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Its a documentary compiled by me....plz have a look..Regards..

Part 1 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1lYpOdQvsY

Part 2 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwFijVrIbc

Part 3 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fcfz_FbYwU

Part 4 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W76C2r0Tng

Part 5 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAMZChOqSs

Part 6 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmeogTic81w

Part 7 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPA1DDdbzmE

Part 8 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGPYtXQkLI

Part 9 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnm80q-ewGQ

Part 10 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gf012-TzAY

[MichaelfromSpace]

errm... did you even watch the third part? its insane. apparently prince william is the anti christ.

also i never understood the rationale of shk imran hossein... he said one day like a year = 1000 years, 1 day like a month = 83 years, 1 day liek a week, 19 years... which equals 1102 years but if the time of the dajjal started in the prophets time, then all this should have happened 327 years ago because we are in 1429 now

[Hetgvwic]

It is clear from the descriptions given in various ahadith, that before the physical appearance of Dajjal from the island on which he is currently chained, the support system that will follow him will already be established. This system has various components, the leading ones which include the capitalist banking houses, One-World internationalist organizations, the masonic-cabbalistic groups, New Age religions, etc.

We must safeguard our Deen, because the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said one of the signs of Yawm al-Qiyama will be that the Muslims will neglect to mention Dajjal or the End Times. This is why it is important for the Muslims to read descriptions of the Dajjalian system.

I would personally recommend, among other works, Signs of the Last Days by Al-Hafidh Ibn Kathir (rahimahullah) as well as the books of brother Ahmad Thomson, like Dajjal - The King who has no clothes and The Next World Order. Although I have a few minor disagreements with some of his conclusions, I would also recommend the letters of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi, rahimahullah. Wa Allahu A'lam.

[iroxmxinau]

Please read this post throughly, with care, and in particular pay close attention to the obvious surface meaning of each hadith cited.

One stated that the Dajjal is currently chained on an Island, I say prove that he is currently chained in an Island, now.

This can not be proven and it is not correct to say.

There are misunderstandings and misreading of the narration of Tarim al-Dari. He encountered the dajjal and al-jasassa on an Island and was told that "soon" such a one would be permitted to leave that place. Understandable in that these matters concern the ghaib and our discursive reasoning has to tread with care. The 'aql is a matter of binding and unbinding things, the truth was given to us by Allah ta'ala and it is in front of our eyes.

Understand that I too had this misconception until Frederick Abu Abdullah, a very kind brother and da'i active on Paltalk, cleared the fog from my eyes and shared with me whatr Allah ta'ala had caused his 'aql to compass round these matters. They are clear, and before our eyes, implicit in the nass and sometimes explicit.

However this can be stated with near yaqin: He is not "confined" to an Island in chains today and Allah knows best.

He was free to act in the time of Nabi (as) and was known in Madina and, wa'llahi, better men that you and I and anyone alive on this earth today have sworn to their lord that the Dajjal was a certain one in Madina.

Whether his physical body is somehow chained but he could act with freedom through other modalities (such as "sorcery" - sihr, or intermediaries like the djinn, or some sort of projection of other modalities of his being such as Yogis, sorcerers, and even others have been observed e.g. bi-location), or whether his physical body is and was free to act, and his being chained up was simply a matter that quickly ended, and through use of his direct physical strength as well as other modalities had the ability to act on a wider level than we would understand, these things we can not know.

But he is not helplessly chained on some island in the Mediterranean.

Has anyone considered the possibility (unverifiable speculation on my part) that the Island meeting spoken of in some ahadith may not have been physical per se, but rather could be of a nature in "Hurqalya" and barzakhi in nature?

In any case consider the following.

There lived in Madina at the time of the Tabien a man named Abdullah ibn Sayyad. Prior to islam his name was Sa'f ibn Sayyad, or Sa'ad ibn Sayyad.

This man, though he embraced Islam, displayed certain peculiarities of behavior that caused the LEADING Sahaba to swear to their graves that such a one was the masish al-dajjal.

That why later scholars say this is not the case, would these scholars stand face to face with Ibn Umar (ra) and say "you were incorrect, he was only a "lesser" dajjal" when Ibn Umar, and Umar ibn al-khattab (radillahu 'anhum 'ajmaeen) SWORE that he was?

