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Old 01-05-2012, 07:23 PM   #1
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Default Cordoba Academy employs Wahhabis?
Cordoba Academy employs Wahhabis

According to this website:

http://www.yousefalkhattab.com/2012/...-welcomes.html

http://www.yousefalkhattab.com/2012/...es-wahabi.html

http://www.yousefalkhattab.com/2012/...do-abu-al.html
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:42 PM   #2
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I don't know who the person in question is..rather than him being a wahabbi or whatever it concerns me more that in his little biography there are no credible islamic qualifications and yet he is a teacher
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:58 PM   #3
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astagfirullah. I regret botehring to click on those links.

ANd cordoba academy is an excellent place of seeking knowledge that covers many beneficial classical texts in hadeeth science and things.

Such a shame that the ummmah has been afflicted with this disease. all anyone seems to want to do is back bite and criticise
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:36 AM   #4
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It's already being discussed here:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...gram-2011-2012

As I said there, it's not really that he's a Salafi that I have a problem with, it's the kind of Salafi he is.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:53 AM   #5
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You take knowledge when it is good. It makes no differece where it is comming from. I am not fond of wahabyte but they also contributed at scholarly level. One has to be highly prejidiced to think otherwise.
As a rule I don't listen to non scholarly individual when islamic sciences is concern. I have witness non scholarly individual saying things on matter out of their league and laymen accepting their ignorance.
Allahualam
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:07 AM   #6
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I've studied courses at CA and they've never said anything like what is on those lnks. For me the courses were some of the best I've ever studied and I agree with brother Beale and am sure many other agree too.

Nahda, those links that you gave are disgusting and only contain sins or slander, swearing, backbiting and other things. You can be reminded by this
Shubayl ibn 'Awf said, "It is said, 'Whoever hears something indecent and then spreads it is like the one who originated it.'"

If you know the owner of the site you can advise him of these hadith as well
'Abdullah reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "A believer is not a defamer nor a curser nor coarse nor obscene."
Jabir ibn 'Abdullah reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Allah does not love the loud and coarse nor the one who shouts in the markets." (adaab AL mufrad
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:27 AM   #7
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I've studied courses at CA and they've never said anything like what is on those lnks. For me the courses were some of the best I've ever studied and I agree with brother Beale and am sure many other agree too.

Nahda, those links that you gave are disgusting and only contain sins or slander, swearing, backbiting and other things. You can be reminded by this
Shubayl ibn 'Awf said, "It is said, 'Whoever hears something indecent and then spreads it is like the one who originated it.'"

If you know the owner of the site you can advise him of these hadith as well
'Abdullah reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "A believer is not a defamer nor a curser nor coarse nor obscene."
Jabir ibn 'Abdullah reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Allah does not love the loud and coarse nor the one who shouts in the markets." (adaab AL mufrad
Asalam 3leikoum wr wb,

I am the owner of that site and the slander,swearing,backbiting and other things I have seen is when I did a search of all posts of Cordoba Teacher Abu Najm Fernando aka Ibn al-Iskander on IA forum. I have every right to defend myself and others from his reckless slander of Asharis,Sufis,his own teachers and myself. Until he repents or they can him I will continue insh'Allah.

The way I see it is just as we have Yahood & Nassarah we also have Wahabia. Just as I would be weary of a Mutazilah or a Shi3i teaching Hadeeth, I would be weary of a Wahabi doing so. What makes it even worst is that he promotes and interacts with his students on IA and elsewhere indoctrinating them into the IA Abuz Zubair ideology of "Exposing the Munafiq" (his strain of jarh wtadeel on the Ummah)and being all the adjectives you described above.

I remind you that I am free to post what I wish on my site just as Cordoba Academy is free to hire & promote those they feel have a legit point of view.

Fiamanillah
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:42 AM   #8
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brother yousuf, I understand that you are angry because they have been accusing you of being a zionist spy but you shoudlnt let that anger cause you to start defaming islanic knowledge websites. Use your time for something better bro.

