[T1ivuQGS]

You can ask them to prove followin g according to hadits:
1) Adnan Oktar says that the name of Mahdi will be Adnan like his.
2) Adnan Oktar says that the eyes of Mahdi will be green like his.
3) Adnan Oktar says that the beard of Mahdi will be thin like his.
4) Adnan Oktar says that the walk of Mahdi will be like his.
5) Adnan Oktar says that the breast of Mahdi will bear a leaf like his.
6) Adnan Oktar says that the body of Mahdi will be broad like his.
7) Adnan Oktar says that the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
8) Adnan Oktar says that the eyebrows of Mahdi will be high like his.
9) Adnan Oktar says that the scar on the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
10) Adnan Oktar says that the hair of Mahdi will be luxuriant like his.
11) Adnan Oktar says that Mahdi will look young like him

you ask them and then come back here and post the hadith ok? thank you very much.

[Affiltavajefe]

He is made in Turkey but asserts he is Mahdi for all.he has many books tv channels etc. http://www.harunyahya.com/theauthor.php

[Affiltavajefe]

I am here to get informed from other sources and you are asking me to ask them. If you will not do anything at least do not teach anything also.

[Affiltavajefe]

just wait a little before answering in a cool manner and reply without listening to your nafs in an objective manner

[T1ivuQGS]

I am here to get informed from other sources and you are asking me to ask them. If you will not do anything at least do not teach anything also.

1. no one here is claiming that oktar is the mahdi.

2. oktar describes himself as the mahdi.

3. you have his email address.

4. as him for proof of his claims from quran and hadith.

[Affiltavajefe]

He says that the list I provided are from quran and hadith. The reason why I write here is to meet an informed person incident to said claims. If you do not have any info germane thereto you may simply desist from giving ideas and we all wait for an informed person.

[indocrew]

You can ask them to prove followin g according to hadits:
1) Adnan Oktar says that the name of Mahdi will be Adnan like his.
2) Adnan Oktar says that the eyes of Mahdi will be green like his.
3) Adnan Oktar says that the beard of Mahdi will be thin like his.
4) Adnan Oktar says that the walk of Mahdi will be like his.
5) Adnan Oktar says that the breast of Mahdi will bear a leaf like his.
6) Adnan Oktar says that the body of Mahdi will be broad like his.
7) Adnan Oktar says that the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
8) Adnan Oktar says that the eyebrows of Mahdi will be high like his.
9) Adnan Oktar says that the scar on the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
10) Adnan Oktar says that the hair of Mahdi will be luxuriant like his.
11) Adnan Oktar says that Mahdi will look young like him

brother, could you back up your claims please, where has Adnan Oktar said all this and compared himself to Mahdi? I'm not doubting you but the references would help to make your claims valid!

[nTDsD0aU]

So if someone claims anything and says 'this list is from Quran and hadith,' you are supposed to take his word for it?

Adnan Oktar is not the mahdi.

[Indian Butt Magic]

You can ask them to prove followin g according to hadits:
1) Adnan Oktar says that the name of Mahdi will be Adnan like his.
2) Adnan Oktar says that the eyes of Mahdi will be green like his.
3) Adnan Oktar says that the beard of Mahdi will be thin like his.
4) Adnan Oktar says that the walk of Mahdi will be like his.
5) Adnan Oktar says that the breast of Mahdi will bear a leaf like his.
6) Adnan Oktar says that the body of Mahdi will be broad like his.
7) Adnan Oktar says that the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
8) Adnan Oktar says that the eyebrows of Mahdi will be high like his.
9) Adnan Oktar says that the scar on the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
10) Adnan Oktar says that the hair of Mahdi will be luxuriant like his.
11) Adnan Oktar says that Mahdi will look young like him

I hereby claim the following things
1) Mahdis name will not be like Adnan Oktars.
2) Mahdis eyes will not be like Adnan Oktars.
3) Mahdis beard will not be like Adnan Oktars.
4) Mahdis walk will not be like Adnan Oktars.
5) Mahdis breast will not be like Adnan Oktars.
6) Mahdis body will not be like Adnan Oktars.
7) Mahdis brow will not be like Adnan Oktars.
8) Mahdis eybrows will not be like Adnan Oktars.
9) Mahdi will not have scares like Adnan Oktars.
10) Mahdis hair will not be like Adnan Oktars.
11) Mahdi will not look young like Adnan Oktar.

Now prove to me where in the Quran and Hadiths I have said is wrong.