Rasulullah (saws) was given ghaibi knowledge of these matters up until yawm al-qiyama, and he did NOT contradict certain close sahaba who swore of a certain such and such being the dajjal.

Moreover this certain such and such displayed traits and all but hinted to the reality of his being in such a blatant manner that such a conclusion is inescapable?

"Mohammad ibn Munkadir said: "I saw Jabir ibn 'Abd Allah swearing by Allah
that Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal, so I asked him, 'Do you swear by Allah?'
He said, 'I heard 'Omar swear to that effect in the presence of the
Prophet, and the Prophet did not disapprove of it.'"

The Prophet (saws) was given knowledge of generalities as well as particulars of many things, if Ibn Sayyad was NOT the dajjal, Rasulullah (saws) would have disapproved of Umar's statement.

IF JABIR IBN ABDULLAH (RA) SWORE BY ALLAH THAT IBN SAYYAD WAS THE DAJJAL, THEN BY ALLAH YOU AND I CAN SWEAR THE SAME AND NONE FAULT US IN THIS, EVEN THE ULEMA BECAUSE IMPLICIT IN THIS THEY WOULD HAVE TO FAULT THE BEST OF THE UMMAH.

The dajjal is a disimulator, a liar, he traffics in falsehood as an essential part of his function, it is his vocation, his job. He lies, hence he is the dajjal. By definition. Take this narration:

"Ibn Sayyad travelled between Makkah and Madinah with Abu Sa'id, and
complained to him about the way that people were saying that he was the
Dajjal. Then he said to Abu Sa'id, "Did not the Prophet say that the
Dajjal would not enter Madinah? I was born there. Did not he say that he
would not have any children? - I have children. Did not he say that he
would be a Kafir? - I have embraced Islam. "

HE CONTINUES..
"..Of all the people, I know the most about him: I know where he is now. If I were given the opportunity to
be in his place, I would not resent it.'" (Bukhari, Muslim)

This narration from Muslim of the same incident is more clear in its wording:

"...O Companions of Muhammad, that you take me as Dajjal? Has Allah's Apostle
(SAWS) not said that he would be a Jew whereas I am a Muslim And he also said
that he would not have children, whereas I have children And he also said: verily,
Allah has prohibited him to enter Mecca whereas I have performed Pilgrimage..."

IN THIS Narration Abu Said (ra) states "....and he went on saying this that I was about to be impressed by his talk.."

However Ibn Sayyad then said something to him strange:

" I know where he (Dajjal) is and I know his father and his mother, and it was said to him: Won't you feel pleased if you would be the same person?
Thereupon he said: If this offer is made to me, I would not resent that. (Muslim, 41, 6995)

HERE IS A MAN WHO CLAIMS TO BE A MUSLIM speaking with a Sahabi with whom he is traveling stating that he KNOWS the MOST about the dajjal (a matter known to the Nabi (saws) by wahi - and to Hudayfa and others by being thus informed by the Prophet (saws) - so whence comes Ibn Sayyad's knowledge?)

He is stating that he knows where he is, now, now being in the present and that given the opportunity to be in his place he would not resent it. Ibn Sayyad wouldn't resent being chained up in an island in the middle of the mediteranian? Really? He wouldn't resent being the chief of Shayateen min al-Nas ? In spite of saying "..Did not he say that he
would be a Kafir? - I have embraced Islam..."

What he just said about the dajjal almost put him into kufr right there, but a clever one with words he is. These are word games, games, he plays with words.

The semantics here are interesting as well, note with care that even here HE DID NOT INVALIDATE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIS BEING THE DAJJAL - it was sophistry from his lips, he did not clearly say "I am not the dajjal, here is why.." and even if he did the Dajjal is a liar. He simply complained that people called him the dajjal, listed demostrable observable reasons why they shouldn't make this claim, and then followed it up with a statement indicating his intimate knowledge of the Dajjal

"..Of all the people, I know the most about Kamal, for I know where he is now, and if I were given the opportunity to be in Kamal's place, I would not resent it.'"

Of course not, for I am Kamal. This is double-talk.

