[Forex Trading Software]

I found this interesting paragraph in NY Times!!!

Meanwhile, Boko Haram has evolved into a franchise that includes criminal groups claiming its identity. Revealingly, Nigeria’s State Security Services issued a statement on Nov. 30, identifying members of four “criminal syndicates” that send threatening text messages in the name of Boko Haram. Southern Nigerians — not northern Muslims — ran three of these four syndicates, including the one that led the American Embassy and other foreign missions to issue warnings that emptied Abuja’s high-end hotels. And last week, the security services arrested a Christian southerner wearing northern Muslim garb as he set fire to a church in the Niger Delta. In Nigeria, religious terrorism is not always what it seems.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/op...pagewanted=all

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Yet, without any daleel, we believe the lies of the faasiqeen time and again, whilst on the other hand we have been commanded to VERIFY... Here are the same faasiqeen singing a different tune.

[rockboyzaza]

They have to be condenmed as the actions are clearly forbidden. Who is behind it, does not justify the action. The lack of condemnation and such free allowance of terrorist groups to operate under Islam is precisely the reason why kafirs can take advantage of it and easily blame Muslims. We will never know whos behind it. The Muslims of Nigeria are better source of knowledge then New York Times.

Another point I want to make is that, all groups who operate in a hidden manner should be rejected. The Prophet(pbuh) nor the companions operated as hidden shadowy people. We don't know who exactly is behind this plenty of hidden groups, which could be enemys of Islam playing games to hatch plots. So this danger should be enough to reject them outright as defult view and only listen to them if the come out in public view and clarify their associations and backgrounds and intentions.

Wasalam

[Dvjkefdw]

they have to be condenmed as the actions are clearly forbidden. Who is behind it, does not justify the action. The lack of condemnation and such free allowance of terrorist groups to operate under islam is precisely the reason why kafirs can take advantage of it and easily blame muslims. We will never know whos behind it. The muslims of nigeria are better source of knowledge then new york times.

Another point i want to make is that, all groups who operate in a hidden manner should be rejected. The prophet(pbuh) nor the companions operated as hidden shadowy people. We don't know who exactly is behind this plenty of hidden groups, which could be enemys of islam playing games to hatch plots. So this danger should be enough to reject them outright as defult view and only listen to them if the come out in public view and clarify their associations and backgrounds and intentions.

Wasalam

asww
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[Forex Trading Software]

They have to be condenmed as the actions are clearly forbidden. Who is behind it, does not justify the action. The lack of condemnation and such free allowance of terrorist groups to operate under Islam is precisely the reason why kafirs can take advantage of it and easily blame Muslims. We will never know whos behind it. The Muslims of Nigeria are better source of knowledge then New York Times.

Another point I want to make is that, all groups who operate in a hidden manner should be rejected. The Prophet(pbuh) nor the companions operated as hidden shadowy people. We don't know who exactly is behind this plenty of hidden groups, which could be enemys of Islam playing games to hatch plots. So this danger should be enough to reject them outright as defult view and only listen to them if the come out in public view and clarify their associations and backgrounds and intentions.

Wasalam

What kind of a reply was that????

Whole thing makes no sense from the start to the end!

Seriously, did you even read before firing away on your keyboard?

And last week, the security services arrested a Christian southerner wearing northern Muslim garb as he set fire to a church in the Niger Delta.

So, now, do we still condemn Muslims???

[freeringsf]

What kind of a reply was that????

Whole thing makes no sense from the start to the end!

Seriously, did you even read before firing away on your keyboard?

And last week, the security services arrested a Christian southerner wearing northern Muslim garb as he set fire to a church in the Niger Delta.

So, now, do we still condemn Muslims???

maybe people are using boko haram's name to carry out their own agendas but actual boko haram arent innocent either...wrong concepts wrong approach. when did opposing western education and ethnic cleansing become legal in islam?
Allahualam

[nTDsD0aU]

They have to be condenmed as the actions are clearly forbidden. Who is behind it, does not justify the action. The lack of condemnation and such free allowance of terrorist groups to operate under Islam is precisely the reason why kafirs can take advantage of it and easily blame Muslims. We will never know whos behind it. The Muslims of Nigeria are better source of knowledge then New York Times.

Another point I want to make is that, all groups who operate in a hidden manner should be rejected. The Prophet(pbuh) nor the companions operated as hidden shadowy people. We don't know who exactly is behind this plenty of hidden groups, which could be enemys of Islam playing games to hatch plots. So this danger should be enough to reject them outright as defult view and only listen to them if the come out in public view and clarify their associations and backgrounds and intentions.

