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Old 10-16-2011, 04:44 AM   #1
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Default A conference in Moradabad to check ‘Wahabi extremism’ in India
http://twocircles.net/2011oct14/conf...%99_india.html

Its estimated that 80% of Muslims in India are Sufi Sunni Muslims:

http://sunninews.wordpress.com/
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:49 AM   #2
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http://twocircles.net/2011oct14/conf...%99_india.html

Its estimated that 80% of Muslims in India are Sufi Sunni Muslims:

http://sunninews.wordpress.com/
So basically, anyone who is not a Barelvi or a Shi'a will be in attendance at this conference? Shi'as and Barelvis are brothers anyway. And your "sunninews" should rename itself to "mubtadinews".
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:36 PM   #3
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I dont think thats the case
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:38 PM   #4
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I dont think thats the case
Why isn't it? It's quite apparent because the Barelvis have joined this organization. Barelvis call Deobandis as Wahhabis and they call Ahle Hadees as Wahhabis. They even call many Jamaate Islami people as Wahhabis.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:00 AM   #5
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What a bold claim. 80% are sufi. So they are all practicing tassawuf and in tariqah and is actively working in rectification of self and adhereing the usul of suluk of mujahida etc.
It is also pathetic one organises such conference. Instead of trying to address the social issue, we have so called sufi trying to combat wahabyte extremism. This act itself proves how anti sufi/suluk and extreme they are. Fitnah monger
The are not sufi but as missguided as those who they try to castigate.
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Your post also made me think of something. Why are they holding an anti-Wahhabi conference? To appease the Hindus? Why aren't they holding an anti-Hindu conference if their intentions are sincerely for the sake of Islam? You don't see Wahhabis holding anti-Sufi conferences.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:21 AM   #6
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We should know that being a "Sufi" does not mean one is necessarily "peace-loving" (in the sense of not having anything to do with warfare). We only need to look in the past few centuries, when the armed resistance movements across all the Muslim world were led by the Shaykhs of Tassawuf. It is only recently that armed resistance is being led by peopkle other than those involved in Tassawuf.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:23 AM   #7
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Also from the article itself, I wonder how much of the "extreme positions" can be attributed to "Barelvis", since the Barelvis are meant to be basically the same as their opponents in terms of Fiqh, and the differences are in certain matters of 'Aqeedah.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #8
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:01 PM   #9
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From The Hindu


“When anyone tries to recruit you into terrorism, hand him over to the police”

The All India Ulama & Mashaikh Board (AIUMB) on Sunday gave a call to Sunni Muslims across India to reject and rebuff hardline Wahabism so that Islam could return to its tolerant, Sufi roots: “When an extremist turns up at your door seeking your support, when anyone tries to recruit you into terrorism, hand him over to the nearest police station,” said Board general secretary Maulana Syed Mohd Ashraf Kachochavi, addressing a large-sized Maha Panchayat of Sunni Muslims here.

The Maulana also asked the government to immediately pass legislation to set up a Central Madrasa Board so that fundings to madrasas could be audited and a watch kept on the flow of Saudi petro-dollars into madrasa education.

The Maha Panchayat was a sort of “coming out” event for the AIUMB, which claims to represent 80 per cent of Sunni Muslims (themselves accounting for the largest share of Indian Muslims) and yet has been barely visible on the Indian Muslim political and cultural scene. The AIUMB's case is that despite their huge numbers, they have not been able to assert themselves because the Deobandis and the Wahabis have captured key Muslim institutions such as the Wakf Board and the madrasas, and also wield political influence far beyond their size: “The government listens only to the hardliners. It has handed over Wakf properties and Masjids, which belong to us, to them.”

Board members stressed the threat from Wahabi extremism over and over in their speeches to the Maha Panchayat, arguing that a small group of people had succeeded in giving a bad name to Islam and Muslims, most of whom were Sunni Sufis and therefore peace-loving, tolerant and intensely patriotic. Speakers also emphasised the essentially inclusive nature of Sufism which did not differentiate between Muslims and non-Muslims and allowed all communities to pray in their shrines. The Deobandis, on the other hand, did not allow their followers to go to Sufi dargahs.

“The time has come for us to come out and claim our rights. Let us take a pledge that we will never support Wahabi extremism — not today, not tomorrow. Let us take a pledge that we will work for the unity and integrity of our motherland,” Maulana Kachochavi told the gathering.

Later talking to the press, the Maulana made a strong pitch for a Madrasa Board saying: “Right now the madrasas are under the control of Wahabi-inspired organisations which run on Saudi money. The ideology they teach and spread is hardline Wahabism. These organisations have put pressure on the government not to enact the Act. We want the funds to go to the really needy and poor.”

Remarkably, the Maha Panchayat appeared to have been boycotted by the influential Urdu press. Last week, when the Board held a press conference in Delhi, Urdu journalists were openly hostile to the organisers, arguing that the AIUMB was trying to divide Muslims, and was no different from the Sangh Parivar, which saw all Muslims as terrorists.

Opposed to Congress

When journalists brought up the issue of the AIUMB's political leanings on Sunday, AIUMB members insisted that they were apolitical. However, Maulana Kachochavi made it clear that the AIUMB was opposed to the Congress, “which propped up hardline organisations like the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind.” Asked if the AIUMB would put up its own candidates in the Uttar Pradesh Assembly elections, he admitted that it was an idea they were considering, as “that seems to be the only way to make people and the government hear us.” But for now, “we will vote whoever supports all our demands.”
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:03 PM   #10
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Again from The Hindu


The All-India Ulama & Mashaikh Board (AIUMB), a Sufi Islamic branch claiming to represent 80 per cent of Indian Sunni Muslims, has come out strongly against hardline Wahabism, holding the ideology responsible for radicalisation of young Indian Muslims. The AIUMB counts itself among the significant Sufi Khanquahs in India, among them Ajmer Shareef and Dargah Hazrat Nizamuddin Auliya.

“Wahabi-influenced terrorism has taken a section of Indian Muslim youth in its grip,” said Maulana Syed Mohd Ashraf Kachochavi, AIUMB general secretary at a press conference here. He said the AIUMB would hold a Muslim Maha Panchayat at Moradabad (on October 16) from where a call would be given to the masses to rescue Islam and Muslims from the clutches of Wahabi extremism which was sustained largely by (Saudi) petro-dollars. “Peace-loving Sufi Muslims are in a huge majority in this country but regrettably the major Islamic institutions, including the Waqf Boards and the Madrasas, are under the control of cash-rich organisations practising hardline ideologies. We want to reclaim Islam from these elements and turn our youth away from the path of extremism and towards harmony and co-existence,” the Maulana said. “The Wahabi hardliners are spending billions of dollars to hurt the democratic and secular fabric of this country built over centuries through peaceful activities of the Sufi saints.”
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:50 AM   #11
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who is Maulana Syed Mohd Ashraf Kachochavi?
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:16 AM   #12
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Your post also made me think of something. Why are they holding an anti-Wahhabi conference? To appease the Hindus? Why aren't they holding an anti-Hindu conference if their intentions are sincerely for the sake of Islam? You don't see Wahhabis holding anti-Sufi conferences.
Remember the massacre at taif by any chance
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #13
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Remember the massacre at taif by any chance


And what does that have to do with Sufis and Salafis, besides the wild, unsourced narratives that exist? Furthermore, this is India we're talking about. Last I checked, the only massacre to have significantly affected Muslims in India in recent history was the massacre that led to the destruction of the Babri masjid by Hindus, killing over 2,000 Muslims. Where is the anti-Hindu conference?
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