Ibn Sayyad was telling the bloody truth right between his lips.

Shall we examine more aboout the reality of Ibn Sayyad, beyond appearances? Remember that Sihr - whatever its methodology is - is a matter of apperances, illusion,

"Ibn 'Umar met Ibn Sayyad on some of the paths of Medina and he said to him a word which
enraged him and he was so much swollen with anger that the way was blocked. "

Examine this with care, a man, on a path, who when angered SWELLED in his physical form so that
the path was blocked?

"..Ibn 'Umar went to Hafsa and informed her about this. Thereupon she said: May Allah have mercy
upon you, why did you incite Ibn Sayyad in spite of the fact that you knew it would be the extreme
anger which would make Dajjal appear in the world?"

Is this difficult to understand, Hafsa (RA) took Ibn Umar to task for inciting Ibn Sayyad for the precise
reason that extreme anger would be the nexus upon which the Dajjal would "appear" in the world?

He is already here, he just hasn't "appeared" in the function of the Masih al-Dajjal. This is a station and
a title describing his function, the guy isn't litteraly named the Dajjal, Dajjal is who he is because of what he
does, and being al-Masih al-Dajjal - the false mesiah - is a specific function. Just as George Bush is the President,
Ibn Sayyad is the Masih al-Dajjal. George Bush wasn't the President before innaguration, the Masih al-Dajjal isn't
such until his going out in that manner.

Another narration:

"Ibn 'Umar said: 'I met Ibn Sayyad twice and said to one of his friends: 'You say that (the Dajjal) is he'.
He replied: 'By Allah, it is not so'.
Whereupon I said: 'You have not told me the truth; by Allah some of you informed me that he would not
die until he would have the largest number of offspring and huge wealth and is this he about whom this
is thought?'

Then Ibn Sayyad talked to us, I then departed and met him again for the second time and his eye was swollen.
I said: 'What has happened to your eye?'
He said: 'I do not know.'
I said: 'This (eye) is in your head and you do not know how it came about?'
He replied: 'If Allah so wills he can create the same (eye) effect in your staff.'
He then produced a sound like the braying of an ass. Some of my companions thought that I had struck him with
the staff as the staff lay in pieces, but by Allah, I was not conscious (of having struck him).

He then came to the Mother of the Faithful (Hafsa) and narrated the account to her, following which she said:
'What concern do you have with him? Don't you know that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said that the
first thing that would (make him) come out before the public would be through the incitement of his anger?'"


Wa'llahi Ibn Sayyad was the dajjal, in a way and mode that only Allah is aware of, and the fitnah of this man vexed the Ummah from the beginning and will vex the Ummah until its later days. And this concern is of GREAT import to us all.

He "walks" among us, in a manner that only Allah knows best. But be assured that he "walks" among us, talks among us, and acts with a near impunity aided by his presence being shrouded in the manner that Allah wills to let continue.

And as in the beginning of the community so to in the later part, he creates fitnah and is a perpetual trial for us all, may Allah save us.

[markshome23]

There is a hadith which states that dajjal would not be able to set foot in Madina and mecca.

[iroxmxinau]

Wa alaikum asalam.

And Jabir ibn 'Abd Allah, Abdullah Ibn Umar, Umar ibn al-Khattab, Abu Said al-Khudri, and Hafsa were all aware of that Hadith.

... And ?

In fact Ibn Sayyad himself quoted that Hadith to support his claim that he was not the dajjal. And yet four out of the five individuals above swore that he was the dajjal as long as they lived.

To quote two men far better than I, or any of us here alive today:

"I said: He ( Ibn Sayyad) died."

"He said: Let him die."

"I said: He accepted Islam. "

"He said: Let him accept Islam. "

"I said: He entered Medina. "

"He said: Let him enter Medina."

I do not have the Arabic but I believe that the person protesting is Nafi speaking to Ibn Salamah when Ibn Salamah clamed that the chained Dajjal was Ibn Sayyad, or it was Jabir himself.

Perhaps a brother who has the Sunan in Arabic can read out the chain of narration. In any case KEEP IN MIND THE WORDS:

"I said: He entered Medina. "
"He said: Let him enter Medina."

