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Old 07-27-2008, 08:57 PM   #1
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I am a new member of SF and thought i would introduce myself. I reside in Australia but i'm originally from Turkey. I was just browsing through the old pages SF from last year and came across a few threads about Turkey so i thought knowing Turkey so well i wanted to say a few things. In all honesty i am ashamed of how Turkey is trying to become Westernized and secularist. there are many people who follow their deen, have imaan and most importantly know their roots. Compare what we have now to what we had back in the times of the Ottomans a small piece of land, people who are just so ignorant and agnostic, especially the state of the youth just frustrates me . I am young myself and have a lot of Turkish friends back home who just make me feel like i'm from another planet just because i try to practice my religion (i wear the hijab alhamdolillah). Seriously, and it makes me wonder...these young people are the future of an Islamic country and Allah knows what the once one of the greatest nations in the world's history will be like in a couple of decades.

Wake up Turkiye! Kimligimizi baskalarina satmayalim biz Osmanli cocuguyuz.

May Allah help those who follow Allah (swt) and grant them Jannah and destroy all those who want to lead people of Turkey astray. Ameen

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Old 07-27-2008, 09:02 PM   #2
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I am a new member of SF and thought i would introduce myself. I reside in Australia but i'm originally from Turkey. I was just browsing through the old pages SF from last year and came across a few threads about Turkey so i thought knowing Turkey so well i wanted to say a few things. In all honesty i am ashamed of how Turkey is trying to become Westernized and secularist. there are many people who follow their deen, have imaan and most importantly know their roots. Compare what we have now to what we had back in the times of the Ottomans a small piece of land, people who are just so ignorant and agnostic, especially the state of the youth just frustrates me . I am young myself and have a lot of Turkish friends back home who just make me feel like i'm from another planet just because i try to practice my religion (i wear the hijab alhamdolillah). Seriously, and it makes me wonder...these young people are the future of an Islamic country and Allah knows what the once one of the greatest nations in the world's history will be like in a couple of decades.

Wake up Turkiye! Kimligimizi baskalarina satmayalim biz Osmanli cocuguyuz.

May Allah help those who follow Allah (swt) and grant them Jannah and destroy all those who want to lead people of Turkey astray. Ameen

May Allah guide all the muslim countries to true understanding of Islam and may Allah unite all the muslim's.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:06 PM   #3
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I am a new member of SF and thought i would introduce myself. I reside in Australia but i'm originally from Turkey. I was just browsing through the old pages SF from last year and came across a few threads about Turkey so i thought knowing Turkey so well i wanted to say a few things. In all honesty i am ashamed of how Turkey is trying to become Westernized and secularist. there are many people who follow their deen, have imaan and most importantly know their roots. Compare what we have now to what we had back in the times of the Ottomans a small piece of land, people who are just so ignorant and agnostic, especially the state of the youth just frustrates me . I am young myself and have a lot of Turkish friends back home who just make me feel like i'm from another planet just because i try to practice my religion (i wear the hijab alhamdolillah). Seriously, and it makes me wonder...these young people are the future of an Islamic country and Allah knows what the once one of the greatest nations in the world's history will be like in a couple of decades.

Wake up Turkiye! Kimligimizi baskalarina satmayalim biz Osmanli cocuguyuz.

May Allah help those who follow Allah (swt) and grant them Jannah and destroy all those who want to lead people of Turkey astray. Ameen

When I read the beautiful history of the Turkish empire, and how they helped in spreading Islam, and how it all came to end with Mustafa Kemel, it really brought tears to my eyes... The state of ignorance which the majority of Turkey is in, is really sad.
May Allah guide us all. Ameen.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:12 PM   #4
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Many of the youth have left Islam completely. They openly mock Islam and I find it sick just watching them carrying on. Islam in Turkey is alive outside the cities like Istanbul but within Istanbul itself.....la huw la walla kuwwata illa billahil allyil adheeeem.

Just watching the march last year where thousands of red flags came out shouting for secularism and openly opposing Shariah law in Turkey was so sad to see. Those people are doomed. If they are not kafirs then I don't know who is.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:13 PM   #5
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I remember something one turkish shaykh said. He said that the turks future lies with the west and the west's future lies with islam... Seems like its going that way.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:15 PM   #6
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Such a shame to see where Turkey is currently considering its past.
One thing i dont understand is, how does the islamic party do so well despite the strong secularism/nationalism in the country.
Ameen to ur duas.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:16 PM   #7
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As salamu aleykum
How sad I am from England, so we are a Western country.. but when I read about Turkey's history and how it helped to spread the word of Islam, I became very sad. It should keep it's culture and should not be changing.

I will remember you and your country in my dua'as, good luck

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Old 07-27-2008, 09:17 PM   #8
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I remember something one turkish shaykh said. He said that the turks future lies with the west and the west's future lies with islam... Seems like its going that way.
That's true and the west will embrace Islam, that's a fact inshallah. However, Turkey's future is in the wilderness and always will be as that's their punishment from Allah. They still haven't been accepted into the EU and never will no matter how much they sacrifice their Deen.
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:02 PM   #9
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وعليكم السلام ورحمة اللهCheck this out:
http://m-kemal.blogspot.com/2000/01/oppression.html
والسلام
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:47 PM   #10
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Such a shame to see where Turkey is currently considering its past.
One thing i dont understand is, how does the islamic party do so well despite the strong secularism/nationalism in the country.
Ameen to ur duas.