We dont even know if the IA poster is the same person who is emplyed by CI as they have different names and CI is well known on this site and well respected and i think saying that just like we have jews and christians then we also have wahabis is getting somewhat over emotional and letting your emotins cause you to be injust, that sounds borderline takfeeri, im sure you have more brains than to go round calling people wahhabi, im sure you know that its a name of Allah and that shaikh muhamamd ibn abdul wahhab is even respected by deobandi scholars and he only removed shirk from the arabian peninsular. im sure dont agree with the nonsense some muslims do in terms of caslling on the dead and and seeking blessing (tabarruk) from trees and things. your showing more hostility to salafis than even any of the deobandis ive seen, im sure you havent become a barelwi or haqqani
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:54 AM   #9
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I could care less about the Zionist Spy theory. What you call nonsense are hadeeth sahih and you could learn about them here by a Deobandi aalem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbbsoK5FyE.
We DO know who the poster is and he and they will tell you that is Abu Najm. I remind you not to get into Brelvi/Haqqani/Deobandi issues as you are new to the Deen and I respect that. The postition that the Wahabia have broken from ijmah is clear and thus our Jammat holds them to be deviants.
The name of Allah swt is al-Wahab and w/o the al- IS NOT the name of Allah and w/o the niyah it is not. Yusuf Estes speaks well on the topic, unfortunately his Arabic sucks as does his understanding of Ahlus Sunnah. Just as an Ashari is a follower of Abu Hasan al Ashari a follower of MAW is a Wahabi. Even BinBaz clearly calls the wahabiya "wahabia! … وليست الوهابية حسب تعبير الكاتب بدعاً في إنكار مثل هذه الأمور البدعية، بل عقيدة الوهابية: هي التمسك بكتاب الله وسنة رسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم
http://www.binbaz.org.sa/mat/8159
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:25 AM   #10
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brother yousuf, I understand that you are angry because they have been accusing you of being a zionist spy but you shoudlnt let that anger cause you to start defaming islanic knowledge websites. Use your time for something better bro.

We dont even know if the IA poster is the same person who is emplyed by CI as they have different names and CI is well known on this site and well respected and i think saying that just like we have jews and christians then we also have wahabis is getting somewhat over emotional and letting your emotins cause you to be injust, that sounds borderline takfeeri, im sure you have more brains than to go round calling people wahhabi, im sure you know that its a name of Allah and that shaikh muhamamd ibn abdul wahhab is even respected by deobandi scholars and he only removed shirk from the arabian peninsular. im sure dont agree with the nonsense some muslims do in terms of caslling on the dead and and seeking blessing (tabarruk) from trees and things. your showing more hostility to salafis than even any of the deobandis ive seen, im sure you havent become a barelwi or haqqani


It's pretty clear that they are the same person.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:04 PM   #11
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brother yousuf al khattab take my advice brother and go spend some days in tableegh and find a good sufi shaykh. The US has many khulafah of pir zulfiqar saab. It would be more useful if you did this.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #12
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brother yousuf al khattab take my advice brother and go spend some days in tableegh and find a good sufi shaykh. The US has many khulafah of pir zulfiqar saab. It would be more useful if you did this.
Barek Allah feek for the nasiha. I have a good Sufi Sheikh here and Tableegh may Allah bless them is not my culture or direction. I prefer Darul Uloom and as I stated before if Mufti Desai would tell me not to warn of those that mock them I would stop.FULL STOP! I feel more comfortable taking nasiha with those who post under their real name like Sheikh Desai. (and that was not meant to be an insult)I am curious why you keep mentioning Jaamat Tabligh as the answer to all problems? I would never suggest for example an African American Ashari/Shafi/Rifiai that are busy giving daily daroos to the Muslim African/American native community here to make kharooj. That is my advice. I love the brothers at JT and have gone to there merkaz and homes and had that at my home.Alhumdulilah very sweet they are and 100% polar opposite from myself. May Allah bless them and assist them.

Anyways I don't want to derail from the subject we are discussing here and give my salams to Pir Saab.

Fiamanillah.
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