[glagoliska]

Recently I have stumbled upon a propaganda video where a famous Deobandi sufi shaykh , Chor Monair Pir ,linked to Hazrat Rashid Ahmad Gangohi (RAH), is accused of Bidah.

The video can be seen here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXzac...eature=related

After more search , I have found that this lecturer, Motiur Rahman Madani is linked to
Dammam ,Saudi Arabia based organization.

http://www.icc.org.sa/

http://www.quraneralo.com/dvd-bangla...rahman-madani/

Here you can find his biography.

http://www.peacetvbangla.com/sp_muti...an_madani.html

It looks like the Wahabi people has even founded a Madrasah in India !!

Its really sad that the petro-dollar based Wahabi propaganda is spreading almost
every country on this earth.

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Recently I have stumbled upon a propaganda video where a famous Deobandi sufi shaykh , Chor Monair Pir ,linked to Hazrat Rashid Ahmad Gangohi (RAH), is accused of Bidah.

The video can be seen here.

why are you spreading the video now

[glagoliska]

why are you spreading the video now

Just to show how active the evil is !!

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Just to show how active the evil is !!

Evil being active is nothing new.

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Evil being active is nothing new.

... probs a good time to warn the probs 100's of Bangla Darul ULooms that this (new?) bangladesh based 'wahabi' org is gonna run rings around them for the next decade or so.....

[b3JOkwXL]

how the ring running going then? Is bangaldesh smashing shrines yet?

[b3JOkwXL]

according to wiki:

The Ahle Hadith (or the Salafi) is a movement which follows a strict interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah, without following a madh'hab. There are about 27.5 million followers, mainly in areas of Rajshahi and Khulna.[19] There are three main groups of Ahle Hadith, the majority are part of the Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (AHAB), led by Muhammad Asadullah Al-Ghalib. The other groups are the Jamiyate Ahle Hadith, and the Ahle Hadith Tablig-e-Islam. There are 600 Ahle Hadith mosques, and 5 madrassas in the country.[20]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_i...ons_and_sects#


looks like the "wahhabi" dawah is taking root in bangladesh. I had no idea subhanAllah. Looks like you guys can forget all about the shia and barelwis and ahmadis and christians and kuffar political ventures in bangladesh seeing as combatting wahhabis seems to be the top priority

[nTDsD0aU]

seeker_ikb,

You still haven't answered my question as to why reading a book that has a story in it about an 'awliya' killing a man with diarrhea (his intestines rupturing) after causing him to be insane and demented (causing him to play with his diarrhea and put it up his nose) is somehow supposed to foster 'love of Allah' in one's heart.

[b3JOkwXL]

is that question aimed at me bro? Im salafi so dont agree with the sufi nonsense although still am researching more into it at this stage so am not going to justify things like what you mentioned and i agree i dont get much of the "sprititual boost" that others seem to get from the sufi gatherings that I have attended so far and in fact get more of a spiritual boost at salafi events, which never fail to remind me of the shortness of this life and the importance of seeking forgiveness from Allah and gaining nearness to Allah. So if your question is aimed at me then I have no answer for you bro.

That said, I dont wish to get into direct confrontation with brothers here on the issue of salafi vs sufi although i get irritated sometimes reading thread after thread attacking salafis and spreading misinformation

[b3JOkwXL]

salafiyyah is virtualty everywhere now subhanAllah. I wondered why the barelwis have dropped their claims about being the majority of muslims. I know shia are 15% of muslims and deobandi and barelwis dont consider each other ahlas sunnah so I dont think the majority claim holds much weight against salafis anymore given that the n umber of barelwis, deobandis and salafis in the world now is about equal. It would be really nice if the whole ummah unites under salafiyyah inshAllah if things keep going this way, or deobandis and salafis unite and form a powerful alliance. In my oppinion these are the best two options for islam, as barelwis are more likely to ally with shias than salafis or deobandis. the founder of the barelwi movement considers deobandis to be kafir let alone ahlal bid'ah

[BypeVupyide]

according to wiki:

The Ahle Hadith (or the Salafi) is a movement which follows a strict interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah, without following a madh'hab. There are about 27.5 million followers, mainly in areas of Rajshahi and Khulna.[19] There are three main groups of Ahle Hadith, the majority are part of the Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (AHAB), led by Muhammad Asadullah Al-Ghalib. The other groups are the Jamiyate Ahle Hadith, and the Ahle Hadith Tablig-e-Islam. There are 600 Ahle Hadith mosques, and 5 madrassas in the country.[20]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_i...ons_and_sects#


looks like the "wahhabi" dawah is taking root in bangladesh. I had no idea subhanAllah. Looks like you guys can forget all about the shia and barelwis and ahmadis and christians and kuffar political ventures in bangladesh seeing as combatting wahhabis seems to be the top priority

Impact of Pseudo-Salafi ( Wahabi ) propaganda in Bangladesh


Before
Maulana: For an answer, maulana used to say i have read a KITAB and it's saying... or there r many hadiths saying that...
Muqtadis were satisfied with that answer.