Wasalam

Right, so the actions are forbidden, but the question is- who is doing them? it is not answered by the media, and there is no point in doing condemnations of whom the media says is doing bad things. Why is that? because the media is a bunch of lying kuffar, so what is the point of listening to the media and saying 'well the MEDIA SEZ THAT BOKO HARAM IZ DOIN THIS SO I CONDEMN IT.' How do you know it's even happening that way? And furthermore, what does your 'condemnation' do?

Kaafirs will blame Islam anyway, they don't care if you condemn it or not. In the US, there is a joke- whenever a Muslim does something anywhere in the world, CAIR issues a press release. Nobody 'cairs' if you'll pardon the pun. They are not printed and they are probably thrown away unopened as the wolves in journalists' clothing descend savagely on some new reason to attack Islam and the Muslims.

mh- do you think their actual name is 'Boko Haram?' it's a derogatory nickname given to them by the media.

Look, I'm not saying that the actions which they are being blamed for are good. What I am saying is twofold;
1) There is no benefit in condemning them or doing anything whatsoever about them, including discussing them, unless first-hand information is had, and none of us have that now and none of us will have it in the near future.
2) see #1.

[reervieltnope]

Brother, let me give you a word of advice, the NY Times has become a tabloid as of late, especially in matters dealing with the Muslim world. I've caught their lies too many times, do not fall victim to it.

[Triiooman]

Shalom Aleikhom,

Its sad how people are doing this to defame Islam. Its not that muslims dont do it. There are training camps where they abuse children from early childhood and grow them up as brainwashed terrorists. A western women did a research on the issue and showed how bad people brainwash kids and grow them up as terrorists and they defame Islam.

The world is unfair, the news you quoted wont be flashed in TV screens day and night. But if the guy would not be a christian but a muslim, it would become the story of the month.

Peace
---------------- Student of Allah

[freeringsf]

Right, so the actions are forbidden, but the question is- who is doing them? it is not answered by the media, and there is no point in doing condemnations of whom the media says is doing bad things. Why is that? because the media is a bunch of lying kuffar, so what is the point of listening to the media and saying 'well the MEDIA SEZ THAT BOKO HARAM IZ DOIN THIS SO I CONDEMN IT.' How do you know it's even happening that way? And furthermore, what does your 'condemnation' do?

Kaafirs will blame Islam anyway, they don't care if you condemn it or not. In the US, there is a joke- whenever a Muslim does something anywhere in the world, CAIR issues a press release. Nobody 'cairs' if you'll pardon the pun. They are not printed and they are probably thrown away unopened as the wolves in journalists' clothing descend savagely on some new reason to attack Islam and the Muslims.

mh- do you think their actual name is 'Boko Haram?' it's a derogatory nickname given to them by the media.

Look, I'm not saying that the actions which they are being blamed for are good. What I am saying is twofold;
1) There is no benefit in condemning them or doing anything whatsoever about them, including discussing them, unless first-hand information is had, and none of us have that now and none of us will have it in the near future.
2) see #1.

ok, what is their actual name?
what dyu propose one does if some modernists come to you and ask you to explain their actions...do you condemn them or do you remain silent?
all over the world kuffar as well as modernized muslims are taking examples of such groups to justify their pains with islam. the kafir opinion is too disgusting to state but even the muslims of the modern type have started questioning whether the islam given to them by the ulema is in fact the actual islam.
we know that the islam given by the ulema is indeed the actual islam but one must be crystal clear ethnic and sectarian violence (who so ever does it) is wrong. period

[flowersnewacq]

I found this interesting paragraph in NY Times!!!

Meanwhile, Boko Haram has evolved into a franchise that includes criminal groups claiming its identity. Revealingly, Nigeria’s State Security Services issued a statement on Nov. 30, identifying members of four “criminal syndicates” that send threatening text messages in the name of Boko Haram. Southern Nigerians — not northern Muslims — ran three of these four syndicates, including the one that led the American Embassy and other foreign missions to issue warnings that emptied Abuja’s high-end hotels. And last week, the security services arrested a Christian southerner wearing northern Muslim garb as he set fire to a church in the Niger Delta. In Nigeria, religious terrorism is not always what it seems. There was an interesting comment a Nigerian Muslim made to me once, where he said that sometimes, the violence in Nigeria was indeed the result of Muslims starting to do some acts of violence against Christians. This is not meant to be a general statement, but perhaps we could see what other Nigerian Muslims have to say about this so that we can gain a clearer picture.