[Affiltavajefe]

in the television programs he makes he claims the above and here you can see THE MAHDI’S FEATURES http://www.harunyahya.com/books/fait...ortents_03.php

[indocrew]

Mr. Adnan Oktar: I have no claim on being the Mahdi (pbuh) neither do I have systems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjYway5xHw

[Affiltavajefe]

How shall I to take your word for it if you do not prove the opposite?

[Affiltavajefe]

He also says Mahdi will have no claim on being the Mahdi (pbuh) after claiming the following things

1) Adnan Oktar says that the name of Mahdi will be Adnan like his.
2) Adnan Oktar says that the eyes of Mahdi will be green like his.
3) Adnan Oktar says that the beard of Mahdi will be thin like his.
4) Adnan Oktar says that the walk of Mahdi will be like his.
5) Adnan Oktar says that the breast of Mahdi will bear a leaf like his.
6) Adnan Oktar says that the body of Mahdi will be broad like his.
7) Adnan Oktar says that the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
8) Adnan Oktar says that the eyebrows of Mahdi will be high like his.
9) Adnan Oktar says that the scar on the brow of Mahdi will be like his.
10) Adnan Oktar says that the hair of Mahdi will be luxuriant like his.
11) Adnan Oktar says that Mahdi will look young like him

[indocrew]

bro, ur not making sense and stop posting your 11 points time and time again

[indocrew]

He also says Mahdi will have no claim on being the Mahdi (pbuh) after claiming the following things

1) Adnan Oktar says that the name of Mahdi will be Adnan like his.

where does he say that? I found this from the link you provided...

THE MAHDI’S NAME

O People, it is certain that Allah has forbidden to you the oppressors, the hypocrites and those who abide by them, and has made the Mahdi, the most auspicious of Muhammad’s community, and who is in Makkah and whose name is AHMAD, son of Abdullah, your leader. Join him.

(Ibid., p. 31)

The figurative meaning regarding the subject is revealed thus in a verse:

… giving you the good news of a Messenger after me whose name is Ahmad. (Surat as-Saff, 6) he doesnt say mahdi's name will be Adnan

[Affiltavajefe]

You are not also making sense with ad hominem remarks. If you have knowledge to refute said claims then do it at once and if you cannot and have no knowledge, desist from making statements and let's await an informed person incident to subject.

[Affiltavajefe]

Here he says it but unfortunately it is in Turkish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH65JRqd-zU

[Affiltavajefe]

ok here I found

http://us3.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/7...TO_REVEAL_IT._

ADNAN OKTAR:Let me have it. Loo everyone knows the 'Qasida Ar-Arjuza' in which Hazrat Ali says that out Prophet's (saas) name is Adnan; Hazrat Ali's qasida is famous. It is narrated that following one event Hazrat Ali addressed our Prophet (saas), who gave him the title of Abu Turab, as “The Prophet Mustafa Adnan the Hadi.”See how he addresses our Prophet(saas); "The Prophet Mustafa Adnan, the Mahdi" in that time. I therefore came to have two names. And there is the title I had never heard before. He gave me this title, Abu Turab: The Prophet Mustafa Adnan the Hadi

We can thus see that Hazrat Mahdi(pbuh)'s name is Adnan, that is because it is his family name. For instance in a person's family line, whoever is the last person known is that person's line, his family line comes from that person. The name of the Prophet's (saas) known, I mean known as the grandfather initiating his family line, is Adnan. Consequently all the people coming from that line are known as the Ben-i Adnan, the People of Adnan. Our Prophet (saas) is one of the People of Adnan. When we ask his father's name, when he is addressed, we speak of his father as the "Mister Adnan" and of his son as the "Mister Adnan." That is because they are addressed by their surnames, as you know. And if our Prophet (saas) were still with us now, we would address him as "Mister Adnan." We would call his son the same thing if he were here, and we would have called his father as "Mister Adnan" as well. He therefore says, "His name is compatible with mine, and his father's name is compatible with my father's name." That means they are equivalent and the same. How can that be? This can only be with their surnames, as surname is what one addresses people by. That is said by Hazrat Ali(ra). He addresses our Prophet(saas) as ; "The Prophet Mustafa Adnan, the Mahdi". We can therefore see that interpretations stating that the name would be Ahmet, Mahmut, Muhammed and Mustafa are not accurate. But the name our Prophet (saas) gave him, the name he gave him at that time is "Mohammed," that is the name he gave to the Mahdi. Our Prophet (saas) also gave him the name Ahmet. He gave him these names but kept his true name concealed. That is what we see from this hadith. Insha'Allah.

[Affiltavajefe]

Sorry, I have to leave the forum now. See you tomorrow.

[Indian Butt Magic]

dont bother returning