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Old 05-30-2010, 11:31 AM   #1
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Default Why has Ammar (son of Ml. Zahid ur Rashidi) not been refuted?
Asslam-o-Alaikum,

I heard about one of the son of Maulana Zahid ur Rasheedi had accepted the religion of Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi (a Hadeeth Rejector). but now I was reading a book of Maulana Muhammad Rafiq "Javed Ghamdi aur Inkar-e-Hadeeth" in which he said that Maulana Zahid ur Rasheedi shouldn't show "Maslihat" on Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi and refute him openly.

after that i asked a few students from a madrassa about Ammar , they told me he has really accepted ghamdi religion and have also written some books. and he also calls himself modern. today I went through the web and found that its true , he really has accepted ghamdi and is writting for him. in his Monthly Ashraaq. he has been mentioned on ghamdi's site and even asnwered allegations on ghamdi on some sites.

I really feel bad to know that he has left true faith. but I feel more bad to know that Ammar is still writing in Muslim magazines.

Why hasn't Maulana Zahid ur Rasheedi refuted Ghamdi openly , why has he not broken relation with Ammar for accepting Ghamdi religion. Why is Ammar not openly refuted by Ulema.

Please guide me .
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Old 05-30-2010, 05:58 PM   #2
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Asslam-o-Alaikum,

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Old 05-30-2010, 08:23 PM   #3
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Perhaps because he is not popular. I've never heard of him. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he is the son of Mawlan Zahidur Rashidi. A refutation of the Ghamidi ideology would apply to all his students and followers, including this 'Ammar' person.
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Old 05-31-2010, 12:04 PM   #4
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Rather than people discuss the many possible sides to this issue on Sunniforum, it should be a priority to seek clarification on the matter from Hazrat Mawlana Zahidur Rashidi himself. What proof is there to say Mawlana has not broken relations with him? etc. I think the matter should be left closed till then. It is not permissible to speak without adequate knowledge and merely on assumptions.
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:56 PM   #5
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Asslam-o-Alaikum,

still no proper answer ?? Can anyone ask Maulana Zahid ur Rasheedi sahab for this issue ??
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:30 PM   #6
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Rather than people discuss the many possible sides to this issue on Sunniforum, it should be a priority to seek clarification on the matter from Hazrat Mawlana Zahidur Rashidi himself. What proof is there to say Mawlana has not broken relations with him? etc. I think the matter should be left closed till then. It is not permissible to speak without adequate knowledge and merely on assumptions.


I think Mufti Javed sahib's recent advices should be taken very seriously by us on the forum.

for the corrections, Mufti sahib, and I humbly request you to continue to direct us to the correct aadaab.
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Old 06-01-2010, 03:31 PM   #7
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Alot of Ulema have talked to Maulana Zahid. He himself was quite worried in the beginning to the extent that he wanted to denounce his son. But now he seems to be ok with it. He wrote a preface for a book written by Ammar on Hudood & Taziraat which basically rejected the Islamic Punishment for Zina by a married person, a concept introduced by ghamdi, and further elaborated by ammar. By the way Ammar is not the only deobandi scholar who is working for Ghamdi, quite a number of scholars are working for him, some qualified from dar ul uloom karachi, as far as i have heard.
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:00 PM   #8
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, quite a number of scholars are working for him, some qualified from dar ul uloom karachi, as far as i have heard.
No use calling them scholars when they are hadith rejectors
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:21 PM   #9
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Alot of Ulema have talked to Maulana Zahid. He himself was quite worried in the beginning to the extent that he wanted to denounce his son. But now he seems to be ok with it. He wrote a preface for a book written by Ammar on Hudood & Taziraat which basically rejected the Islamic Punishment for Zina by a married person, a concept introduced by ghamdi, and further elaborated by ammar.
So you're saying Mawlana Zahidur Rashidi wrote a preface to a book denying the Hadd for Zina? Can you post the scans here?

By the way Ammar is not the only deobandi scholar who is working for Ghamdi, quite a number of scholars are working for him, some qualified from dar ul uloom karachi, as far as i have heard.
Getting carried away with exaggeration, aren't we? Rather than saying 'quite a few', it's more truthful and accurate to say a handful. And once they join th Ghamidi sect, they are no longer representing the Deobandis nor are they considered Deobandis any longer. One graduate of Binnori Town joined the Ghamidis, as soon as this was discovered, the shuyukh of Binnori town revoked his ijazahs.

as far as i have heard.
As far as you have heard? That's all you have? Have you heard the admonitions about those who spread rumors and false news in the Qur'an and Hadith?
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:28 AM   #10
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Dr. Mufti Abdul Wahid, Lahore has written a refutation on the book and has critcized Maulana Zahid's stand. The refutation is available from the Hilal Masjid, Chuburgi, Lahore.
By the way, Not everything heard is necessarily a rumor.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:20 AM   #11
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Assalam o 'alaykum,

Many have voiced their concerns about Muhammad 'Ammar Khan Nasir at proper places. Absence of knowledge doesn’t amount to absence of refutation.

Here is something detailed from Mawlana 'Abd al-Haq Khan Naqshbandi, uncle of 'Ammar Khan. Discussion on views of 'Ammar Khan starts somewhere in the middle of the article.

http://www.sarfrazsafdar.org/minhaj-..._aqaed_haq.htm
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
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Asslam-o-ALaikum,

but has anyone written any book agaisnt ammar
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:59 PM   #13
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mufti Abdul Wahid in his book in urdu مقام عبرت
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:19 PM   #14
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Asslam-o-Alaikum,

Osamashk brother is this book a available online.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:11 PM   #15
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I searched for it on the net but i couldnt find it.
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Old 01-08-2012, 02:14 PM   #16
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Asslam-o-Alaikum,

Osamashk brother is this book a available online.
http://www.alsharia.org/mujalla/2009...abdulwahid.php
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