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**xyznicks** · 11-21-2011, 02:27 PM

I would like to know what is the reaction in Bangladesh to the trial of Dilwar Hussain Saidi. Also I have heard the situation is very bad in Bangladesh for islamically inclined people with this Hasina lady.

**electmobile** · 11-21-2011, 04:53 PM

Brother the situation in Bangladesh is very bad, from my observation. The present Government has declared Bangladesh to be a secular country. In october 2010 through the Governments challenge of the the constitution of 1979 and the fifth amendment, the supreme court ruled that Bangladesh is now a secular State. The Supreme Court also reinstated a ban on islamic parties.

**xyznicks** · 11-21-2011, 05:01 PM

I met a bangladeshi recently who is a practicing person. He told me the same story. He was actually very concerned about going to the airport etc. He said that the situation in Dakkah is very bad. Any sort of large ulema gathering is causing major problems and people are very scared. What is the motive behind the supreme judges decision to call towards secularism and reinstate a ban on islamic parties?

**seperalem** · 11-21-2011, 05:03 PM

I would like to know what is the reaction in Bangladesh to the trial of Dilwar Hussain Saidi. Also I have heard the situation is very bad in Bangladesh for islamically inclined people with this Hasina lady.

Dilwar Hussain Saidi has attached himself with Jamat-e-Islami which is a controversial party . Deoband oriented Islamic groups , typically , avoid this group.

**electmobile** · 11-21-2011, 05:17 PM

It was the Government that filed the case against the fifth amendment. The judges ruled in favour of secularism. Do not know why perhaps the judges were supporters of the Government/the ruling party.

**electmobile** · 11-21-2011, 05:28 PM

One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi. I have also observed deobandi insitutions introducing maududi thought into the curriculum, just my observation.

**Fdmnrnba** · 11-21-2011, 10:35 PM

Assalamu Alaikum,

Halaqaat held by non-political groups such as the TJ are allowed and are even encouraged if I am honest. So something like the Ijtema in Tongi won't be banned inshaAllah I am pretty sure of that. Anything political e.g. Jamaat Islami or HT - the govt. will have a problem with that. HT was especially cracked down on really hard a couple of months back (they are banned now technically).

In terms of Dilwar Hussain Sayidi - Allah knows best - if he did what they accuse him of, then I pray for his (and mine) forgiveness - if not, may he get a just trial and a fast release. The whole affair (of house arresting Jamaat leaders) has led to some pretty bad publicity abroad.

Ever since the rajaakar incidents during the 1971 war for independence, religion has been looked upon with suspicion in many sectors of the society. And of course, in a bid to attract foreign investment (and other reasons), the govt. is trying to portray the country as secular. The recent effort to remove "Bismillahi Ar-Rahman Ar-Rahim" from the constitution is an example.

**twiffatticy** · 11-21-2011, 10:41 PM

One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi.

thats a real surprise

**beethyday** · 11-22-2011, 06:10 AM

One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi. I have also observed deobandi insitutions introducing maududi thought into the curriculum, just my observation.

I don't think that's true. Most deobandis from Bangladesh vehemently oppose Maududi and anything affiliated to him.

**electmobile** · 11-22-2011, 03:50 PM

I don't think that's true. Most deobandis from Bangladesh vehemently oppose Maududi and anything affiliated to him.

Yes, Most do oppose Maududi. From my observation I know some who have affiliate with them. There are some who join them and then disassociate with them afterwards. Just my observations.

**AllAdobeOEMSoftDownload** · 12-29-2011, 09:02 PM

Can someone tell me what the deal is on this issue? I don't follow Bengali politics, but is Saidi really guilty of the allegations he is accused of? Or is it a case of political mud slinging? Also is he a 'sahih' shaykh as I'm aware he is part of the Jamati Islami that follows Maududi thought?

**anxpuna** · 12-29-2011, 09:16 PM

Can someone tell me what the deal is on this issue? I don't follow Bengali politics, but is Saidi really guilty of the allegations he is accused of? Or is it a case of political mud slinging? Also is he a 'sahih' shaykh as I'm aware he is part of the Jamati Islami that follows Maududi thought?

He is one of the central leaders of JI. I won't comment, but

post some informations about their activities. Judgement will be done by you.

