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Old 12-24-2011, 03:06 AM   #1
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My husband lives and works in another country and I work and bring up our children on my own. I get the shopping, visit my mother, take the kids to school and back and look after the house. Can I go to the mosque or other places without my husbands permission? can anyone help me please?
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:44 AM   #2
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NO! you have to ask him........ something came to my mind.....in prophets SAW time......more or less....there was a woman who loved on the top floor with her husband and her dad on the bottom......her husband was gone somehwere so her father got sick, she asked permission to Prophet saw etcccccc
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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You might try to get a blanket consent to go to certain places at certain times, such as he says you are always allowed to go grocery shopping on Mondays, and to the Mosque for prayers and khutba. This will make it easier, but still ask specific permission for things you have to do less often, like clothes shopping.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:09 PM   #4
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Salam

My husband lives and works in another country and I work and bring up our children on my own. I get the shopping, visit my mother, take the kids to school and back and look after the house. Can I go to the mosque or other places without my husbands permission? can anyone help me please?
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but sister why did you write brother in gender?
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:30 PM   #5
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Try to get your husband to come back and live with you.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:09 AM   #6
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I cannot get him to come back he is working there. Also he would not want me to go to the mosque and I thought that he is not allowed to stop me.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:13 AM   #7
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Sorry I thought it said sister also I am maliki not hanafi but respect any reply with evidence from the quran or sunnah
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:41 AM   #8
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I cannot get him to come back he is working there. Also he would not want me to go to the mosque and I thought that he is not allowed to stop me.


It is not from the obligations of Islam for women to go to mosques so he is allowed to stop you from going to the masajid. And you should still try to get him to come back and find a job where you are or to move your family to where he is working - unless you have other mahram men with you, such as your brother or father, to help you out.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:56 AM   #9
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Sorry I thought it said sister also I am maliki not hanafi but respect any reply with evidence from the quran or sunnah
read my reply ????????????????????????/// wow. i just told u .......... you need his permission
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:02 AM   #10
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Salam. With respect there is a hadith saying that the prophet SAW said that if your wives ask you to go to the mosque do not deny them. If my intentions are to be close to others who are muslim as I am on my own and it weakens my faith surely that is a good reason.
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:10 AM   #11
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Salam. With respect there is a hadith saying that the prophet SAW said that if your wives ask you to go to the mosque do not deny them. If my intentions are to be close to others who are muslim as I am on my own and it weakens my faith surely that is a good reason.


Please quote the hadeeth here.
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:26 AM   #12
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Narrated by Salim bin 'Abdullah: My father said, "The Prophet said, 'If the wife of any one of you asks permission (to go to the mosque) do not forbid her.'" (Bukhari, 1:833)
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:27 AM   #13
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Narrated Ibn Umar:
One of the wives of Umar (bin Al-Khattab) used to offer the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayer in congregation in the Mosque. She was asked why she had come out for the prayer as she knew that Umar disliked it, and he has great ghaira (self-respect). She replied, "What prevents him from stopping me from this act?" The other replied, "The statement of Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) : 'Do not stop Allah's women-slave from going to Allah s Mosques' prevents him." Sahih Bukhari

Additionally women are encouraged to attend Eid prayers including those on their menses.

I am not expecting to be able to go to the mosque I just know that I am allowed and no-one is allowed to make something haraam that is halaal.

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Old 12-26-2011, 03:34 AM   #14
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The simple understanding of the hadeeth is NOT that you're free to go to the mosque without asking your husband's permission. It's that if you ask him if you may do so and if he refuses, he is committing a sin. That still does not give you permission to disobey your husband, especially if he is not stopping you from something that is a necessity of deen.

'Umar disliked his wife going to the masjid but he yielded and allowed her when he heard that qawl from Rasoolullah . If you wish to go to the mosque, present your husband with this qawl and see what he says.

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Old 12-26-2011, 03:50 AM   #15
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With respect brother you stated that my husband is allowed to stop me from going to the mosque in an earlier post you are now conceding that I am correct although I know I have to ask permission he is not allowed to deny me. How many women do not question or know their rights and too many are eager to hide it from them. I am sorry brother but had I not any knowledge at all I would have followed your advice and not even asked. All that I am trying to find out is if he resides in another country am I allowed to go out? I have blanket permission for work, shopping, visiting relatives etc just not the mosque. I did explain that my deen is weak and I wish to go to be with others and strengthen my faith, something that i could do when i was single as I am a revert. Salam
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Old 12-26-2011, 04:29 AM   #16
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With respect brother you stated that my husband is allowed to stop me from going to the mosque in an earlier post you are now conceding that I am correct although I know I have to ask permission he is not allowed to deny me. How many women do not question or know their rights and too many are eager to hide it from them. I am sorry brother but had I not any knowledge at all I would have followed your advice and not even asked. All that I am trying to find out is if he resides in another country am I allowed to go out? I have blanket permission for work, shopping, visiting relatives etc just not the mosque. I did explain that my deen is weak and I wish to go to be with others and strengthen my faith, something that i could do when i was single as I am a revert. Salam


Please read carefully. I have not said that you are allowed to go to the masjid if your husband forbids it. If he forbids it, he is committing a sin, but that still does not give you the right to go to the masjid - if you do, it would be sinful on your part. For example, if a woman's husband forbids her from reading tahajjud, he will be sinful, but she will have to not pray tahajjud. One of the rights that the husband has over his wife involve asking permission to perform nafl fasts and nafl salah. If a husband forbids his wife from performing the sunnah ibaadaat, he is going to be held accountable and the wife will get the equivalent reward for having the correct intentions. If the wife disobeys him, she is going to be held accountable for disobedience.

So, to sum up, if your husband has forbidden you from going to the masjid or if you haven't asked permission, then you should not go to the masjid. You should ask permission as he has already given you permission to go out for other reasons; he'll oblige. What's the harm in having him grant you a general permission to go to the masjid? If he forbids you, you should not disobey but educate him with the ahadeeth that you have presented to me so that he changes his mind.
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:54 AM   #17
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A woman is equal in Islam. She can do as she pleases as long as she has the right intention..well thats what i think..
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:04 AM   #18
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A woman is equal in Islam. She can do as she pleases as long as she has the right intention..well thats what i think..


It doesn't really matter what you think since your opinion could be right or wrong and hence is not objective truth. If God commands us to do something, then we must do it and if He commands us to refrain from something, then we must refrain from it (whether we understand the wisdom behind the command or not and whether we like the command or not) because Islam is submitting to the Will of God

So if it is proven that God forbids a woman to leave her home without her husband's permission, then you must submit to His Will whether you like it or not for He is the Creator and must be obeyed.

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Old 12-26-2011, 08:07 AM   #19
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A woman is equal in Islam. She can do as she pleases as long as she has the right intention..well thats what i think..


In front of Allah both Women and Men are equal. But Allah have set for them different roles in society in this world.

P.s. Even if the intention is right, a wrong deed is indeed a wrong deed.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:21 AM   #20
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In front of Allah both Women and Men are equal. But Allah have set for them different roles in society in this world.

P.s. Even if the intention is right, a wrong deed is indeed a wrong deed.
very true. I am a firm believer that men and women are equal. I will always remain equal even when i get married. I was going to marry this man who wanted me to wear the veil, not work and sit at home. I am more than this. I have talent and i will not let a man lock that up and let me do nothing. My beliefs and independence are important to me.
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