This narration is interesting: "Nafi' told that Abdullah ibn Umar used to say: "I swear by Allah that I do not doubt that Antichrist is Ibn Sayyad."

Ibn Sayyad is the being who would be the Masih al-Dajjal and who would be prevented from entering Madina in the future, and Allah knows best..

There is a narration that I allude to above that the Dajjal on the Island WAS Ibn Sayyad.

Would you stand in front of Umar Ibn al-Khattab while he was swearing by Allah that Ibn Sayyad was the dajjal, and contradict him?

"Amir al-Muminin, didn't you hear the hadith that said the dajjal couldn't enter Madina?"

The hadith could be completely correct in its literal meaning and still not invalidate Ibn Sayyad's being the dajjal.

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: The Messenger of Allah (SAWS)
said one day from the pulpit:
"When some people were sailing in the sea, their food was finished. An island appeared to them. They went out seeking bread. They were met by the Jassasah. I (Ibn Abdullah) said to Abu Salamah: "What is the Jassasah?"
He replied: "A woman trailing the hair of her skin and of her head.
She said: In this castle..."

THIS is the narration of the Sea and Tamim where he met the Dajjal chained. Up. Now read the rest of the Hadith closely, Jabir narrates the rest of the Hadith then

"He asked about the palm-trees of Baysan and the spring of Zughar. He said: "He is the Antichrist".
Ibn Salamah said to me: "There is something more in this Hadith, which I could not remember." .. Jabir testified that it was he who was Ibn Sayyad.

I said: He (that is Ibn Sayyad) died. He (Jabir) said: Let him die. I said: He accepted Islam. He said: Let him accept Islam. I said: He entered Medina. He said: Let him enter Medina.

There have been debates among the Ulema on this point: regarding Ibn Sayyad’s case, some attempted a synthesis of views.

Ibn Hajar tried to reconcile the views in the following manner, by asserting that the best way in which we may reconcile what is said in the Hadith of Tamim al-Dari and the view that Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal is to say that the Masih al-Dajjal was the exact personage whom Tamim al-Dari saw chained up on the Island, but that the personage of Ibn Sayyad was a shaytan from the Jinn, who simply appeared in the image of the Dajjal at that time, until he went to Isfahan, where he hid with his group (qareen), until the appointed time comes when Allah will decree that he should emerge.

This I alluded to when I spoke of "certain modalities". Sihr being the cause of Ibn Sayyad's apperance. In this sense he is a force of the Dajjal and a modality of his being, as when the king sends a messenger what that messenger delivers is the King's message and we say "The King communicated to so and so" but through the intermediary of a messenger.

Imam al-Bukhari, however, instead of attempting reconciliation simply narrated the Hadith of Jabir from ‘Umar, in the belief that it was more authentic, and chose not to narrate the Hadith of Fatima bint Qays about the story of Tamim. This can be found in Fath al-Bari, 13/328.

So if IMAM BUKHARI gave precidence to Jabir's hadith where he swore Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal - and chose not to narrate the one of Tamim al-Dari and the shipwreck narrative of the Island, what does this say?

Jabir and Ibn Umar said Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal.

Centuries later Ibn Kathir says "that is not correct, he was simply a lesser Dajjal".

Now I ask you, was Umar Ibn al-Khattab in error or was Ibn Kathir?

Nafi' narrates that Ibn Umar used to say: "I swear by Allah that I do not doubt that al-Dajjal is Ibn Sayyad." (Abu Dawud's sunan)


The problem is that we are often a straight people, who try to mean what we say, and to whom convoluted lies are not familiar - and we do not often look into the convoluted possibilities behind language.

The Masih al-dajjal will not enter Madina.
Ibn Sayyad did enter Madiana, and even after that the best of the Ummah STILL swore he was the Dajjal.

This indicates that we perhaps are misunderstanding that hadith.

The President of the USA will not enter such and such, however the person who would eventually become the president of the USA may well have entered such and such BEFORE his term as president.

The Masih al-Dajjal, when he comes out as the Masih al-Dajjal, will not enter Madina and would be prevented.

This Hadith does not state that Ibn Sayyad prior to his "coming out to the people' as the dajjal, to quote Hafsa, would or would not be able to enter Madina, the hadith deals with future events.