**anxpuna** · 12-30-2011, 08:29 PM

Please read it thoroughly to know about JI's activities:

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countr...utfits/ics.htm

11-21-2011, 02:27 PM	#1
xyznicks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	Reaction to the trial of Dilwar Hussain Saidi I would like to know what is the reaction in Bangladesh to the trial of Dilwar Hussain Saidi. Also I have heard the situation is very bad in Bangladesh for islamically inclined people with this Hasina lady. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 04:53 PM	#2
electmobile Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Brother the situation in Bangladesh is very bad, from my observation. The present Government has declared Bangladesh to be a secular country. In october 2010 through the Governments challenge of the the constitution of 1979 and the fifth amendment, the supreme court ruled that Bangladesh is now a secular State. The Supreme Court also reinstated a ban on islamic parties. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 05:01 PM	#3
xyznicks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	I met a bangladeshi recently who is a practicing person. He told me the same story. He was actually very concerned about going to the airport etc. He said that the situation in Dakkah is very bad. Any sort of large ulema gathering is causing major problems and people are very scared. What is the motive behind the supreme judges decision to call towards secularism and reinstate a ban on islamic parties? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 05:03 PM	#4
seperalem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 360 Senior Member	I would like to know what is the reaction in Bangladesh to the trial of Dilwar Hussain Saidi. Also I have heard the situation is very bad in Bangladesh for islamically inclined people with this Hasina lady. Dilwar Hussain Saidi has attached himself with Jamat-e-Islami which is a controversial party . Deoband oriented Islamic groups , typically , avoid this group. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 05:17 PM	#5
electmobile Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	It was the Government that filed the case against the fifth amendment. The judges ruled in favour of secularism. Do not know why perhaps the judges were supporters of the Government/the ruling party. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 05:28 PM	#6
electmobile Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi. I have also observed deobandi insitutions introducing maududi thought into the curriculum, just my observation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-21-2011, 10:35 PM	#7
Fdmnrnba Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	Assalamu Alaikum, Halaqaat held by non-political groups such as the TJ are allowed and are even encouraged if I am honest. So something like the Ijtema in Tongi won't be banned inshaAllah I am pretty sure of that. Anything political e.g. Jamaat Islami or HT - the govt. will have a problem with that. HT was especially cracked down on really hard a couple of months back (they are banned now technically). In terms of Dilwar Hussain Sayidi - Allah knows best - if he did what they accuse him of, then I pray for his (and mine) forgiveness - if not, may he get a just trial and a fast release. The whole affair (of house arresting Jamaat leaders) has led to some pretty bad publicity abroad. Ever since the rajaakar incidents during the 1971 war for independence, religion has been looked upon with suspicion in many sectors of the society. And of course, in a bid to attract foreign investment (and other reasons), the govt. is trying to portray the country as secular. The recent effort to remove "Bismillahi Ar-Rahman Ar-Rahim" from the constitution is an example. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

11-21-2011, 10:41 PM	#8
twiffatticy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 641 Senior Member	One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi. thats a real surprise Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-22-2011, 06:10 AM	#9
beethyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	One thing that I noticed is that both here in UK and in Bangladesh is that those who study at deobandi institutions then start to affiliate with Jamate Islami/Maududi. I have also observed deobandi insitutions introducing maududi thought into the curriculum, just my observation. I don't think that's true. Most deobandis from Bangladesh vehemently oppose Maududi and anything affiliated to him. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-22-2011, 03:50 PM	#10
electmobile Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	I don't think that's true. Most deobandis from Bangladesh vehemently oppose Maududi and anything affiliated to him. Yes, Most do oppose Maududi. From my observation I know some who have affiliate with them. There are some who join them and then disassociate with them afterwards. Just my observations. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-29-2011, 09:02 PM	#11
AllAdobeOEMSoftDownload Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Can someone tell me what the deal is on this issue? I don't follow Bengali politics, but is Saidi really guilty of the allegations he is accused of? Or is it a case of political mud slinging? Also is he a 'sahih' shaykh as I'm aware he is part of the Jamati Islami that follows Maududi thought? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-29-2011, 09:16 PM	#12
anxpuna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	Can someone tell me what the deal is on this issue? I don't follow Bengali politics, but is Saidi really guilty of the allegations he is accused of? Or is it a case of political mud slinging? Also is he a 'sahih' shaykh as I'm aware he is part of the Jamati Islami that follows Maududi thought? He is one of the central leaders of JI. I won't comment, but post some informations about their activities. Judgement will be done by you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-30-2011, 08:29 PM	#13
anxpuna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	Please read it thoroughly to know about JI's activities: http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countr...utfits/ics.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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