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Old 12-28-2011, 04:28 AM   #1
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Default Smoking Tabacco and Marijuana?
I know Alchohol is haram obviously but what about hashish/marijuana and tabacco? I heard that smoking cigarettes/cigars and shisha is makruh...I think it is but not sure? Also, marijuana apparently has its advantages such as curing cancer and making someone feel closer to Allah so is that a bad thing?
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:25 AM   #2
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Asalaam 'Alaykum

Alcohol has clearly been made haraam as seen in the quran. These quranic ayats also mention being intoxicated. For example Surah Nisa Ayat 43 in which the words ' وَأَنتُم سُكَـٰرَىٰ ' i.e. being intoxicated are said. Drugs have similiar effects of intoxication as alcohol..some can say worse effects and so some scholars rule drugs under the same order for alcohol others would say its makrooh. The main harm of alcohol is the harms of being intoxicated and so any substance which creates the same effect would be harmfull to ones physical,mental and spiritual health. After death we will be accountable for what we have done in life including harming our bodies.

As for drugs being used for medicine thats a different story, which opens up the argument of using haraam/makrooh/Non-permissible things for medicine.

What exactly do you mean using drugs to feel closer to Allah?
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:45 AM   #3
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I know Alchohol is haram obviously but what about hashish/marijuana and tabacco? I heard that smoking cigarettes/cigars and shisha is makruh...I think it is but not sure? Also, marijuana apparently has its advantages such as curing cancer and making someone feel closer to Allah so is that a bad thing?


Marijuana does not cure cancer. Marijuana is sometimes prescribed medicinally as a pain killer in the US and other countries, even though there are alternatives. And no, it does not make someone feel closer to Allah . Only ibaadah and strengthening one's imaan can make someone closer to Allah . If non-Muslims take marijuana - and many do - do they become Muslims or are they better than Muslims who don't take marijuana? Of course not. There are some drugs that are even harder and more hallucinogenic, such as LSD but they most definitely do not make you closer to Allah .

Marijuana is a drug to alter one's mood. It also makes one hungry and paranoid.

Smoking tobacco, whether cigarettes, cigars, or sheesha/huqqah is considered haraam by Arab ulama since it is detrimental to both health and wealth. Since you're Yemeni, you're probably aware of qat as well, which is also considered haraam.

Scholars who don't consider it haraam but do consider it makrooh are usually from the Indian subcontinent.
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:45 AM   #4
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Marijuana does not cure cancer.

The supposed benefit of medical marijuana is that it dulls pain more effectively during last stages of chemotherapy than do other medicines.

Indulging needlessly in intoxicants is like indulging in other sins; they do not bring you closer to Allah, but Shaytan beautifies them for us, and sometimes we slip and fall headfirst into them. The thing to do is not to justify where you are currently lying down, but to remove yourself from that position and return to Allah, the Exalted... and surely, all of us are in need of that.
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:54 AM   #5
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non-khamr alcohol is permissable as long as it is not used in vain and not used in amounts that intoxicate right?

so shouldnt the ruling for marijuana be the same?

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...688bde180241d1
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:55 AM   #6
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Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah, well the thing here is that even if it wasn't bad for you and it makes you feel positive and happy and all that its still haram, because anything that
changes the way you think you cannot take unless for medical reasons or some reason that you need to take it or you will die like Marijuana but if your doing LSD or crack then of course
you cant do that for any reason.
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:09 AM   #7
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non-khamr alcohol is permissable as long as it is not used in vain and not used in amounts that intoxicate right?

so shouldnt the ruling for marijuana be the same?

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...688bde180241d1


The fatwa gives two conditions. If non-khamr alcohol is used as an intoxicant or used in vain (e.g. for entertainment), then it is also haraam. Marijuana is mostly used for entertainment and it alters one's mind. You don't add marijuana to food as a crucial ingredient but non-khamr alcohol is used a lot in the food industry without being intended as an intoxicant but for other purposes (e.g. as a carrier or for dilution).

Marijuana, on the other hand, is used exclusively to alter one's mind.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:00 AM   #8
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The fatwa gives two conditions. If non-khamr alcohol is used as an intoxicant or used in vain (e.g. for entertainment), then it is also haraam. Marijuana is mostly used for entertainment and it alters one's mind. You don't add marijuana to food as a crucial ingredient but non-khamr alcohol is used a lot in the food industry without being intended as an intoxicant but for other purposes (e.g. as a carrier or for dilution).

