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Old 09-04-2011, 01:55 AM   #21
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Yes, I notices some brothers are very arrogant lol.
No names ofcourse, but let`s all us fix that!
I was actually thinking of leaving SF, but after seeing this Ill stick around for longer :P
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:16 AM   #22
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If you all make me a mod I will ban all troublemakers and close-down all controversial threads
If you ask for power, then people will blame you for your mistakes. If you are given power, then people might make excuses for you.

I hope by the above you recall a quote.
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:36 AM   #23
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“If a friend among your friends errs, make seventy excuses for them. If your hearts are unable to do this, then know that the shortcoming is in your own selves.”

[Imam Bayhaqi, Shu`ab al-Iman, 7.522]
From the Wisdom of Abu Hanifah by Azhar Academy:

This isn't cut and paste, i just typed it all so please read it haha!

Muhammed bin Mukatil relates taht a man approached Imam Abu Hanifa and asked him:
"What is your opinion regarding a person who does not hope for Jannat, who doesn't fear Allah swt and is not afraid of the fire of hell. He eats meat of animals not slaughtered according to religious requirements and observes prayers without Ruku and Sujud and testifies to what he has not witnessed. He dislikes Haq and loves Fitna?"

The students of Imam Abu Hanifa replied:
"This persons situation is difficult, problematic and hard to solve."

In another version it is narrated that they replied:
"This person is very bad and these are characteristics are of a Kafir"

Imam Abu Hanifa replied:
"This persons situation is not difficult and these are not properties of a Kafir, as this is a person who doesn't wish or hope for jannat but wishes and looks forward to meeting Allah swt. He fears Allah swt and not the fire of hell (obviously he who fears Allah swt will refrain from all that is prohubited and do what is asked of him and thus will not need to fear Hell as he will be going into Jannat - Inshallah). he doesn't fear injustice and unfairness from Allah swt in His rule. He eats fish and crust[aceans?] (remember those do not have to be slaughtered). He reads salatul jannaza in which there is no ruku or sujud. He testifies that there is only One Allah swt (though he has not seen Him) and Muhammed sws is His Messenger. He dislikes haq which is death as it is certain. he loves his children, money, wealth and possessions as they are fitna.

After hearing this remarkable answer, the questioner stood up and kissed Imam Abu Hanifa's head and said:
"I bear witness that you are a receptacle for knowledge."

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Old 09-09-2011, 01:26 AM   #24
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Islam and Ego: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjwtmjbOKE
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:56 AM   #25
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agreed, need t leave the debates.

There are boundries though. I dont think we should accept things like claiming other prophets after teh porphet muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalam or cursing sahaba and accusing our mother of zina (aoudhu billah).

Someone was abusing ayesha and was asked "arent you abusing your mother"? To which he rpelied "she isnt my mother".

Ayesha was told about this and she said "he is correct. Im the mother of the believers. Not the mother of the disbelievers"
she was a wonderful human being. whenever i read about her and Hazrat Maryam (AS) my respect always increases.i almost always stop and read whatever is narrated about them. i wish i could read more on Hazrat fatima (ra), Hazrat Asiya (AS) and HazratKhadija (ra). such great characters and such strong imaan!
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:25 PM   #26
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Watch this ...

Darn! After watching this I can't fight with you any more.
Wassalam

PS: It would have been better if the narration had a slower pace-but it is still alright.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:11 PM   #27
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One can start reading from here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post657856
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:43 PM   #28
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The following Ayat is the self-evaluation...Obligatory on each and every individual..



"Invite (all) to the way of the Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious:

for thy Lord knoweth, best who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance."

(The Quran 16.125).
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:59 PM   #29
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aoa,
but 31st dec was muhamamd bin qasim (ra)'s birthday not death anniversary
please correct me if im wrong in sha Allah

You are right brother.
Please unquote me.
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:27 PM   #30
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You are right brother.
Please unquote me.
lulz.its done : )
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:05 AM   #31
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I am really pleased to find someone else who feels the same way. The kafirs have made us become obsessed with who follows what sect and fighting among ourselves instead of trying to create an ummah that helps each other no matter what 'sect' they follow. Is Allah not the ultimate judge of us all and unto him we shall return. I am not saying that people should remain ignorant but debate is good. But remember we are all sisters and brothers in Islam and we should unite and stand strong in this time of great fitnah instead of fighting over who is right.
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