While secularism is strong amongst the elite and many of the professionals, the public still have the strong love and desire for Islam in their hearts.
Tabligh is also spreading like wildfire in the country, which aids in creating a thirsts for Islam, thus the wide support for the Islamic party.

While, in Istanbul, the great Sufi, Mahmud Efendi has worked wonders and has a huge following. Istanbul is the furthest a city could be from Islamic, yet when one steps into his area in Fatih, one feels like one is in Madinah!

May Allah Ta'ala revive Islam in that country, to its past glory.
Amin
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:55 PM   #11
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May Allah spread Tableegh through Istanbul. Ameen.
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:56 PM   #12
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I went in Istanbul last summer, and it had been one of the best periods of my life.

Maybe for the fact that it had been my first time in a muslim country, but I felt that the situation of Islam is not so bad like it's painted here .

Let's think about: for about 80 years, Islam had a very difficult period in Turkey: the secularists arrived to shut up the religious freedom and religious associations, forbade traditional muslim hats (fez) and the hijab, close all turuq, and so on..

Nonetheless, Turkey is one of the very few country in the world where a party of "islamic" tendency rules, and it's democratically elected.

If secularism is wordly widespread, and in about every corner of our Ummah we can see youngsters who weight american way of life (in Holliwood, Bolliwood, Gangsta-Rap fashion or what other) more than Shari`ah, Turkey isn't an exception, but nonotheless there are many practising brother whose kind of religiosity and manners aren't contaminated by post-modern salafism.

In some areas you can see without problem men with fistful beards and kurtas, and women with Niqab, also in the very centre of the city (like near Fatih mosque, near Sultanahmet, centre of tourism but also with majority of votes gone to "islamic" parties like Saadet Partisi and AK-Partisi).
I have my doubts about the possibility of doing the same in countries like Tunisia, where many muhajabaat experiment police's tortures and whoever goes to pray Fajr in the mosque is asked about, when not brought in police centers, not to talk about full beard or niqab..

My point: I think that there is too much attention towards what media tells about Turkey (like the mediatically-pumped story about the "reinterpretation of ahadith"), and not enough to what really happens there.

And God indeed knows best.

Amin to sister's du`a'!

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Old 07-27-2008, 10:57 PM   #13
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May Allah spread Tableegh through Istanbul. Ameen.


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If someone is planning something for Istanbul, let me know, I'm ready for khuruj there!!!
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:58 PM   #14
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Will find out Inshallah
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:02 PM   #15
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While secularism is strong amongst the elite and many of the professionals, the public still have the strong love and desire for Islam in their hearts.
Tabligh is also spreading like wildfire in the country, which aids in creating a thirsts for Islam, thus the wide support for the Islamic party.

While, in Istanbul, the great Sufi, Mahmud Efendi has worked wonders and has a huge following. Istanbul is the furthest a city could be from Islamic, yet when one steps into his area in Fatih, one feels like one is in Madinah!

May Allah Ta'ala revive Islam in that country, to its past glory.
Amin


That's what I had in mind writing my post upthere, and the same that I felt walking through Fatih..
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:53 AM   #16
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May Allah spread Tableegh through Istanbul. Ameen.


When I visited Raiwind in 2003, I met a jamat there from Turkey. MashAllah, very nice and humble brothers with alot of concern for the Deen.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:31 AM   #17
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Last month a Jamaat from our area returned from Turkey, there report was much along the lines of the posts above...

They added that Tabligh is becoming more and more wide spread in Turkey, though most musjids dont allow work to take place in the musjid on day one, after a day or two they had the imaam coming to them and spending time with them and also allowing them to make effort in the areas...

When the see sunnat libaas (the jamaat said) the old people come running to them with tears in their eyes
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:48 AM   #18
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So encouraging to hear these words about Turkey. May Allah bless the defenders of the faith in that country and may He return that country to true Islam.

Shaykh Nuruddin - an Imam in Jamia Masjid Whitby near Toronto - is also on a 40 day Jamat trip to Turkey nowadays Alhamdulillah.

Can anyone shed more light on Shaykh Mahmud Efendi (Hafizahullah) and his efforts in Fatih? Is this the respected Maulana in the following video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2eaGaFX5SnU&feature=related

Wassalam
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:41 AM   #19
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See here:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20790
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:51 AM   #20
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So encouraging to hear these words about Turkey. May Allah bless the defenders of the faith in that country and may He return that country to true Islam.

Shaykh Nuruddin - an Imam in Jamia Masjid Whitby near Toronto - is also on a 40 day Jamat trip to Turkey nowadays Alhamdulillah.

Can anyone shed more light on Shaykh Mahmud Efendi (Hafizahullah) and his efforts in Fatih? Is this the respected Maulana in the following video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2eaGaFX5SnU&feature=related

Wassalam
When he met Shaykh Yusuf Motala in the Haram of Madinah a few years ago he came over and kissed him on the forehead. Shaykh Yusuf did the same also.
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