[Beragagnu]

I beleive there is another hadith about ibn sayyad (Allah forgive me if I add or take away because i am reciting this hadith from memory))

When ibn Sayyad was at the age of shahadah Rasoolullah (SAW) and Hazarat Umar (RA) were walking past him when Rasooli Akram (SAW) stopped and put his hand on ibn sayyads head and said "DO you testify that there is no god but Allah and that I am his searvant and Messenger". Ibn Sayyad then said " I testify that you are the messenger of illiterates." Upon hearing this Hazarat Umar drew his sword and asked permission to chop off his head.

Rasoolullah(SAW) said "No"
Umar (RA) replied "but he is the dajjal"
Rasoolullah(SAW) then said "if you kill him and he is not the Dajjal it will be useless, and if he is the Dajjal only Nabi Isa (AS) can kill him and you have no power over him."

[Abarricoss]

It is clear from the descriptions given in various ahadith, that before the physical appearance of Dajjal from the island on which he is currently chained, the support system that will follow him will already be established. This system has various components, the leading ones which include the capitalist banking houses, One-World internationalist organizations, the masonic-cabbalistic groups, New Age religions, etc.

We must safeguard our Deen, because the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said one of the signs of Yawm al-Qiyama will be that the Muslims will neglect to mention Dajjal or the End Times. This is why it is important for the Muslims to read descriptions of the Dajjalian system.

I would personally recommend, among other works, Signs of the Last Days by Al-Hafidh Ibn Kathir (rahimahullah) as well as the books of brother Ahmad Thomson, like Dajjal - The King who has no clothes and The Next World Order. Although I have a few minor disagreements with some of his conclusions, I would also recommend the letters of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi, rahimahullah. Wa Allahu A'lam.

Asalaamualaykum.

I do find the book Dajjal by Ahmed Thomson very enlightening indeed.

[iroxmxinau]

I have the book by Sidi Ahmed Thomson, and found it very interesting and a good wake up call. The pereniallist writer, Charles Upton, has an even more penitrating book called "The System of the Antichrist" which, while might be found problematic by some, has a wealth of information on the occult and inward aspects of this Dajjal system.


With that stated, as above, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT IN UNDERSTANDING THE DAJJAL SYSTEM - I assert that the Dajjal is not helplessly chained somewhere for Ibn Sayyad has been stated to be the dajjal by so many of the greatest of the Sahaba, that it is impossible to fully reconcile this.

In the Sunan of Abu Daud one of the narrations of the Tamim al-Dari narriatve where the dajjal was chained up in an Island, is followed by the narrator asserting that the one who was chained up WAS Ibn Sayyad. This can be found in the kitab al fitan. This only seems like a paradox to us but I say "We hear and we obey".

The 'aql can not compass such things fully, be open, and accept the truth testified by our ancient forebearers.

Ali (kw), Umar (ra), Jabir ibn Abdullah (ra), Abdullah Ibn Umar (ra) all testified that Ibn Sayyad, was the dajjal.

There is a one-eyed man who is king in the land of the blind, remember Nizam al-kufr wahida, the System of Kufr is one. There is a man, who has been alive for a very long time, much like an inversion of the role of Khidr (as), this man was chained in an Island in a mode we know not, while those who knew of this also asserted that he was there and present in the community of Madina and walked among them.

ONCE WE UNDERSTAND THIS the mystery of lesser dajjals, Ghulam Ahmed, and other cursed souls who have plagued us, comes more clear. The mystery behind the Nizam al-Dajjal - his system, interlocking finances and manipulation and misguidance, it is like a lens.

It is important not to go off the deep end in paranoia, but when you see it you can only say "Subhanullah" and be steadfast.

I do recommend Sidi Ahmed Thomson's book as well as Sidi Charles Upton's. Take them both, see what is confirmed in the Quran and Sunnah, and what is not confirmed, but not opposed, suspend judgment and simply observe.


And Allah knows best.

[sam]

where i will get this book in pdf formate for free ?

[doxinwasido]

I dont know about the book that you asked about but the website in my signatures has a lot of islamic ebooks. U may find something relevant there.