof they require for the existence of a creator and creation in action?

[Aw1HhC0m]

One question I have always wondered in the back of my head; at what time period did Adam pbuh live? I know they were the first person and all that; but exactly how many years ago was it? This has always boggled my mind, and also dinosaurs? Were they around at the time of Adam pbuh

[pushokalex1]

assalam alaikum
Is there a hadeeth he lived 930 y?
Jazakum Allah khaira

[zlopikanikanz]

One knowledgeable, qualified Shaik said in his Bayan,...

Allah had fixed 1000 years for Adam(a.s). Once Allah showed the descendants of Adam(a.s) in the form of white and black dots/objects/stars.

Black ones are the one who will go astray from path of Allah.
White ones are the ones who obeys the commandments of Allah.

In the white ones, one was glowing very bright. Adam(a.s) asked who is this. Allah said he is Dawood a.s and he will be your descendant. Adam a.s asked how many years he would live on this Earth & came to know its very less. So Adam(a.s) will give 40 years of his life to Dawood A.S.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[pennadyFeet]

Salam 'Aleykum,

How can we know that by 930 years what is meant is since his creation (time he spent in the Garden as an immortal) ??? How do we know that his "giant" appearance isn't only restricted to when he was in the garden and when he came down to earth his appearance became that of an ordinary human? especially since I've seen several narrations describing the appearance of Humans in Jannah and it seems to be very different than our appearance on earth.

Salam.

[alecaf]

Also, some places that used to be dry land is now under the sea. During the Ice Age, the entire set of Indonesian islands was one large piece of land, called the Sundaland. The islands we see now were its mountains.

It's possible where Adam lived is now under the sea.

[JesexhiSeeces]

brothers and sisters,

There exist (more than) enough logical, factual, scientific proofs in Islam for one to realize that it is in fact the deen (religion) of God and not some made-up stories by human beings.

That being said, we need to believe 100% in everything which is mentioned in Quran & Hadith, whether it makes 'sense' to us at our limited human level and intellect, or not. We should realize that we have enough logical, factual, and scientific proof for us to not be "blind" believers, so when it comes to some of the things which we need to believe "blindly" because we don't necessarily have the physical proof in front of us, we should believe it just the same as we believe 1+1=2 or that gravity pulls downdwards. There should not be any if's, and's, or but's.

The subject matter of this thread comes under the same I believe, though it's not completely something which we need to believe blindly. There have been plenty of scientific studies citing the fact that humans used to be taller/larger and have gotten shorter in height as history has gone by. As far as the age thing, Quran and Hadith reiterate many times that people who lived before us had lifespans ranging up to many, many centuries. That should be enough for us to believe it.

It is just a bit concerning how far we sometimes go to question our own deen, rather than just believing.

Allah knows best.

[JesexhiSeeces]

Subhanallah
My wife who is new Muslm came up with a beautiful answer I think

Firstly. Humankind has only studied a very small percentage of earth. As an expert diver, and living in the Carribean it is no surprise to see odd creatures of the sea and strange "large" object only Allah knows resting on the substrate beds.

Secondly. Do we see the jinn ? Do we see angels ? In there originally form or "any form".

Finally. Do you honesty believe all the large bones found had been strange dinosaurs ? Could they not have been of
Another creature only Allah knows about. When they find bones of many dinosaurs they are not at the same excavation
Sight, simply put togeather by a scientist as they believe

Allah is great and there is much we do not know of the past. Look at the change in only the last 100 years.
There have been powerful nations before us with strength we cannot imagine.

May Allah guide us all

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