After
Maulana : Start sweating if Muqtadi ask a question in public place.
Muqtadi: Now they ask Which KITAB, page number or In which hadith book, Hadith number.

Result: Pseudo-Salafi ( Wahabi ) propaganda spreading FITNA in Bangladesh.

[nTDsD0aU]

Well Dawud, your name is not 'seeker_ikb,' so no, it was not directed at yourself. No worries.

[CalBettaulp]

if you guys really want to know what sufism/tasawwuf is check out the lectures in the link below. Listen to all of it But if you won't listen to it with an open mind and with focus but with preconceptions then don't bother. It's a very detailed lecture and I'm sure will address many if not all your questions. This is for you especially brother Dawud. I noticed your confusion on this topic through many of your posts.

http://www.sacredlearning.org/tasawwuf

[TiepayWrary]

Neo Ahle Hadith is small compared to the the Jama'ah in Bangladesh, however Bengalis overseas (like UK / Saudi) are being influenced. And it is not hard to convince Bengalis against the Neo AH, trust me (and im a bengali ethnicially)

Because they have petro-dollars behind them this is the reason that they can do their Da'wah (like websites and videos) more otherwise, they are minute compared to the Majority in BD.

And i wouldn't trust wiki source no chance.

[TiepayWrary]

The lies of Motiur Rahman against Deobandis and the founders of the Movement is shocking, and iv even spoken to some of his die-hard fans. Doesn;t take more than a minute to expose their lies.

[WumibBesowe]

salafiyyah is virtualty everywhere now subhanAllah.

It would be really nice if the whole ummah unites under salafiyyah inshAllah if things keep going this way, or deobandis and salafis unite and form a powerful alliance. In my oppinion these are the best two options for islam, as barelwis are more likely to ally with shias than salafis or deobandis. the founder of the barelwi movement considers deobandis to be kafir let alone ahlal bid'ah

Check this thread to find out how to identify a subverted group.

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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...by-the-bankers

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[QzVyZbTg]

is that question aimed at me bro? Im salafi so dont agree with the sufi nonsense although still am researching more into it at this stage so am not going to justify things like what you mentioned and i agree i dont get much of the "sprititual boost" that others seem to get from the sufi gatherings that I have attended so far and in fact get more of a spiritual boost at salafi events, which never fail to remind me of the shortness of this life and the importance of seeking forgiveness from Allah and gaining nearness to Allah. So if your question is aimed at me then I have no answer for you bro.

That said, I dont wish to get into direct confrontation with brothers here on the issue of salafi vs sufi although i get irritated sometimes reading thread after thread attacking salafis and spreading misinformation

dont call sufism nonsense. sufisms actual and real name is tazkya. tazyak is mentioned as the second obligation of the prophet s.a.w. so u c sufism is not a sect but a branch of islam. by attacking and rejecting sufism u are rejecting the second obligation of the prophet s.a.w

[QzVyZbTg]

how the ring running going then? Is bangaldesh smashing shrines yet?

shrines is not part of sufism

[QzVyZbTg]

seeker_ikb,

You still haven't answered my question as to why reading a book that has a story in it about an 'awliya' killing a man with diarrhea (his intestines rupturing) after causing him to be insane and demented (causing him to play with his diarrhea and put it up his nose) is somehow supposed to foster 'love of Allah' in one's heart.

brother this is just a false story about a wali. that is all. why dont u read true stories of walis .ra like hazrat imam hassan basri r.a, hazrat imama ghazali r.a, hazrat sheikh abdul qadir jilani r.a, hazrat junaid bagdadi r.a hazrat mouideen chishti r.a among the many.

[glagoliska]

is that question aimed at me bro? Im salafi so dont agree with the sufi nonsense although still am researching more into it at this stage so am not going to justify things like what you mentioned and i agree i dont get much of the "sprititual boost" that others seem to get from the sufi gatherings that I have attended so far and in fact get more of a spiritual boost at salafi events, which never fail to remind me of the shortness of this life and the importance of seeking forgiveness from Allah and gaining nearness to Allah. So if your question is aimed at me then I have no answer for you bro.

That said, I dont wish to get into direct confrontation with brothers here on the issue of salafi vs sufi although i get irritated sometimes reading thread after thread attacking salafis and spreading misinformation

Since you are an English revert, you may find this English sufi saint quite interesting.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ish-Sufi-saint