[QvhhbjLy]

Salaam alaikum,

I hope to be getting married to a second wife very shortly. I am wondering on some fiqh issues. She has two children who would be under my care as the father is no where to be seen after they divorced. What would the children status be to me, my first wife, my and my first wife's children, and any children I have with my second wife, in regards mahram and ghair mahram. Jazakumullah khair for any help.

[lzwha]

, I hope everything goes smoothly bro. the knowledgeable on the forum will be able to answer your questions

[QvhhbjLy]

Salaam alaikum,

Please make dua for this, also make dua for third and fourth as well.

[lzwha]

[QvhhbjLy]

salaam

[IrrettelatWet]

Salaam alaikum,

I hope to be getting married to a second wife very shortly. I am wondering on some fiqh issues. She has two children who would be under my care as the father is no where to be seen after they divorced. What would the children status be to me, my first wife, my and my first wife's children, and any children I have with my second wife, in regards mahram and ghair mahram. Jazakumullah khair for any help.

brother is the second wife children are above puberty then they are ghair mahram and u wiull be required to maintain sepration from them. if they are minors then u can even hold them there is no problem, but when the female children reach puberty u will be required to treat them as ghair mahram and remaim separtaed from them, as u r not their real father.

[SergZHy67]

salaam

Step father is mahram to the step daughter. Maulana Abu hajira has posted regarding this topic: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-step-daughter


Edit: http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...=6859&act=view

If fear of fitna: http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...14383&act=view

[IrrettelatWet]

brother is the second wife children are above puberty then they are ghair mahram and u wiull be required to maintain sepration from them. if they are minors then u can even hold them there is no problem, but when the female children reach puberty u will be required to treat them as ghair mahram and remaim separtaed from them, as u r not their real father.

as amr123 has replied i am confused now so dont take what i say as the truth.

[QvhhbjLy]

Salaam,

So al hamdulillah step daughter is mahram, what would be the status of the step son and step daughter to my first wife and the children I have with my first wife?

[SergZHy67]

Salaam,

So al hamdulillah step daughter is mahram, what would be the status of the step son and step daughter to my first wife and the children I have with my first wife?

http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...=6859&act=view

According to the Shar?'ah, a brother is one whose mother and father is the same, or they have one father but two mothers, or one mother but two fathers. They are all brothers. But if the father is different, and the mother is also different; that person will not be a brother.

[QvhhbjLy]

Salaam alaikum,

I just want to make sure that I am clear as I am not totally clear with the fatwa given.

I have a daughter with my first wife. I and my first wife are the parents of that daughter. My second wife has two children from a different marriage. So:
- in regards to me, I am there mahram as I am their step father and they are my step children.
- in regards to the children I have with my first wife, these two step children will be ghair mahram and can marry the children of my first wife
- in regards to my first wife these step children are ghair mahram and could marry my first wife if I pass away
- any children I have with the second wife will be mahram of the children I have with my first wife and they may never marry, as they are considered brothers and sisters.

I just want to be clear on this, jazakallah khair for the help.

[lzwha]

Salaam alaikum,

- in regards to the children I have with my first wife, these two step children will be ghair mahram and can marry the children of my first wife
- in regards to my first wife these step children are ghair mahram and could marry my first wife if I pass away

These two things are what you need to check out. From what I understand, they will not be ghair mahram but someone will clarify

[SergZHy67]

Salaam alaikum,

I just want to make sure that I am clear as I am not totally clear with the fatwa given.

I have a daughter with my first wife. I and my first wife are the parents of that daughter. My second wife has two children from a different marriage. So:
- in regards to me, I am there mahram as I am their step father and they are my step children.
- in regards to the children I have with my first wife, these two step children will be ghair mahram and can marry the children of my first wife
- in regards to my first wife these step children are ghair mahram and could marry my first wife if I pass away
- any children I have with the second wife will be mahram of the children I have with my first wife and they may never marry, as they are considered brothers and sisters.

I just want to be clear on this, jazakallah khair for the help.

http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...=6859&act=view

a. Mahram refers to all those persons with whom marriage is not permissible on a permanent basis Below is list detailing those with whom Nikah is not permissible on a permanenet basis.

Persons with whom Nik?h is Har?m forever

1. Marriage with one's children, grand-children, great grand-children, etc. is not permissible. Nor is marriage with one's parents, grand-parents, maternal grand-parents, etc. permissible. 2. Marriage with one's brothers, uncles and nephews is not permissible. According to the Shar?'ah, a brother is one whose mother and father is the same, or they have one father but two mothers, or one mother but two fathers. They are all brothers. But if the father is different, and the mother is also different; that person will not be a brother. Nik?h with him will be valid. 3. Marriage with one's son-in-law is not permissible. This is irrespective of whether the daughter is already living with him or not. In all cases, nik?h with him is har?m. 4. A girl's father passed away. Her mother married another person. However, before the mother could even live with her new husband, she passed away or he divorced her. In such a case, the girl can marry this step-father of hers. However, if the mother lived with him, it will not be permissible for this girl to marry him. 5. Nik?h with one's step-children is not valid. In other words, if a man has several wives, then one of the wives cannot marry the children of the co-wives. This is irrespective of whether she had lived with her husband or not. Nik?h with these children is prohibited under all circumstances. 6. It is not permissible for a woman to marry her father-in-law or even the father or grand-father of her father-in-law.



Yes what you posted is correct

What I understood is:
1.So you and the step children - Mahram.
2.Children of your 1st wife and children you will have of your 2nd wife - Mahram (as they have one father and two mothers ie same father and different mothers)
3.The 2 children of your 2nd wife of different husband and your children with 1st wife - Ghair Mahram (because they have different fathers and different mothers)
4. The 2 children of your 2nd wife of different husband and your 1 wife - Ghair Mahram

[mazabotman]

These two things are what you need to check out. From what I understand, they will not be ghair mahram but someone will clarify

I think he is right with the case of step siblings with different fathers.
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2) There are a man and woman who were both previously married (not to each other) and have children who are grown. Both this man and this woman's spouse passed away and they have now gotten married to each other. Now, their children want to get married (ie: step-siblings). Is this allowed?
Answer:
2. Yes, it will be permissible for the children (step-siblings) to marry one another. (Hindiyyah Vol.2 Pg.277)
http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...11699&act=view

[lzwha]

I think he is right with the case of step siblings with different fathers.
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2) There are a man and woman who were both previously married (not to each other) and have children who are grown. Both this man and this woman's spouse passed away and they have now gotten married to each other. Now, their children want to get married (ie: step-siblings). Is this allowed?
Answer:
2. Yes, it will be permissible for the children (step-siblings) to marry one another. (Hindiyyah Vol.2 Pg.277)
http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...11699&act=view

for that. Maybe the brother can look into the breast feeding issue if the children are young enough (so that they may be mahram to one another for sake of convenience)

[QvhhbjLy]

Salaam alaikum,

Jazakumullah khair to everyone for the excellent help. Now I feel certain of the ruling in the shariah al hamdulillah. The step children are too old to be nursed, but it is OK since I have seperate homes for each one of the wives. Thank you very much.

[highattainlet]

Salaam alaikum,

Jazakumullah khair to everyone for the excellent help. Now I feel certain of the ruling in the shariah al hamdulillah. The step children are too old to be nursed, but it is OK since I have seperate homes for each one of the wives. Thank you very much.

السلام عليكم

Where are you from brother? I think it's amazing you are planning on getting a second wife. I hope it all goes well for you alhamdulillah. Really, I have thought about this since you opened this thread, I find it truly amazing and inspiring that Allah SWT has given you the taufeeq to do something like this.

و عليكم السلام