Marijuana, on the other hand, is used exclusively to alter one's mind.
Some people use it exclusively as a pain killer. Would it be lawful for this purpose?
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:15 AM   #9
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there is a hadith that say ALL intoxicants are haram, so why is an exemption given to non-khamr alchohol when taken in non-intoxicating amounts?


According to the Shari?ah, it is not permissible to use Marijuana. (Shaami vol.3 pg.239; HM Saeed)

Ummi Salma [Radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] has prohibit
ted every intoxicant and everything which causes weakness to the body. (Ahmad Hadith26513)

In Mirqaat, it is mentioned that once a person came to Cairo and requested the Ulama to provide proof for Marijuana being Haraam. A gathering of the Ulama was conducted in order to address the issue. Hafiz Zainud-deen al-Iraqi (RA) presented the aforementioned Hadith as the proof and this was accepted by those present.

Imaam ibn Taymiyah (RA) and Imaam Iraqi (RA) have mentioned that there is Ijmaa (consensus) that Marijuana is Haraam. (Awnul Ma?bood vol.6 pg.509; Darul Hadith)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

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Old 12-28-2011, 07:50 AM   #10
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Some people use it exclusively as a pain killer. Would it be lawful for this purpose?


Bro, there are hundreds of pain killers out there which do not alter the mental status. So I don't think marijuana is necessary.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:08 AM   #11
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Bro, there are hundreds of pain killers out there which do not alter the mental status. So I don't think marijuana is necessary.


i think its only the milder pain killers that do not alter the mental status? the stronger pain killers such as gas and air which women take in child birth, vallium, codeine, etc do change the mental status and many medicines do have warnings on them such as not to operate machinery or drive after taking them due to intoxicating effects.

anyway, according to the above hadith that i posted, shouldnt ALL intoxicants be haraam regardless if it is khamr or not? i am just confused with the inconsistencies in the various fatwas.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:22 AM   #12
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i think its only the milder pain killers that do not alter the mental status? the stronger pain killers such as gas and air which women take in child birth, vallium, codeine, etc do change the mental status and many medicines do have warnings on them such as not to operate machinery or drive after taking them due to intoxicating effects.


There are loads of newer drugs. In any case marijuana doesn't have to be an option.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:25 AM   #13
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There are loads of newer drugs. In any case marijuana doesn't have to be an option.
i only used marijuana as an example as it was part of the OP. but my confusion is in general. many medicinal drugs can and do intoxicate. so as per the hadith about all intoxicants being haram, shouldnt medicinal drugs also be haram?
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:33 AM   #14
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i only used marijuana as an example as it was part of the OP. but my confusion is in general. many medicinal drugs can and do intoxicate. so as per the hadith about all intoxicants being haram, shouldnt medicinal drugs also be haram?
I think its the 'need' that makes it halal. I think there is a fatwa on it on askimam.

For example 'ketamine' can be used for genuine reasons like surgical anesthesia. But some people use it as abuse drug too. I guess it becomes haram in the second case.

Edit: In case of Marijuana. The dose is arbitrary, the delivery system is not constant. Better and more efficient alternatives are available.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:49 AM   #15
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I have even heard of people abusing Panadol taking it by the handfuls, and not long ago I heard doctors being busted for selling large quantities of cough medicine to abusers.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:37 AM   #16
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I have even heard of people abusing Panadol taking it by the handfuls,


Panadol(Paracetamol) is used to commit suicide by many, but instead of a quicky they get a slow and very painful death.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:54 PM   #17
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We don't have Panadol here, but we have Tylenol (acetaminophen), which is also used to commit suicide by drastically exceeding the maximum allowed dosage. Tylenol is primarily used as an analgesic and an antipyretic.

Almost any drug that is easily available can lead to death or an extreme degradation of a person's quality of life.

Cough medicine, especially those with codeine, have the same effect as drinking alcohol.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:45 AM   #18
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There are statements saying baking soda cures cancer too, but it doesn't make it true. But I have met someone who use medicinal marijuana to help with the excruciating pain. There is high THC sorts which alter the mind, and the there is CBD which is more anti-inflammatory and doesn't get you high and is safer (THC can trigger seizures in people prone to them). I know someone who CBD is the ONLY thing which relieves their pain. I quit taking my medication when I reverted. I have multiple painful conditions which require percocet at the least (I've refused a morphine pump). I remember being lectured by a local imam because I wasn't using it for fear of the rule of intoxicants. But my pain was such that I was almost bedridden without it so he said that it was 100% necessary for me to function. Remember Allah is merciful and doesn't want us to suffer. If nothing else helps you, then it's not haraam. As long as you don't have niyaah to get high. If your need and niyaah are true... At least that's what people here have told me.
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